Topaz Posted October 10, 2010 Report Posted October 10, 2010 There's another screw up in immigration and a married couple are now physically separated, he's in Canada and she in Mexico. Before leaving they checked with Immigration to make sure everything was ok, it was they said, but it wasn't. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/08102010/79/central-leamington-man-s-wife-allowed-canada.html Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 10, 2010 Report Posted October 10, 2010 This story reads like a bad novel...divorced from reality (pun intended). Why is being "stuck down there" such a problem if Cortes is originally from Mexico? Oh, and I love this very unobjective comment: It’s terrible that they’re separated,” said their lawyer, Thore Lederer. “You’re not talking about some Mexican person who’s going to come to Canada to file some fake refugee claim. This is a true family claim.” "Some Mexican person"? LOL! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Saipan Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 There's another screw up in immigration and a married couple are now physically separated, he's in Canada and she in Mexico. It's like that for over a decade. If you get married in foreign country, you have to first sponsor your wife and wait like everyone else. About a year, more or less. But she can come here earlier on tourist visa AFTER all applications are filed from there. And yours filed here. My wife is RN, Anesthesiologist, Midwife and was manager of Private Hospital in Samut Sogkram (with many Farang patients) She had to wait as long and now her job is housewife. The best she could get in Canada, because we apparently don't need overqualifired nurses in remote communities. People with First Aid crash course will do. According to McGuinty. Quote
RNG Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) It's like that for over a decade. If you get married in foreign country, you have to first sponsor your wife and wait like everyone else. About a year, more or less. But she can come here earlier on tourist visa AFTER all applications are filed from there. And yours filed here. My wife is RN, Anesthesiologist, Midwife and was manager of Private Hospital in Samut Sogkram (with many Farang patients) She had to wait as long and now her job is housewife. The best she could get in Canada, because we apparently don't need overqualifired nurses in remote communities. People with First Aid crash course will do. According to McGuinty. Yet another example of how the government, and not just ours, can screw up bacon and eggs. And we trust them with our money? Edited October 11, 2010 by RNG Quote The government can't give anything to anyone without having first taken it from someone else.
wyly Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 My wife is RN, Anesthesiologist, Midwife and was manager of Private Hospital in Samut Sogkram (with many Farang patients) She had to wait as long and now her job is housewife. The best she could get in Canada, because we apparently don't need overqualifired nurses in remote communities. People with First Aid crash course will do. According to McGuinty. so what part of the canadian medical certification process did she fail?... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 Yet another example of how the government, and not just ours, can screw up bacon and eggs. And we trust them with our money? yet another example of how people believe everything they hear in Tim's... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 so what part of the canadian medical certification process did she fail?... Citizenship. Quote
Saipan Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 yet another example of how people believe everything they hear in Tim's... Speaking from own experience? Quote
wyly Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 Citizenship. you don't need to be a citizen to practice medicine here...your wife isn't practicing because she isn't even qualified as a nurse in Canada and likely doesn't even have the level of language fluency required...you claim she's a nurse and an Anesthesiologist and a midwife and a medical administrator nurses aren't Anesthesiologists, Anesthesiologist are MDs, a 10-12yr process... and Anesthesiologist are not mid-wives , a MDs that specialize in pregnancy are OB/GYN's not mid-wives...hospital administration, so a business admin degree as well?...add that all up in post secondary education required would total about 20Yrs?...that quite a wife you've got there Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted October 11, 2010 Report Posted October 11, 2010 you don't need to be a citizen to practice medicine here...your wife isn't practicing because she isn't even qualified as a nurse in Canada True. She's not from UK, or USA. you claim she's a nurse and an Anesthesiologist and a midwife and a medical administrator nurses aren't Anesthesiologists You can have more degree than one. I never claimed run of the mill nurses do. She also train nurses. Most RN do not. Quote
wyly Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) True. She's not from UK, or USA.there is no reciprocity agreement with the USA or UK in regards to practicing medicine in canada, they would to pass Canadian med exams and complete residency requirements as well...You can have more degree than one. I never claimed run of the mill nurses do. She also train nurses. Most RN do not.nurses are not allowed be Anesthesiologists, only MDs are... no hospital in North America is going to allow a nurse trained in Thailand to do a lumbar puncture...your wife isn't even qualified to practice as nurse in Canada, if she was she would be doing so...so getting back to your earlier post..."we apparently don't need overqualifired nurses in remote communities"...your wife is not qualified, she's not even a RN... there is no way she has the degrees/qualification you claim... RN-4 yrs, if she's training nurses then a Ma or PhD add another 2-3 years(my niece trains nurses and has her PhD)...Hospital admin, 5-6 yrs .....Anesthesiologist 10-12 yrs MD...Midwifery, 4 yr degree...so a formal post secondary education of 20-25 yrs....and some how with all that training she found the time to work her way up the corporate ladder to become the manager of a private hospital apparently your wife is super woman.... Edited October 12, 2010 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) there is no reciprocity agreement with the USA or UK in regards to practicing medicine in canada, they would to pass Canadian med exams and complete residency requirements as well... Quite a few nurses went to work in USA. Maybe they had to make exam there, but never heard of any of them doing any exam. no hospital in North America is going to allow a nurse trained in Thailand to do a lumber puncture The guy in lumberyard can. ...your wife isn't even qualified to practice as nurse in Canada Quite true - again - I never claim she was. There are even doctors who were doing surgery on patients from Europe and N. America, now driving taxi in Canada Half of her patients were also farangs from Europe and N. America. Many traveled quite a distance to the private hospital, from Phuket and as far North as Chiang Mai. Btw, the wait for MRI in Thailand is about an hour - even in government hospital. In Canada up to two months. apparently your wife is super woman.... She was told that too So how is the government doing? Edited October 12, 2010 by Saipan Quote
jbg Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 Yet another example of how the government, and not just ours, can screw up bacon and eggs. And we trust them with our money? Governments and hospitals do scary things. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
wyly Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 Quite a few nurses went to work in USA. Maybe they had to make exam there, but never heard of any of them doing any exam. the usa has lower standards...Quite true - again - I never claim she was. you implied that she qualified but not allowed to practice by the government...There are even doctors who were doing surgery on patients from Europe and N. America, now driving taxi in Canada because a "doctor" does surgery in a third world country does not indicate they are competent...if they drive a Taxi they're not qualified to practice here, end of story... Half of her patients were also farangs from Europe and N. America. Many traveled quite a distance to the private hospital, from Phuket and as far North as Chiang Mai. and that proves what? only that they have no clue to the skills of the people treating them...nurses acting as anesthesiologists, I'll be sure to give that medical system a pass...Btw, the wait for MRI in Thailand is about an hour - even in government hospital. In Canada up to two months. the average Thai can't afford a months salary to pay for an MRI...and there is no wait for emergency MRI here so that's irrelevant, and besides that, it's free... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 the usa has lower standards... And that's why many Canadians - including Premier - go for treatment to USA because a "doctor" does surgery in a third world country does not indicate they are competent... Actually it does. It's the results that count, not bureaucratic decisions. People from First World country travel to Third World country - even to Second World country - for treatment. the average Thai can't afford a months salary to pay for an MRI... That is what government hospitals are for. Quote
guyser Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 And that's why many Canadians - including Premier - go for treatment to USA Very very few , and the street runs both ways for very very few americans. Nice try about your wife there. Stick to storytelling. Quote
wyly Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) Actually it does. It's the results that count, not bureaucratic decisions. People from First World country travel to Third World country - even to Second World country - for treatment. no, americans go to third world countries because it is cheaper than in the USA...why would a canadian go to a third world country to pay for something they get here for free? extremely few do...most of those that do do so for elective treatments not covered by our healthcare, cosmetic surgery... Edited October 12, 2010 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 no, americans go to third world countries because it is cheaper than in the USA... And Canadians go to the US for the priviledge to pay? why would a canadian go to a third world country to pay for something they get here for free? For two reasons. 1) They would have to wait forever or 2) They wouln't get it here at all - take for example the latest MS treatment in Poland. Also with expensite dental work. Plastic surgery etc. Quote
wyly Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) And Canadians go to the US for the priviledge to pay? .11% of canadians go to the USA for healthcare and some of those no doubt are for treatments that are so rare in canada that health care covers the expense, still others because border hospitals have agreements for patient treatment when one or the other are full and others for cosmetic surgeries not covered by healthcare...so that doesn't leave to many actively seeking care in the US at one time as many as 60,000 americans per year were making improper claims in Ontario for healthcare.... For two reasons. 1) They would have to wait forever or not true, no one waits for emergancy treatment...2) They wouln't get it here at all - take for example the latest MS treatment in Poland.ahhh... the treatment that doesn't work...ya great lets waste millions of valuable healthcare dollars on medical scams...and it isn't the latest treatment it's at least 20yrs old and has zero value treating MS...Also with expensite dental work.Plastic surgery etc. it's elective, you don't to brush and floss everyday I'm not paying for your dental bills, you want a boob lift pay for it yourself.... Edited October 12, 2010 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 .11% of canadians go to the USA for healthcare Says Iggy? not true, no one waits for emergancy treatment... Some die waiting. ahhh... the treatment that doesn't work... Works for 60 to 80% of patients, according to latest news. Alternative is nothing. ya great lets waste millions of valuable healthcare dollars on medical scams... The only scam is claim that Canada health care pays for it. you don't to brush and floss everyday I'm not paying for your dental bills. You never did. And if I didn't care better than most I wouldn't need a dentist at 71 years of age. Btw, my dentist is in Thailand. I want only the best. Quote
wyly Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 Says Iggy? says american health surveys Some die waiting.BSWorks for 60 to 80% of patients, according to latest news. Alternative is nothing.it works for no one according to MS doctors...it's all in their heads, patients report feeling better(because they want to feel better) but when tested show no improvement...this treatment makes as much sense as getting a haircut to stop a toothache....there can be no cure until there the cause for MS is discovered...The only scam is claim that Canada health care pays for it.I made no claim, you are the one that wanted it funded... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 Medical mistakes third leading cause of deaths in Canada http://adultaddstrengths.com/2005/06/05/medical-mistakes-3rd-leading-cause-of-deaths-in-canada/ Quote
Smallc Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Medical mistakes third leading cause of deaths in Canada http://adultaddstrengths.com/2005/06/05/medical-mistakes-3rd-leading-cause-of-deaths-in-canada/ And those numbers are the same throughout the world. Quote
Saipan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 And those numbers are the same throughout the world. Let's see. Quote
Smallc Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Let's see. I don't have time or care to look. Quote
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