capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) Asked Sunday during CTV’s Question Period about Bob Rae’s potential support of federal bucks for a possible NHL arena in Quebec City, the lesser Davey sloughed off the question with this high-brow insult.“It was once said about the Toronto Sun that it’s a newspaper for people who can’t read,” he said. “And I think that probably applies to the whole chain.” So, there it is — straight from the horse’s ass. You, dear readers, are as dumb as posts. So, whether you are in Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto or Ottawa — homes to our fleet of tabloids – perhaps you can find a Liberal at your local library who will read this editorial to you. They are easy to spot. They’ll have their heads up their arse. It is nigh impossible to believe, however, that Ignatieff himself doesn’t think the same way, since it was Davey who travelled to Cambridge in 2004 to convince Professor Ignatieff — BA, MA, PhD, BFD — to come down from his lectern and return to Canada after a three-decade absence to pursue the ghost, and assume the high forehead, of Pierre Elliott Trudeau. They are minds that think alike. We stated here at the outset that the Liberal leader’s summer road show, the so-called Liberal Express, was nothing but a circus act trying to sell the illusion that Ignatieff was no different than the average Canadian working stiff. And Ian Davey, Liberal spokesman, and former chief-of-staff to Ignatieff, has now confirmed the ruse. To the Liberal elite, you are the underclass. To the Liberal elite, you are worthy only of insults. You are nothing but an illiterate. But even illiterates know how to make an X on an election ballot. And that is the definitive upside. http://www.torontosun.com/comment/editorial/2010/09/12/15327056.html I know plenty of Liberal supporters who read The Sun. Have non-Liberals ever asked any MLW Liberals to read out The Sun to them? How do you feel about Davey lumping you in with a bunch of illiterates? Edited September 13, 2010 by capricorn Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
nicky10013 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 http://www.torontosun.com/comment/editorial/2010/09/12/15327056.html I know plenty of Liberal supporters who read The Sun. Have non-Liberals ever asked any MLW Liberals to read out The Sun to them? How do you feel about Davey lumping you in with a bunch of illiterates? Do you now? I know no Liberals who read the sun. Furthermore, the only people I know who actually read the sun, read it for the sunshine girls and the sports section. The news section is irrelevant. There are more ads than news and most of the news are disguised op eds. As for the article itself, it assumes that it's readers are stupid, so this guy is a pretty big hypocrite. Are we really to believe that since one guy in the Liberal Party thinks that way, that must mean all others do? It may work that way in the CPC, but it doesn't in the Liberal Party, that's for damned sure.. If it didn't work that way, you Conborgs wouldn't be loving every piece of dissent from the caucus. This article is nothing more than a desperate plea to the base to try and drum up support against the elites. It's a cry of culture war. It's a cry Canadians are becoming more aware of as the bunk that it is. Quote
capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) Here's today's Question Period video. Davey's comments about the Sun Media chain are in the third clip of the video at the 4 minute mark. http://watch.ctv.ca/news/ctvs-question-period/sept-12/#clip347094 Edited September 13, 2010 by capricorn Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 I know no Liberals who read the sun. Furthermore, the only people I know who actually read the sun, read it for the sunshine girls and the sports section. You don't know any Liberals who read the Sun but the ones you know who read the Sun.... OK.... It's a cry of culture war. But then it might be a case of an elite trying to put the peasants in their place. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
nicky10013 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 You don't know any Liberals who read the Sun but the ones you know who read the Sun.... OK.... Oh right, you're the one with the reading comprehension problems. But then it might be a case of an elite trying to put the peasants in their place. How? Since when does a fired Ignatieff official become a spokesperson for the Liberal Party? Since when does what he think automatically reflect on the rest of the party? Did he say something stupid? Absolutely, however, there's only one side of this trying to make hay out of a non-issue. Pssssssst.I'll give you a hint, it's not the Liberals. Quote
capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 Oh right, you're the one with the reading comprehension problems. From reading your posts, you say that about everyone who doesn't agree with you. How? Since when does a fired Ignatieff official become a spokesperson for the Liberal Party? Since when does what he think automatically reflect on the rest of the party? Ian Davey recruited Ignatieff. I'm certain Davey looked for and found a like minded elitist to be Prime Minister in Waiting. It's not a stretch to conclude they think alike about a lot of things, including how to spot the peasants in Canada. Ignatieff has the Davey touch. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Michael Hardner Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Awwwww... somebody insulted the Sun ? boo hoo hooo... maybe the Sun girl photo might feature some tears glistening off her boobs... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 Awwwww... somebody insulted the Sun ? boo hoo hooo... maybe the Sun girl photo might feature some tears glistening off her boobs... While wearing a leather suit and brandishing a whip? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
nicky10013 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 From reading your posts, you say that about everyone who doesn't agree with you. No, no I don't. Just you it seems. I'd go back and read what I said and then perchance if you clue in to what I actually wrote, then we'll discuss. Ian Davey recruited Ignatieff. I'm certain Davey looked for and found a like minded elitist to be Prime Minister in Waiting. It's not a stretch to conclude they think alike about a lot of things, including how to spot the peasants in Canada. Ignatieff has the Davey touch. Yeah, it is a stretch actually. Quote
Smallc Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 From reading your posts, you say that about everyone who doesn't agree with you. In this case, you certainly misread....and I agree with Davey about the Sun generally....especially now that Greg Weston is gone. Quote
capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 No, no I don't. Just you it seems. I'd go back and read what I said Oh sorry. It's just that I thought the only people you know and associate with are Liberals. and then perchance if you clue in to what I actually wrote, then we'll discuss. Perchance you'll now give me absolution? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
jbg Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) http://www.torontosun.com/comment/editorial/2010/09/12/15327056.html I know plenty of Liberal supporters who read The Sun. Have non-Liberals ever asked any MLW Liberals to read out The Sun to them? How do you feel about Davey lumping you in with a bunch of illiterates? Sounds like another "beer and popcorn" moment eh? Typical elitism. On our side of the border we're experiencing it with B. Hussein Osama's Obama's snobbishness and elitism. Ignatieff and Paul Martin before him are dripping with it as well. Edited September 13, 2010 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 I agree with Davey about the Sun generally.... Here's what Davey said: “It was once said about the Toronto Sun that it’s a newspaper for people who can’t read,” he said. “And I think that probably applies to the whole chain.” So you agree with Davey that Sun readers can't read? I think it's a snobbish attitude. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
jbg Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 So you agree with Davey that Sun readers can't read? I think it's a snobbish attitude. I never said that. I think that's the Stars' readers view of the Sun's readers. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
nicky10013 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 I never said that. I think that's the Stars' readers view of the Sun's readers. Also probably the view of people who read the National Post and the Globe and Mail as well. Quote
capricorn Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 Sounds like another "beer and popcorn" moment eh? Typical elitism. Yes. It's one of those things that is rapidly making the rounds on blogs. Who knows what will come of it. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
jbg Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Also probably the view of people who read the National Post and the Globe and Mail as well. Personally, I get the National Post online since I can't get it delivered here in the U.S. (a land I understand you disdain). Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
nicky10013 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Personally, I get the National Post online since I can't get it delivered here in the U.S. (a land I understand you disdain). And here's why the thread doesn't matter. Quote
jbg Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 And here's why the thread doesn't matter. Yet you're here. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Jack Weber Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Also probably the view of people who read the National Post and the Globe and Mail as well. That's right!!!! The Sun is a tabloid for half wits who want to read bumper sticker sloganeering headlines designed for the "Don Cherry" types with some chick shakin' her ta ta's on the back page...It does'nt even have a very good sports section anymore.And 2/3rds of it's 65+ pages are full page car or TV/stereo/electronics ads...And this is the crap that Peledeau gives us in print!Imagine the steaming pile of bovine excrement we'll see on TV!!! If some thinks that's snobbish,good for them...It's also the complete and total truth and I guess it hurts a little... I remember when the Sun had the girl on page 3 and was almost the whole page!!Of course,that was when it was still drawing on its Toronto Telegram roots and Paul Godfrey was the editor... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
nicky10013 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Yes. It's one of those things that is rapidly making the rounds on blogs. Who knows what will come of it. Hahahah just like Liberal blogs are predicting a majority, right? Quote
waldo Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 The Sun is a tabloid for half wits who want to read bumper sticker sloganeering headlines designed for the "Don Cherry" types with some chick shakin' her ta ta's on the back page...It does'nt even have a very good sports section anymore.And 2/3rds of it's 65+ pages are full page car or TV/stereo/electronics ads...And this is the crap that Peledeau gives us in print! Imagine the steaming pile of bovine excrement we'll see on TV!!!If some thinks that's snobbish,good for them...It's also the complete and total truth and I guess it hurts a little... yes - exhibit A... one can imagine the depths that Fox News North will reach to. beyond the rightful general assessment Davey offers of Peledeau's pile of media crapola, this specific Davey disdain for Sun News related to it's purposeful distortion of Bob Rae's comments/position concerning support (or not) for a new Quebec City hockey arena. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) That's right!!!! The Sun is a tabloid for half wits who want to read bumper sticker sloganeering headlines designed for the "Don Cherry" types with some chick shakin' her ta ta's on the back page...It does'nt even have a very good sports section anymore.And 2/3rds of it's 65+ pages are full page car or TV/stereo/electronics ads...And this is the crap that Peledeau gives us in print!Imagine the steaming pile of bovine excrement we'll see on TV!!! If some thinks that's snobbish,good for them...It's also the complete and total truth and I guess it hurts a little... I remember when the Sun had the girl on page 3 and was almost the whole page!!Of course,that was when it was still drawing on its Toronto Telegram roots and Paul Godfrey was the editor... All those "half wits" are Canadians - and they cast a vote - just like those who read the Star. Plumbers, electricians, police, subway riders - those people for who its not practical to read a "broadsheet" newspaper. They like the headlines, Sudoku, cartoons, Sports and maybe even the Comment section and editorial. Oh yes, and the Sunshine Girl. There's a large market for a tabloid and that's why the Sun exists. It's typical Left Wing intolerance to dismiss an entire segment of Canadian society....but when your drains are backed up, who are you going to call? Edited September 13, 2010 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
Wild Bill Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) All those "half wits" are Canadians - and they cast a vote - just like those who read the Star. Plumbers, electricians, police, subway riders - those people for who its not practical to read a "broadsheet" newspaper. They like the headlines, Sudoku, cartoons, Sports and maybe even the Comment section and editorial. Oh yes, and the Sunshine Girl. There's a large market for a tabloid and that's why the Sun exists. It's typical Left Wing intolerance to dismiss an entire segment of Canadian society....but when your drains are backed up, who are you going to call? Quite right, Keeps! What no one has mentioned so far is that the Liberals historically have faced charges of such elitism! It's a common thing for some Liberal party member to make such a comment. Remember when Hedy Fry dissed an entire west coast town by claiming it was over-run with cross burnings? I read the Sun religiously from its first day of publication up until about 1990. That was when they lost some key columnists that I admired to the newly launched National Post. Also, they bowed to politically correct pressure and moved the SunShine Girl to a smaller position at the back of the paper, putting slimmer models in more modest attire. It wasn't so much the change in the paper's philosophy by caving to the Priscilla Goodbody demographic that then made me switch papers. It was just that the Sun by then had become boring to me! Edited September 13, 2010 by Wild Bill Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
DrGreenthumb Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 The Sun papers are good for lining the bottom of birdcages, the single fold design makes it easy to fit the pages to the cage bottom. Actually I read both the local papers here in winnipeg, but the Sun's content is pretty shitty before it even makes it to cage bottom. The only thing good about the sun is its shape and size. Quote
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