Michael Hardner Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Toronto Star The Canadian PressOTTAWA—A new study ranks Canada dead last in an international comparison of freedom-of-information laws — a hard fall after many years being judged a global model in openness. The study by a pair of British academics looked at the effectiveness of freedom-of-information laws in five parliamentary democracies: Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, the United Kingdom and Canada. New Zealand placed first and Canada last. The fact that this is getting play is important to me: it provides some kind of confirmation of my impression that Canada is lagging behind the UK government (who are actually doing something on Open Government initiatives) and US government (who are talking seriously about it). We should be talking about our lack of interest in monitoring the government, in my opinion. It's a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Related: Hill Times calls for more open government. Will 2011 be the year ? Hill Times It's time for a more open government and an 'opendata.gc.ca'Making as much government data available to the public as possible through a searchable online free of charge site at 'opendata.gc.ca' seems to be the current hip flavour for making transparent government happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think most Canadian wouldn't be surprised by this, after all, the Tories cut the long census to curb information from being collected and they have tried several times to stop information from getting out.Give the Tories the majority Harper would probably make a law against TV news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think most Canadian wouldn't be surprised by this, after all, the Tories cut the long census to curb information from being collected and they have tried several times to stop information from getting out.Give the Tories the majority Harper would probably make a law against TV news. Cough, cough, cough... ahem.... This is one issues in which the Liberals and Conservatives are in agreement - keep the data under the covers. See Dalton McGuinty if you're not convinced... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think most Canadians don't really care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think most Canadians don't really care. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 We should be talking about our lack of interest in monitoring the government, in my opinion. It's a shame. Say what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Say what? What say ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Whenever the government talks about being more open, you can bet on them doing the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 What say ? What say indeed, I guess I didn't think you were that interested in deep transparency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 What say indeed, I guess I didn't think you were that interested in deep transparency. I am... but it's all relative. I don't want to chain video cameras to people, but I want all departments to publish on the web: 1. What they do 2. How well they do it 3. What they cost Does that sound like too much to ask ? Then why does the Canadian Institute for Health Info NOT publish national ER waiting time statistics ? They have the data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I am... but it's all relative. I don't want to chain video cameras to people, but I want all departments to publish on the web: 1. What they do 2. How well they do it 3. What they cost Does that sound like too much to ask ? Then why does the Canadian Institute for Health Info NOT publish national ER waiting time statistics ? They have the data. They obviously have something they want to hide. Try chaining a few cameras to the people at or near the top. I bet you'd have your answer in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 They obviously have something they want to hide. Try chaining a few cameras to the people at or near the top. I bet you'd have your answer in no time. My solution is so very much easier, and yet already very difficult to implement. That makes your camera idea pretty much impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 I am... but it's all relative. I don't want to chain video cameras to people, but I want all departments to publish on the web: 1. What they do 2. How well they do it 3. What they cost Does that sound like too much to ask ? Ah, and here I thought you were talking about Freedom of Information Laws, but instead you are looking for post everything on the web laws. Priorities, priorities. They have to make their platform accessible first. Jodhan v. Canada (Attorney General) Not to mention updating the teleconnunications infrastructure. However, most of what you seek is available on the web already is it not? Departmental mandates, reports, budgets from Treasury Board, etc. Other than web based information, is there anything else you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Ah, and here I thought you were talking about Freedom of Information Laws, but instead you are looking for post everything on the web laws. Priorities, priorities. They have to make their platform accessible first. Jodhan v. Canada (Attorney General) Not to mention updating the teleconnunications infrastructure. However, most of what you seek is available on the web already is it not? Departmental mandates, reports, budgets from Treasury Board, etc. Other than web based information, is there anything else you need? Yes, I need performance data, including budgetary data. They are indeed related as Canada is generally satisfied with poor government responsiveness. Some things are on the web, but Canada lags behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Yes, I need performance data, including budgetary data. They are indeed related as Canada is generally satisfied with poor government responsiveness. Some things are on the web, but Canada lags behind. Well, they lag behind in accessibility as well, not to mention infrastructure. However, what you may determine as performance data, others - bureaucrats - might not. Here's the thing though, the information you are looking for - I believe - is already on the web if you want to go get it. Is there something in particular that isn't on the web that you have searched for, but couldn't locate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well, they lag behind in accessibility as well, not to mention infrastructure. However, what you may determine as performance data, others - bureaucrats - might not. Here's the thing though, the information you are looking for - I believe - is already on the web if you want to go get it. Is there something in particular that isn't on the web that you have searched for, but couldn't locate? National ER stats come to mind... There are definitely other examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 National ER stats come to mind... There are definitely other examples. National ER stats meaning what? How many people are Early Risers? In other news, priorities: Blind woman's website victory to be appealed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Emergency Room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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