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[capricorn]

That problem has already been solved. Sharia won't become part of the 'landscape' here in Canada.

It already has a foot in the door. The provision of Sharia compliant financial services is a growing industry in Canada.

Welcome to UM Financial!

Islamic finance is based on the Abrahamic principles of fairness, justice and equality. Islamic finance promotes trade and forbids usury, interest and uncertainty. Compared to conventional finance, Islamic finance is more secure, more balanced and is open to all.

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It seems only yesterday that Premier Dalton McGuinty declared: "There will be no sharia law in Ontario." Many of us, who witnessed the medieval nature of manmade sharia laws in our countries of birth, heaved a sigh of relief back in September of 2005. We thought this was the end of the attempt by Islamists to sneak sharia into a Western jurisdiction. We were wrong.

The campaign to introduce sharia is back. Last time, the campaign took a populist approach, invoking multiculturalism. This time, the pro-sharia lobby is dangling the carrot of new niche markets and has the backing of Canada's major banks. Such icons of the corporate world as Citibank NA, HSBC Holdings PLC, and Barclays PLC have endorsed sharia banking and have started offering Islamic financing products to a vulnerable Muslim population.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/01/banks-are-helping-sharia-make-a-back-door-entrance.html

There is no doubt that some forms of Sharia law already exist in Canada and may well expand. Where there's a market, there will be providers.

[Michael Hardner]

So you're really looking forward to Sharia law being imposed in parts of Ontario?

Your rhetoric called - it wants its hyperbole back.

[RNG]

Yes.

Be careful. You may get what you wish for.

[RNG]

Your rhetoric called - it wants its hyperbole back.

So you're saying they didn't try? That is about as scary as the 9-11 was done by the CIA fanatics.

[Michael Hardner]

So you're saying they didn't try? That is about as scary as the 9-11 was done by the CIA fanatics.

1st sentence - what ?

2nd sentence - just does not make sense.

[RNG]

Are you trying to say there wasn't a serious attempt in a part of Toronto, IIRC, to have Sharia law instituted?

And turning a blind eye to that is truly scary.

[pcml]

Utter drivel.

No it is not

It is the truth in my view as well

What with harper quietly slipping CMHC 75 Billion for over blown house prices and of course not really charging interest

Yes those fiscal conservative types who have taken a 13 Billion dollar surplus to a 64 Billion dollar deficit

Harpercrites across the country hide your face in shame...you deserve it !!

[M.Dancer]

Are you trying to say there wasn't a serious attempt in a part of Toronto, IIRC, to have Sharia law instituted?

And turning a blind eye to that is truly scary.

I would say that. The |city of Toronto has no jursdiction.

[M.Dancer]

So you're really looking forward to Sharia law being imposed in parts of Ontario?

"parts of ontario"?

....pass the tinfoil honey...

[PIK]

Right... so Harper is a coward is what you're saying.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/facts2009/permanent/index.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/facts2009/temporary/29.asp

252,179 permanent residents, 33,161 refugees.

700,000 ?

Give him a majority and see if he is. And of course everyone is scared to touch it because that is how the PC crowd like it, disagree and we will be all over you. And maybe all this money we have had to pay for immigration, bilingualism, multiculturism , people can't afford to raise kids. Not like the countries where alot of people come from ,poor as can be and having 7 kids.This book is going to blow open alot of the liberal myths about how we need mass immigration. And to tell me that certain african countries where people are coming from have the same values as canadians, give me a break.

[PIK]

No it is not

It is the truth in my view as well

What with harper quietly slipping CMHC 75 Billion for over blown house prices and of course not really charging interest

Yes those fiscal conservative types who have taken a 13 Billion dollar surplus to a 64 Billion dollar deficit

Harpercrites across the country hide your face in shame...you deserve it !!

So you agree the liberals were over taxing us by 13 billon dollars and don't forget who, mput the pressure on harper to open up the banks. We need a election and a harper majority and get this country back working and not just relying on bringing more people in.

[M.Dancer]

... give me a break.

You were given a break. Yet you still cling to this 700K nonsense. Why may I ask should anyone take you seriously?

[Shwa]

You were given a break. Yet you still cling to this 700K nonsense. Why may I ask should anyone take you seriously?

Because anyone that self-righteous needs to be taken very seriously. But not for the reasons they think.

[Michael Hardner]

Give him a majority and see if he is. And of course everyone is scared to touch it because that is how the PC crowd like it, disagree and we will be all over you.

It sounds like you're saying he IS a coward. He won't do what's right because he's scared to touch it...

[bloodyminded]

It already has a foot in the door. The provision of Sharia compliant financial services is a growing industry in Canada.

Islamic finance is based on the Abrahamic principles of fairness, justice and equality. Islamic finance promotes trade and forbids usury, interest and uncertainty. Compared to conventional finance, Islamic finance is more secure, more balanced and is open to all.

As horrible and uncivilized as that sounds--unlike our noble system of usury and crippling debt, which is no issue at all--this isn't a "foot in the door," because it doesn't contravene Canadian law.

When Canadian law is trumped, then there might be legitimate grounds for concern. I see no evidence that this is going to happen.

There is no doubt that some forms of Sharia law already exist in Canada and may well expand. Where there's a market, there will be providers.

There's a "market"--30% of Canadians, at a minimum--who wish for same sex mariage to be abolished. And that's not even on the radar.

The reactionaries lost that one, and will lose others as well.

[Michael Hardner]

There's a "market"--30% of Canadians, at a minimum--who wish for same sex mariage to be abolished. And that's not even on the radar.

The reactionaries lost that one, and will lose others as well.

Besides which, saying Sharia law exists now - what does that mean ? All religious practices exist where their adherents exist, so... ?

[Argus]

Who cares if more people come in. Nationalism is as stupid as religion. There is no such thing as culture either, merely a social construct. Once you get over these basic concepts, you will soon realize we can live in peace without your meaningless rants and raves of ignorance and hatred.

You've never paid taxes in your life, have you?

[Argus]

No it is not

It is the truth in my view as well

What with harper quietly slipping CMHC 75 Billion for over blown house prices and of course not really charging interest

Yes those fiscal conservative types who have taken a 13 Billion dollar surplus to a 64 Billion dollar deficit

Harpercrites across the country hide your face in shame...you deserve it !!

I'm thinking that you have never taken an economics or accounting course, and that you really don't know anything about either. The huge deficit was largely a result of a short term recession combined with the opposition demand for an enormous incentive program. The incentive program is over and the recession is spiraling down. The deficits will begin to shrink - in fact, are already shrinking. Why you people on the far left seem to feel that a couple of years of deficits will require a nation-changing mass migration to solve is quite beyond me.

And how you think bringing in a bunch of poor third world people who won't be paying taxes is somehow going to "solve" anything is just plain puzzling.

[Argus]

Besides which, saying Sharia law exists now - what does that mean ? All religious practices exist where their adherents exist, so... ?

Cultures adapt the laws which seem proper to them. The more people from foreign cultures we have here the more foreign concepts will be embraced by Canadian law. Isn't that clear to everyone?

[RNG]

I challenge you to google "sharia law in Canada".

[bjre]

Actually, try about 250,000 a year....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Canada

If you disagree with that, you are labelled a tinfoil hat aficionado

Flows of People and the Canada-China Relationship (Canadian International Council)

http://www.asiapacific.ca/sites/default/files/filefield/China_Papers_No10.pdf

(May 2010)

(page 34)

Canadian communities in China are growing for many reasons. Although the exact number remains unknown, the best estimate puts

the number of Canadians in China (Mainland and HKSAR) at 250,000-300,000

, roughly the size of the population of Saskatoon or Windsor. Canada cannot afford to ignore the fact that so many Canadians live in China. How Canada can turn its diaspora in China into an advantage remains a huge challenge.

I guess the main reason is because of the difficulty to find a professional job.

Also from that paper (page 12) I have found that from 2001 to 2008, there are 278,073 Chinese immigrants enter Canada. That means the number current in China are about the same number who enter Canada in the 8 years. That indicates how hard for a Chinese immigrant to survive in Canada. So they have to choose go back home.

[M.Dancer]

I challenge you to google "sharia law in Canada".

I challenge you to google "tub girls"

[bjre]

http://www.lowellgreen.com/Home_Page.html

Statistics always misleading when it have political purpose, just like this one: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=17143

Democracy need vote, so lies are always everywhere trying to keep the voters from truth.

[Evening Star]

Look at the scandal with India and the Commonwealth Games. They're ready to open the games and the place is a disgrace! The living quarters aren't even sanitary! What people don't want to face is that such situations are NORMAL for India! Since Britain pulled out and gave them independence nothing works. They can't make the utilities reliable or the trains run on time. In vast areas of the country its a miracle if the water keeps flowing from the taps.

What HAVE they accomplished in those 50 years? Well, they got themselves the nuclear bomb! Millions of their people live in squalor but hey! They've got the Nuke! They're in the big boy's club!

This is nonsense. Britain plundered India. It was widely seen as a 'basket case' when the UK left. Since that time, India has made steady progress in many areas: industrial development (a priority for Nehru and something that has taken off even more since economic liberalization), agricultural production (all the way back to Indira Gandhi in the 70s), higher education (IIT), technological innovation, minority rights (also a Nehru priority), women's rights. Nearly everyone knows that India is currently amongst the world's fastest-growing economies and a centre for high-tech industry. It's far from perfect but it would be hard to achieve more in 60 years in a highly multicultural democracy of a billion people that had been left in poverty and has had to contend with hostile neighbours. The changes since the mid-90s alone are incredible (not always for the better - the air is genuinely hard to breathe in some cities).

[Evening Star]

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/in.html

(Read the "Economy" section.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#Economy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology#Educational_rankings