Raising the US debt ceiling

[bush_cheney2004]

The U.S. will have to raise the debt ceiling to pay for current obligations; the question then might be are they going to actually be able to do the actual borrowing, or will money have to be created magically and risk fueling inflation if U.S. bond holders start selling out.

The US will be able to sell bonds for a very long time, a lowered debt rating just means it will cost more. The rating(s) will not go as low as Canada's did in the 1990's, which also was able to continue financing debt.

[punked]

That's all I'm saying....Germany obviously is not and certainly has not been an economic or political utopia, and holding it out as a great example is problematic. A "Golden Decade" only lasts ten years.

No we agree there is no "model" country. I also think every country needs to do what is best for them, and maybe paying no taxes is great for the USA. Time will tell.

[bush_cheney2004]

No we agree there is no "model" country. I also think every country needs to do what is best for them, and maybe paying no taxes is great for the USA. Time will tell.

The US presently pays less taxes, not "no taxes", and based on its position in the world, it certainly has yielded many benefits. Historically, the Americans have paid for many things domestic and international as well from wars to Marshall plans.

[WIP]

Doesn't matter...you will still go American more than not. Your world is dominated by Americana at many different levels by your own pathetic admission, and that does not apply to everyone else. No wonder you hate the place while being so dependent on it by your own choice.

It will be even a more important issue a few decades from now, when millions of Americans start 'hating' their country and move north and claim ours!

[bush_cheney2004]

It will be even a more important issue a few decades from now, when millions of Americans start 'hating' their country and move north and claim ours!

Mexicans already do this...they prefer the US over Canada (for now). 25,000 Canadian emigres to America each year says they agree with the Mexicans.

[Guest American Woman]

It will be even a more important issue a few decades from now, when millions of Americans start 'hating' their country and move north and claim ours!

Somehow I don't see that happening, but in the event that it does, how about we trade for all the Canadians who would prefer to be Americans? We'll call it a wash.

[Oleg Bach]

Somehow I don't see that happening, but in the event that it does, how about we trade for all the Canadians who would prefer to be Americans? We'll call it a wash.

Not wanting to sound like a bigot - but in America - you have millions of poor white trash - and millions of super stupid black people who have become accustomed to living like rats - If - these people moved to Canada - they would reck the Canadian national household, because they are not house broken.

[bush_cheney2004]

Not wanting to sound like a bigot - but in America - you have millions of poor white trash - and millions of super stupid black people who have become accustomed to living like rats - If - these people moved to Canada - they would reck the Canadian national household, because they are not house broken.

No, there is plenty of "poor white trash" in Canada. The wealthy Canadians move to America to escape high taxes!

[Oleg Bach]

No, there is plenty of "poor white trash" in Canada. The wealthy Canadians move to America to escape high taxes!

Hey - white working rural trash is part of our culture - just north of Tononto - all of Ontario is populated by white working rural trash - they are my adopted tribe...so how is it going BC? _ I just can't seem to get around to washing my kitchen floor...any suggestions - Presentation is everything - even poor trash like me with not two cents to rub together can pass himself off as middle class or more....so it's not about money....oh - back to the floor...wish I had servants...I am great at delegating.

[Oleg Bach]

Hey - white working rural trash is part of our culture - just north of Tononto - all of Ontario is populated by white working rural trash - they are my adopted tribe...so how is it going BC? _ I just can't seem to get around to washing my kitchen floor...any suggestions - Presentation is everything - even poor trash like me with not two cents to rub together can pass himself off as middle class or more....so it's not about money....oh - back to the floor...wish I had servants...I am great at delegating.

Your black correct? I have an underground rail road - I really do....come on up!

[bush_cheney2004]

Your black correct? I have an underground rail road - I really do....come on up!

Yea, but my kitchen floor is already clean. Try a good laminate...they don't hold dirt.

[Oleg Bach]

BC ! I am your friend...lets talk - Been talking to the mutts all day - and am getting kind of used to them ---Max thinks he is my very best friend...forget the black humour....It's not your fault that you would rather change a water pump on the car than balance the books of a nation -see what happens when you let those inferiour lazy rich fat white guys rule the roost - they wrecked America - it just took them a while.

[Oleg Bach]

Yea, but my kitchen floor is already clean. Try a good laminate...they don't hold dirt.

Coffee is on....feel a little hopeless up here - It's been a long struggle to keep Canada civlized and I think I am losing...a man can only do so much....I live on old Queen street in two bedroom apartment - there is street car traffic and car traffic - and the black soot gets in - you have to clean the place every couple of days or your socks go black --------yah - i wear white socks...cos my estranged wife still dressses me - but she won't come over and clean anymore - I am so miserable - should have held money in higher esteem..but nooo - I was idealistic - and as grandma use to call me "a playboy"

[bush_cheney2004]

...It's not your fault that you would rather change a water pump on the car than balance the books of a nation -see what happens when you let those inferiour lazy rich fat white guys rule the roost - they wrecked America - it just took them a while.

That's OK by me...America is the sum of good and bad...and that's all good:

Big politician telling lies

Restaurant kitchen, all full of flies

Don't make a bit of difference, don't see why it should

But it's all right, 'cause it's all good

It's all good

It's all good

- Bob Dylan

[Oleg Bach]

That's OK by me...America is the sum of good and bad...and that's all good:

Big politician telling lies

Restaurant kitchen, all full of flies

Don't make a bit of difference, don't see why it should

But it's all right, 'cause it's all good

It's all good

It's all good

- Bob Dylan

Dylan for an amphetimine pooping Jewish guy converted to Christianity who had kids that looked like fat rabbis is not a person I take serously....besides the "vandals took the handles" - is exactly what happen in American finacial circles - common vandalism through breach of feduciary duty....It's not all good- and money is not bianary either...they messed the place up...Amreica is the sum of all it's goodness - the rest is not America - it is the good that keep it alive- cos' good people out number the bad...thank god.

[Oleg Bach]

All those naive hippy types who used to hang out in Yorkville - Torontos former Haight Ashbury - all live in the beaches in homes that are a couple of million bucks...so don't quote pop saviour sayings out of the 60s and 70s - These spoiled leftist idealists became the status quo.

[bush_cheney2004]

.It's not all good- and money is not bianary either...they messed the place up...Amreica is the sum of all it's goodness - the rest is not America - it is the good that keep it alive- cos' good people out number the bad...thank god.

No...like most old men (and women), Dylan has figured it out right before dying. Natives will tell you the same thing. So will the Chinese...as yin yang. Don't fight it...resistance is futile.

[bush_cheney2004]

All those naive hippy types who used to hang out in Yorkville - Torontos former Haight Ashbury - all live in the beaches in homes that are a couple of million bucks...so don't quote pop saviour sayings out of the 60s and 70s - These spoiled leftist idealists became the status quo.

Hey, I've been telling you guys for years that John Lennon was laughable telling us to Imagine from the back seat of a Rolls Royce Phantom V in Montreal.

[Oleg Bach]

Hey, I've been telling you guys for years that John Lennon was laughable telling us to Imagine from the back seat of a Rolls Royce Phantom V in Montreal.

He would sing that commie tune ---cry about how his daddy left him - and how he desperately needs a woman that is a mother...all the while he would send a few bucks on the sly to the IRA - As for the Beatles in general it was George Martin to revitalized the English Music Hall tradtion via the Beatles - All the jerks who would blow a dube and lean back believing that the Beatles had the answer to life were common dupes - Listening to the stuff now - 90% was overly produced jibberish....as for George Harrison and his spiritual quest - I often wonder why Christianity was not good enough for him - and it was not surprising when someone broke into his house and gave him a poke with an edged weapon...that whole era was actually a great diservice to society at large.

Besides - imagine all the greats who had real tunes at Motown - who never got heard because they were swarmed out of the buisness - the Beatles and George the aristocrat Martin duped the world and harmed good and real music.

[bush_cheney2004]

...Besides - imagine all the greats who had real tunes at Motown - who never got heard because they were swarmed out of the buisness - the Beatles and George the aristocrat Martin duped the world and harmed good and real music.

Motown? No way...I'm a Stax guy!

[Oleg Bach]

Motown? No way...I'm a Stax guy!

You are old _ I met some of the old record executives from that era..when I worked as a lighting standin for the band - during Blues Brothers 2000 - what an experience - Dan Akaroid shipped all the forgotten greats up for a few weaks - I had lunch with them all - most were poor - but the record guys who owned the labels did well - It was my birthday - I was sitting at the key board as they were setting up - I looked around and there they were - a dozen of the greatest players - BB king was in the corner...and Clapton to the left....what a privledge - some of the absure black rythm players were there.....soooooo cooool....again - what a privledge to get to know them...I would say it was the tail end of my lark in the movie buisness...and it ended on a high note...

[Oleg Bach]

Oh I was going to mention - what was it like hanging out with your dad?

[bush_cheney2004]

Oh I was going to mention - what was it like hanging out with your dad?

Great as long as you were into sleazy managers, strippers, whores, drug addicts, loan sharks, and tax evasion. Musical instruments were not my cup of tea...I preferred programmable calculators and microprocessors. I never saw a slide rule at a pawn shop.

[Scotty]

Check Germany's historical unemployment rates and GDP per-capita, which presently trails both the US and Canada. BMW now has plants in US right-to-work states.

By 'historical data' you mean, of course, the period since reunification. I wonder what would have happened to the U.S. economy in 1990 if it had absorbed a country with a population of fifty million people whose industries and infrastructure were two generations behind the rest of the country, and whose people were not trained in modern, technical employment skills.

Prior to that the Germans had to institute a guest worker program because they had such high employment they didn't have enough people to supply their voracious industrial machine.

[Oleg Bach]

Great as long as you were into sleazy managers, strippers, whores, drug addicts, loan sharks, and tax evasion. Musical instruments were not my cup of tea...I preferred programmable calculators and microprocessors. I never saw a slide rule at a pawn shop.

Lucky you...pops gave you a real edcuation. Funny how a guy like your dad assisted in the creation of a person like you...then again - Music is math..the slide rule pawn shop comment is up to snuff...You never fail with the clever quips---one of my daughters called and asked "Hey dad wanna be a normal regular guy and go to the movies with me?" Just to lazy to step out the door - but - I should ----------sounds like your dad was a bit of a hard case - I was not as notorious as he - but close..

Only thing that kept me above water was in the fact that my father was a Captain - and he did give me a sense of military order...how he is a very interesting story...I was 18 when he passed - He was tough - but he sure did love me - and I miss him to this day ----------nice of you to share a hint of your personal past...always enjoyed our communication....I would safely say - I am so pleased when you give me some time...thanks - and now I am going to the sub-channel called my life...cheers BC...say hello - and send my love to all --------------movies? awh...be a regular guy...why not?