If Canada had a new federal party called the Centrist Party of Canada

[ToadBrother]

Hey Toadbrother long time no see. Anyways, I heard Sir John A. was a drunk but to go past his bad side I think we ought to think about the actual party which wanted to build a society that was fair and just for all.

Look up the Pacific Scandal. Ol' Sir John A. was no paragon of virtue.

[myata]

There's already two "centrist" parties one couldn't tell apart under an electronic microscope. Yeah, we need one more. As an alternative to adeqate representation of all parties and meaningful representation.

[ccen]

We want to be strong like the Greens on democracy so not everything is taken from the two parties. We want a moderate environment program like a cap and trade system and putting a price on carbon. Even the Tory Party in Britain is going down that road and we think our party has to be modeled after theirs.

In terms of poverty we are similar to the Liberals in that action must be taken and must be done with respect to the deficit. I looked at Joe Clark's 2000 proposals when he was running to be prime minister. I understand what it means to be a compassionate conservative and understanding that you can mix tax cuts to stimulate growth with protecting the manufacturing sector and making sure that social programs are protected. The PCs made it work and we think we could do the same. We understand the Greens have proposed similar programs but the thing is not everything has to be between the two parties. On the democracy thing we wanted to have prop rep for the House and Senate. We also want to have a policy of middle grounds and compromise. We want to ensure voter intention goes up so it is outside the norm of where the two parties stand.

On law and order and the military we are close to the conservatives but on health and education we think all parties want to see action on it and we want to protect those programs and ensure they never get touched. Therefore we have taken centrist positions on all these issues which I have stated so we can make it work.

Thank you and I look forward to comments about what I wrote. I look forward to it.

[ToadBrother]

We want to be strong like the Greens on democracy so not everything is taken from the two parties. We want a moderate environment program like a cap and trade system and putting a price on carbon. Even the Tory Party in Britain is going down that road and we think our party has to be modeled after theirs.

In terms of poverty we are similar to the Liberals in that action must be taken and must be done with respect to the deficit. I looked at Joe Clark's 2000 proposals when he was running to be prime minister. I understand what it means to be a compassionate conservative and understanding that you can mix tax cuts to stimulate growth with protecting the manufacturing sector and making sure that social programs are protected. The PCs made it work and we think we could do the same. We understand the Greens have proposed similar programs but the thing is not everything has to be between the two parties. On the democracy thing we wanted to have prop rep for the House and Senate. We also want to have a policy of middle grounds and compromise. We want to ensure voter intention goes up so it is outside the norm of where the two parties stand.

On law and order and the military we are close to the conservatives but on health and education we think all parties want to see action on it and we want to protect those programs and ensure they never get touched. Therefore we have taken centrist positions on all these issues which I have stated so we can make it work.

Thank you and I look forward to comments about what I wrote. I look forward to it.

Why not just call yourselves the Coniberals or the Libservatives?

I applaud your desire to get into the game, but I can't help but think your a touch naive.

Edited February 18, 2011 by ToadBrother

[ccen]

Why not just call yourselves the Coniberals or the Libservatives?

I applaud your desire to get into the game, but I can't help but think your a touch naive.

Well I have friends now in the party who want a new alternatives and they are from Newfoundland and Nova Scotia and the target is always to have at least one seat and concentrate on the areas where we have the best growth potentials. The party just wants to follow the old PC party so if you have questions about why create the party I was once with the PC party and they are so weak now it may fizzle out and the United Party is now following the path of being a centrist party so they are another liberal party. Compromising the two and meeting in the centre with a new party is the right strategy. If you don't propose a party that is compassionate conservative like the old PC party you are wasting time that is what I figure and what people in the party want.

Edited February 18, 2011 by ccen

[Saipan]

We want to be strong like the Greens on democracy

Party who will never be in driver's seat can promise anything, including the blue from the sky. They never have to deliver.

Even Jack Layton knows it.

[ccen]

anyone want to know what we stand for well email me at [email protected] and get

in touch our pdf file containing all party info about where we stand is almost done.

I look forward to it so people can stop asking questions about where we stand as a party and we can just provide

what is necessary on each of the issues. Remember so it is next week when the pdf document should be done for the party but

it cannot be posted on the site since it does not contain the aspects necessary to download files onto it. i would know i am an expert

html/xhtml programmer. The site of the party is http://www.centristparty.piczo.com/?cr=5

Thank you!

[ccen]

Anyone here remember Joe Clark

yes his type of conservatism is what we are after. If you want proof there is no ideology in Canada that has liberal conservatism.

Research Centrist Democrat International and you will see the countries and notice Canada has no international organization

with that name representing any of the parties. We are seeking the middle ground and notice the ideological trend of all the

parties and the direction we are headed by following them.

Check out wikipedia on "Centrist Democrat International", this other term "liberal conservatism", "one nation conservatism", "

neoliberalism", "centrism", "right-centrism", "social conservatism", "traditionalist conservatism",

"communitarianism", "conservative liberalism" and "social progressivism".

I would like you to check out all the ideologies on wikipedia since that is the direction we are going to go down

in terms of a party. We are between the two parties economically, we are closer to the liberals on social policy, we are close

to the greens on democracy, all parties are essentially equal on health and education, we are close to the liberals on poverty,

we are close to the conservatives on law and order and socially conservative issues, we are balanced on foreign policy and we

want a moderate environmental policy so we really copy no one there and we make sure constituents are heard and given a true

voice on issues where there are free votes and private member's bills. Lastly, if you check out the Centrist Democrat

International page on wikipedia the party's ideologies will be remarkably close to that of the French and British conservative

parties but a bit more communitarian. Thank you for your time.

[Wild Bill]

Anyone here remember Joe Clark

yes his type of conservatism is what we are after. If you want proof there is no ideology in Canada that has liberal conservatism.

Thank you for finally making things clear. Joe Clark's brand of conservativism is specifically NOT for me but I wish you well!

[ccen]

I want to use this message to inform those who think my party could create a better moderate conservative option for Canadians one that is compassionate conservative and wants to govern in the tradition of the old Progressive Conservative party I would encourage those who like thoughtful discussion to comment about what I wrote.

Also, since me and the members of the party have completed a document outlining where we stand on all the issues those who are interested may ask for one and I will send you a copy just make sure you reach me at [email protected] or you may comment on this thread if you wish to ask for one here.

Also you can read also similar information like what is shown in the pdf document we created about where the party stands on all the issues at this site: http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5 Thank you and I look forward to a thoughtful reply.

I have gotten some comments about what I wrote about Christian Democracy being a possibly of this party I hope to create and the party centering around communitarianism like many centrist European parties and I feel we could go down that road since we want to provide a niche for people seeking a party between the two major parties. We want a party centered around social progressive and fiscally conservative values and a party which uses small businness tax cuts as its main mean to create jobs and we are also for protecting the manufacturing sector like Christian Democratic parties so it could work.

Anyways, to read about the party again check out http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5 or email me at [email protected] if you wish to receive a copy of where we stand on all the issues.

Thank you and I hope to get a reply from you soon.

Edited February 24, 2011 by ccen

[ccen]

Conservatives were elected in 2006 to clean up corruption and Canadians are about to find out Conservatives are no different from Liberals we need a party committed to essential programs like health care and education always being protected, making sure foreign policy and law and order are balanced and this party between the two parties would want to ensure that the economy is closer to being balanced which means tax cuts are targeted and studied to show what the affects really are and we need a manufacturing sector which is invested in and helps as a buffer for the middle class. We also need to have a balanced environmental program which does not get its ideas from Washington but is studied and works to lower carbon emissions.

That is how you build a strong moderate conservative party one that is for balancing fiscal responsibility, taxes and social progress. This is also a way to ensure we get a hold on our debt and deficit.

Check out our issues page to find out where we stand: http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5 or email us which is on the main page: http://centristparty.piczo.com/?g=1&cr=5 at the bottom of the page if you want the document about the party.

Edited February 25, 2011 by ccen

[ccen]

The recent attack ads from all the parties show that parties are just jockeying for position but to tell you the truth vague sloganeering is something Canadians are getting used to with the dumbing down of parliament. I feel attack ads must be banned, all information must be disclosed on costs, MP and senator expenses, and all projects on the economy and every issue must be laid out for the Canadian people to see online and when they come out they must be posted in all newspapers. It may be bad for the government of the day but we need to have efficient government which works for all Canadians and a moderate conservative party between the two parties can achieve that by having all parties work together and find out ways to protect the most vulnerable and poor and health and education programs and have guarantees to ensure those programs get protected and make sure we have a balanced budget and a debt and deficit that are taken care of while making sure our economy remains strong. We just need to ensure that our priorities are taken care of and the waste in government is taken care of. Some areas we in the Centrist Party of Canada can be to freeze salaries permanently on MPs, senators. We can make sure expenses are posted and MPs and senators spend their money on important things which can be debated and photo ops and other useless expenses can be gotten rid of permanently.

As a party we would also ensure that we work on important issues such as law and order and make sure all parties sit to resolve this crucial issue which should not be partisan since it affects us all and I feel this is one where we need to have true balance to protect our streets and to rehabilitate citizens. Also we need to reform the Senate and the House of Commons to reflect and improve the standings for smaller parties and we need to have a prop rep system for the house and senate based on how much the percentage is for each party in the House of Commons. This means if a party receives 36% of the vote they will receive 36% of the seats and must form coalitions with other parties to hold government and there will need to be a middle grounds and compromise council to ensure all parties in the coalition get the middle ground on each issue. No party can declare confidence motions or omnibus bills on any issue and all issues must be done in good faith and middle grounds and compromise must become the new normal.

Also, the Senate will be done the same way which means if a party does not get a full majority they must form coalitions with the other parties and achieve middle grounds and compromises on the issues of the day just like the House of Commons. We felt this is a good approach since we can show Canadians parties working together in the best interest of Canadians and we feel by doing this more Canadians will come out and vote. We must be positive and genuine when working for Canadians. We are also sure that a moderate conservative option would be way more successful than the options we have now since we are positive and we feel Canadians are genuinely good and seek to differentiate ourselves from our neighbors to the south.

Lastly, to see when we stand as a party you may check out our issues page for additional information. The site is located here: http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5 or if you want the pdf document showing the issues you may send it to [email protected] to find out more about the party or if you have questions about the party.

Thank you and I look forward to your replies.

[ccen]

i am raising awareness of a new political party between the liberals and conservatives at the federal level. we would be a moderate conservative party that would try to gain a lot of support from the two major parties.

our address to view where we stand on the issues is: http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5 and our main site is: http://centristparty.piczo.com/?g=1

If you have any more information you may contact us at [email protected] or if you know anyone you may let them know all this information. Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you soon.

Also to view our facebook page it is http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=34708647457 so you may join if you wish.

Thank you and I look forward to your comments.

Edited March 6, 2011 by ccen

[ccen]

The only way to fix our political system is to have a party of the radical centre which can take from both sides and is centre-right on certain issues and centre-left on others and is for restoring democracy and is centrist on social and economic issues therefore it is pragmatic on everything and does not have a firm platform on issues but instead does what is right. Therefore they are a new party for the 21st century. That is something which can break the deadlock between just Liberals and Conservatives and can create a new alternative.

Check out Centrist Party on facebook. The site is http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&tid=1445261230637#!/group.php?gid=34708647457 or the issues page on the main site is: http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5

[Wild Bill]

The only way to fix our political system is to have a party of the radical centre which can take from both sides and is centre-right on certain issues and centre-left on others and is for restoring democracy and is centrist on social and economic issues therefore it is pragmatic on everything and does not have a firm platform on issues but instead does what is right. Therefore they are a new party for the 21st century. That is something which can break the deadlock between just Liberals and Conservatives and can create a new alternative.

Check out Centrist Party on facebook. The site is http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&tid=1445261230637#!/group.php?gid=34708647457 or the issues page on the main site is: http://centristparty.piczo.com/issues?cr=5

Why do you keep repeatedly posting what amounts to the exact same post, a post which is really just blatant advertising for your new party?

This is a discussion board, not a free advertising venue for your party! If you want advertising, do what every other party does and PAY for it!

Here, if you want people to answer your posts just give them something interesting to discuss, not four consecutive posts exactly the same, saying that your new party will be all things to all people and please come to your websites!

When people don't answer your posts it's because they're BORING! Repeating them will not help!