Who says there's no Left-Wing conspiracy?

[Argus]

I've heard that mocking phrase a lot here over the last some years. It's usually used to imply that the OP is inferring some sort of conspiracy, when in fact, they're usually talking more about a similar mindset. But maybe there actually IS a left wing conspiracy far larger - not to mention better funded - than anything the Right might boast.

Even if much of its money is coming in from the U.S., which the Lefties love to hate.

A Charity with Plenty of Tentacles

[Michael Hardner]

It's rather a long article. I gleaned it, but didn't see much that was different from PACs and lobby groups that influence government.

And with the language of the article, it seems like a mirror-image to the posts we see on here from time to time about the Bilderberg group, New World Order, or other vague conspiracies that are supposed to exist.

[Argus]

It's rather a long article. I gleaned it, but didn't see much that was different from PACs and lobby groups that influence government.

And with the language of the article, it seems like a mirror-image to the posts we see on here from time to time about the Bilderberg group, New World Order, or other vague conspiracies that are supposed to exist.

Maybe instead of "gleaning" it you should read it. The posts about Bilderberg are all inference, without any fact behind them. How much money is Bilderberg distributing in order to change society? How often do lobby groups arrange for their people to take over city hall in order to carry out their programs? How many lobby groups, for that matter, exist for the purpose of social engineering? Here is a group which explicitly says its purpose is to change society, and is funneling millions of dollars a year into various interconnected groups in order to accomplish that. If this group was conservative the Lefties here would be going crazy demanding investigations and bannings.

[Evening Star]

Sounds good to me...

[waldo]

so... not George Soros then - hey?

[Michael Hardner]

Maybe instead of "gleaning" it you should read it. The posts about Bilderberg are all inference, without any fact behind them. How much money is Bilderberg distributing in order to change society?

On the contrary, they're very similar. Bilderberg includes powerful individuals who change society every day, and not through democratic means but through their power.

Now... please note that I'm not complaining about this. Power is negotiated and worked out through dialogue, and one of the modes is democratic government. It's hard to call it a conspiracy, though, when everybody knows about it.

How often do lobby groups arrange for their people to take over city hall in order to carry out their programs? How many lobby groups, for that matter, exist for the purpose of social engineering?

or to lobby the government to lower safety standards, to erect trade barriers, to get more government subsidies for their industry ?

ere is a group which explicitly says its purpose is to change society, and is funneling millions of dollars a year into various interconnected groups in order to accomplish that. If this group was conservative the Lefties here would be going crazy demanding investigations and bannings.

They're liberal, though, so you're here complaining about them.

When the fringe element complains about conspiracies, left- or right-, there are a number of left- or right- centrists here who call them out on it.

[waldo]

so... not Maurice Strong then - hey?

[Topaz]

I believe it has nothing to do with being a left-wing or a right, its about POWER. The powers that be, say Bilderberg, the thinking is to open up trade globally, contol all countries through their economics. That's why we are seeing more FREE Trading going on. The Tories themselves have 8 Free trades and is still working on more.To make this global trading continue, in North America, they are building the SUPER highways from Churchill to Mexico. That's why the Feds want to new bridge at Windsor On done. The one area in the world that the POWERS that be are having trouble with is the MIDDLE-EAST. The need the control over it and you'll see military presence there for a long while and we will have wars in that area and I can understand the people of the Middle-East for fighting back. So don't look at politcs with left or right wing eyes, look at it with an open mind.

[Saipan]

The one area in the world that the POWERS that be are having trouble with is the MIDDLE-EAST. The need the control over it and you'll see military presence there for a long while

So wouldn't it be much better strategically to rely on our own oil (sending Greenpiss to hell) instead Arab oil?

[nicky10013]

So wouldn't it be much better strategically to rely on our own oil (sending Greenpiss to hell) instead Arab oil?

That's what the NEP was about. Oh wait, Conservatives hate that.

[Oleg Bach]

Here is the real definition of a lefty...a person of great idealism with very limited intelligence...where as a real right winger or "conservative" - Is a person of great idealism along with a good doze of intelligence...meaning well is not enough if you do not have the brain power to see the big picture!

Those that conspire...are usually hooligans who only conspire against those that are considered a threat..usually some one who is at issue with their agenda...who might notice that the idealism is half baked and not well thought out because of limited left brain capacity and talent.

[Michael Hardner]

Here is the real definition of a lefty...a person of great idealism with very limited intelligence...where as a real right winger or "conservative" - Is a person of great idealism along with a good doze of intelligence..

So conservative and liberals are both idealists, but liberals are stupid.

Thank you for that piece of claptrap. Do you like Rob Ford ?

[Oleg Bach]

So conservative and liberals are both idealists, but liberals are stupid.

Thank you for that piece of claptrap. Do you like Rob Ford ?

Not really a big fan of Ford - but at least he is to stupid to be corrupted..rather have an honest dumby doing the books than some shifty and shreed self proclaimed genius..who teaches via pandering with stuff like "feelings" - or telling a kind over and over again "good job" - Liberals institutionally speaking mean well but do not understand that for every action there is a reaction...and an effect that might not be positive and healthy...where as - smart and experienced old school conservatives know though experience - that is passed down via tradition - that if you do certain things that the out come is predictable...it's called culture and "the tried and true method"...

Idealism supposedly is ideas that are superiour to the last set of ideas - that time has shown - failed to have the desired results.....Yes - liberals are slightly stupid compared to a person that knows - for instance that a good man and woman combination..with well reared offspring generate stablity and wealth...your classic liberal will have some TEACHER come up with an "idea" and propogate it through students. Liberals believe what they are told and easily convinced of things that might be silly...

My definition of a real conservative is a person that makes an effort to conserve the things that work well....a liberal dis-respects tradtion thinking that they have a better way...when in reality they are driven by ambtion - averice and greed - as we saw with Millerism. Of course they have themselves convinced that they did the right thing -as the 15th black kid gets shot..apparently they failed.

[Evening Star]

So are they naive idealists or ambitious greedmongers? Get your story straight.