A lady just sat down beside me in a full BERKA

[Oleg Bach]

Okay ...boy does she have nice hands..and those eyes - mystic....love the colour of the robe by the way...okay now for a peek at her screen...here goes......nope - can't do it...my side vision works pretty good though..the hot Berka babe is highly skilled on the computer..Maybe she is a terrorist? A rich one at that...she has about 10 grand in gold on her hands...I forgot - terrorist have to be poor and miserable to be recruited - Or in the alternative a rich spoiled Saudi Arabian who needs a hobby that consists of killing infidels... She just gave out the cutest sneeze....Okay I am going to drop something on the ground and take another peek ...maybe I will drop a pen an oogle her sacred never before seen by a westerner ankels?

God ...her legs ...not that I looked must be those of a tender deer...oh no! If a hot headed Muslim reads this he is going to come gunning for me for even thinking of looking at his hot covered up woman....Her typing skills are a bit slow....CAN'T DO it FOLKS...JUST CAN'T BE RUDE AND GLARE AT HERE PRIVATE COMPUTER WRITINGS...JEZZ .. i AM SUCH A CHICKEN.

[Peter F]

Okay ...boy does she have nice hands..and those eyes - mystic....love the colour of the robe by the way...okay now for a peek at her screen...here goes.......she has about 10 grand in gold on her hands...... She just gave out the cutest sneeze....Okay I am going to drop something on the ground and take another peek ...maybe I will drop a pen an oogle her sacred never before seen by a westerner ankels?

God ...her legs ...not that I looked must be those of a tender deer...oh no! looking at his hot covered up woman....

You see Oleg? Thats why there are Burka's. Good thing she's wearing one or you'd have jumped her.

Edited September 14, 2010 by Peter F

[wyly]

Okay ...boy does she have nice hands..and those eyes - mystic....love the colour of the robe by the way...okay now for a peek at her screen...here goes......nope - can't do it...my side vision works pretty good though..the hot Berka babe is highly skilled on the computer..Maybe she is a terrorist? A rich one at that...she has about 10 grand in gold on her hands...I forgot - terrorist have to be poor and miserable to be recruited - Or in the alternative a rich spoiled Saudi Arabian who needs a hobby that consists of killing infidels... She just gave out the cutest sneeze....Okay I am going to drop something on the ground and take another peek ...maybe I will drop a pen an oogle her sacred never before seen by a westerner ankels?

God ...her legs ...not that I looked must be those of a tender deer...oh no! If a hot headed Muslim reads this he is going to come gunning for me for even thinking of looking at his hot covered up woman....Her typing skills are a bit slow....CAN'T DO it FOLKS...JUST CAN'T BE RUDE AND GLARE AT HERE PRIVATE COMPUTER WRITINGS...JEZZ .. i AM SUCH A CHICKEN.

I recall when I was young catholic nuns used to walk around covered head to toe I thought that was strange but no one complained...the face covering bit is extreme but where do we draw a line on how we dress in public, we have issues with women going topless in public and now we have issues with too much clothes...

[eyeball]

...we have issues with women going topless in public and now we have issues with too much clothes...

Some men need to wear blinders whereas others need to open their eyes.

Myself, I've never had issues with women going topless in public. I suspect some women might have issues with me going topless but that's probably my own fault.

[fellowtraveller]

That is not a burka, it is a uniform and the nurse would like you to slip into this special jacket and take the pills without a fuss this time.

[Michael Hardner]

And she's likely on some forum talking about the crazy guy beside her who smells like crayons...

[wyly]

Some men need to wear blinders whereas others need to open their eyes.

Myself, I've never had issues with women going topless in public. I suspect some women might have issues with me going topless but that's probably my own fault.

eyeball, sometimes I think we're twins seperated at birth.... Edited September 14, 2010 by wyly

[Wild Bill]

...the face covering bit is extreme but where do we draw a line on how we dress in public...

I thought the face covering was the entire issue! Who cares about ethnic dress? The problem with the burkha is that it hides identity. This is one of the most basic tenets of western society. If that bothers some immigrants then let them choose not to come here!

Osama bin Lauden himself could hide under one of those things and who is to know? Security and safety for society at large has to trump ethnic custom. Hell, the burkha didn't appear till the 1970's anyway! That's suspiciously around the time middle eastern terrorism was starting to take hold. It makes a marvelous tool for terrorists, that's for sure.

Conceivably, we could have repeated suicide bombings under cover of burkhas several times a week! An exaggeration perhaps but it only has to happen once to kill someone's innocent wife or child. Is allowing the hiding of identity worth it?

[wyly]

I thought the face covering was the entire issue! Who cares about ethnic dress? The problem with the burkha is that it hides identity. This is one of the most basic tenets of western society. If that bothers some immigrants then let them choose not to come here!

I don't like it either Bill but what tenet are you speaking of where is it written down? I recall in our western past there were times where veils were also worn..

Osama bin Lauden himself could hide under one of those things and who is to know? Security and safety for society at large has to trump ethnic custom. Hell, the burkha didn't appear till the 1970's anyway! That's suspiciously around the time middle eastern terrorism was starting to take hold. It makes a marvelous tool for terrorists, that's for sure.

agree, at areas where security is a concern(banks, airports) it should be forbidden...

Conceivably, we could have repeated suicide bombings under cover of burkhas several times a week! An exaggeration perhaps but it only has to happen once to kill someone's innocent wife or child. Is allowing the hiding of identity worth it?

but we allow guns to be sold freely and how many wives and children have they killed over the years...as much as I dislike the burka we must be careful not to over-react, civil liberties once lost are extremely difficult to regain...

[GostHacked]

Oleg Bach is from Bizarro World.

What the hell did I just read.!??!?

[Oleg Bach]

Some men need to wear blinders whereas others need to open their eyes.

Myself, I've never had issues with women going topless in public. I suspect some women might have issues with me going topless but that's probably my own fault.

BET SHE WAS TOPLESS.....solomon rusdi - move over

[Oleg Bach]

Oleg Bach is from Bizarro World.

What the hell did I just read.!??!?

Is it just me...but i might just convert...\bERKA BABES ARE HOT...I wrote it off the cuff in real time....if they eyes are wonderful then there is a beautiful woman under that robe..it's sexy...mystery..the forbidden..and all that.

[Oleg Bach]

I don't like it either Bill but what tenet are you speaking of where is it written down? I recall in our western past there were times where veils were also worn..

agree, at areas where security is a concern(banks, airports) it should be forbidden...

but we allow guns to be sold freely and how many wives and children have they killed over the years...as much as I dislike the burka we must be careful not to over-react, civil liberties once lost are extremely difficult to regain...

True....that is human nature...once one has disempowered the other...the top dog is not about to take the leash off the compliant one...now off topic...to me it seems that western woman are a bit dysfunctional and wear invisable burkas...

[Bonam]

to me it seems that western woman are a bit dysfunctional and wear invisable burkas...

There's lots of different women (and men) of all cultures that are "a bit dysfunctional" as well as lots that are just fine. These kinds of stereotypes don't do anyone any good.

[Oleg Bach]

And she's likely on some forum talking about the crazy guy beside her who smells like crayons...

Funny she actually did not smell at all.....yes it was a guy in a Berka....a cross dressing Muslim....wonder if some Molah some where is going to offer a billion bucks to the guy who blows me up for insulting islam and for not using a capital on the word islam...

[Michael Hardner]

Funny she actually did not smell at all.....yes it was a guy in a Berka....a cross dressing Muslim....wonder if some Molah some where is going to offer a billion bucks to the guy who blows me up for insulting islam and for not using a capital on the word islam...

If anyone at all cared about your punctuation, grammar or lucidity you would have been exploded many posts ago.

[Jack Weber]

I don't particularily care how a woman is dressed...

I'm into the visibility of the proportional curviness of the entire package...

[guyser]

I thought the face covering was the entire issue! Who cares about ethnic dress? The problem with the burkha is that it hides identity. This is one of the most basic tenets of western society.

So does wearing a motorcycle helmet, halloween mask, balaclava in Winterpeg in February,large glasses and a scarf,cosmetic surgery.....all legal.

So, is it identity you"re really concerned about ?

[Wild Bill]

So does wearing a motorcycle helmet, halloween mask, balaclava in Winterpeg in February,large glasses and a scarf,cosmetic surgery.....all legal.

So, is it identity you"re really concerned about ?

Non sequitur. Motorcycle helmets are normally only worn while driving a motorcycle. Halloween masks are worn at Halloween, and so on.

Try walking into a bank wearing your balaclava. Or going through airport screening with a Halloween mask in place.

No one suggested banning the wearing of a burkha in your own house or backyard. However, certainly it should be in security sensitive areas. In these times of terrorist dangers, the definition of a security sensitive area should err on the public safety side.

You should keep in mind that the burkha ban is a reaction to some Islamic groups that are demanding they should be worn practically 24/7, without regard to any security concerns!

That in itself should be grounds for suspicion. Can you cite any NON-fundamentalist strain of Islamism that promotes the burkha? Seems to me it's only those sects that are more likely to abuse security concerns!

We haven't even mentioned how demeaning it is to women. What's in it for us to condone such in our society? How likely is a women raised in such a manner to be an asset to our country as a whole?

[guyser]

Non sequitur. Motorcycle helmets are normally only worn while driving a motorcycle. Halloween masks are worn at Halloween, and so on.

Try walking into a bank wearing your balaclava. Or going through airport screening with a Halloween mask in place.

I dont believe its a non sequitur.

But let me ask this since I ve had this discussion in tha past......

Craft me the law that would ban burkha's.

I suspect holes would be shot through it in mere minutes .

No one suggested banning the wearing of a burkha in your own house or backyard. However, certainly it should be in security sensitive areas. In these times of terrorist dangers, the definition of a security sensitive area should err on the public safety side.

Security does not rest solely on seeing a face. But thast aside, you are moving the goalposts. Ok in your backyard but no the frontyard, which in and of itself is demeaning since we couldnt allow them to choose to wear it. Some may be forced to, some others are forced to wear veils for other religious reasons. ie, Sicilian wives after the death of a husband, an entire year is spent under veil. Wanna tell a Sicilian woman she cant? Brother, ya best have some fleet feet or the rolling pin will hurt !

We haven't even mentioned how demeaning it is to women. What's in it for us to condone such in our society? How likely is a women raised in such a manner to be an asset to our country as a whole?

Plenty of demeaning things and ideas in this country. We cannot isolate one and ignore tyhe others

[wyly]

We haven't even mentioned how demeaning it is to women. What's in it for us to condone such in our society? How likely is a women raised in such a manner to be an asset to our country as a whole?

now you're stretching the point Bill, you can't speak for those women telling us how they feel...

we have plenty of christian sects in canada that by your standards and mine as well that we would consider demeaning but they accept it as part of their religious society...

[Oleg Bach]

If anyone at all cared about your punctuation, grammar or lucidity you would have been exploded many posts ago.

WHAT NO ONE CARES? lucidity? - I am certainly as lucid as I personally wish to be - if you want more lucidity..then that would mean that I would have to care...as for grammar - punctuation - welcome to the brave new world of electronic digital communication............................what do you think of all those periods? I have a billion of them in my machine.

[Oleg Bach]

now you're stretching the point Bill, you can't speak for those women telling us how they feel...

we have plenty of christian sects in canada that by your standards and mine as well that we would consider demeaning but they accept it as part of their religious society...

LOOK AT FRANCE- THEY have totally lost respect for personal female and male atonomy and dignity - They now tell woman that they can NOT wear a berka - and it is all under the guise of womans rights..what a bunch of trash - The fact is that France has decided without the consultation of Muslim woman that all female forms are property of everyone - and the classic Muslim woman must join the ranks of western whoredom...

You might think these words are a bit strong but _ Muslim woman BELONG - Strickly to the husband...they are property..and rightfully so! IN OUR original Christian doctrine Saint Paul stated that "the body of the woman belongs to the husband - and the husbands body belongs to the wife" - to para phrase - If we do not stick to the original premise of marriage..which is "flesh of my flesh - bone of my bone -forsaking all others" - well that would mean that the woman's body does not belong to the husband but to f**king EVERYONE! ...If that is the case in modern society then - let all the men pile on the woman and have their way - which is what happens.

To deny Muslim woman and MEN the berka - is an intrusion into their and OUR original form of marriage...

Now having said all that. Look at the black ghetto project types in our city...THEY WEAR HOODS - BIG DARK SUN GLASSES AT NIGHT AND ARE TOTALLY DISGUISED...........I DON'T HEAR ANYONE RANTING ABOUT THEM HAVING TO SHOW THEIR IDENTITY IN PUBLIC!

Even though these dark shady types in diguise - go about my hood - doing break and enters and acts of violence _ We want to disrobe the Muslim woman of her berka - YET we do not have the will to de-hood - the black gang bangers in the hood?

[Michael Hardner]

WHAT NO ONE CARES? lucidity? - I am certainly as lucid as I personally wish to be - if you want more lucidity..then that would mean that I would have to care...as for grammar - punctuation - welcome to the brave new world of electronic digital communication............................what do you think of all those periods? I have a billion of them in my machine.

And you smell like crayons.

[guyser]

And you smell like crayons.

Why insult crayons ?