9/11: 9 years have passed... STILL NO TRUTH !

Hoser360 · March 7, 2016

Dude, really? Aircraft that fly straight into the ground at over 400 Kts are very rare and when they do, there is very little left to pick up but small pieces.

http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/crashdebris.html

Good example. An F4 beinging thrown into a block of concrete, which has absolutely no relevance to the crash site in question, both the plane used in your example and the object hit by it, which collectively constitutes nothing of any scientific value. That said, how was it they managed to find one of the WOT terrorist passports on the ground in NY; wouldn't it have vaporized as well?

Maybe cut back a bit on those 'extra curricular activities' a bit, go for a walk, maybe a jog... ;-)

Unfortunately we will never get to examine the evidence because all the evidence was promptly destroyed.

Wilber · March 7, 2016

Good example. An F4 beinging thrown into a block of concrete, which has absolutely no relevance to the crash site in question, both the plane used in your example and the object hit by it, which collectively constitutes nothing of any scientific value. That said, how was it they managed to find one of the WOT terrorist passports on the ground in NY; wouldn't it have vaporized as well?

Maybe cut back a bit on those 'extra curricular activities' a bit, go for a walk, maybe a jog... ;-)

Unfortunately we will never get to examine the evidence because all the evidence was promptly destroyed.

You didn't bother to check the link to the C130 crash or just chose to ignore it. You didn't bother to follow any of the other links,, or just choose not to.

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/index.html

One more

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/implications.html

Edited March 7, 2016 by Wilber

Hoser360 · March 7, 2016

You didn't bother to check the link to the C130 crash or just chose to ignore it. You didn't bother to follow any of the other links,, or just choose not to.

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/index.html

Ya I did actually, and your evidence is so weak it's actually sad.

Where are those plane parts today? Where are the bodies, the luggage, A PASSPORT, why is there almost know video tape of this from what is arguably the most important military office the world!!!! I mean shit, even Scotia Tower in Toronto has over 120 CCTV cameras controlled by the building operations people, let alone the cameras the Scotia Bank it's self has, and yet the PENTAGON has no video of this plane crash!?

The military industrial complex has both the means and motivation for this kind of event. Just follow the money, who gained from this?

(perhaps try the organic stuff, that indoor hydro stuff, not so good)

Wilber · March 7, 2016

Ya I did actually, and your evidence is so weak it's actually sad.

Where are those plane parts today? Where are the bodies, the luggage, A PASSPORT, why is there almost know video tape of this from what is arguably the most important military office the world!!!! I mean shit, even Scotia Tower in Toronto has over 120 CCTV cameras controlled by the building operations people, let alone the cameras the Scotia Bank it's self has, and yet the PENTAGON has no video of this plane crash!?

The military industrial complex has both the means and motivation for this kind of event. Just follow the money, who gained from this?

(perhaps try the organic stuff, that indoor hydro stuff, not so good)

You don't have any evidence and never have That't the great thing about conspiracy theories, you don't need evidence and are free to just make shit up. In fact, you don't want evidence because it could conflict with your desired result. Instead you

ignore any evidence or present cockamamy reasons why it doesn't actually exist or must be faked without presenting one iota

of actual physical or eye witness evidence that backs up your claims.

Hoser360 · March 8, 2016

You don't have any evidence and never have That't the great thing about conspiracy theories, you don't need evidence and are free to just make shit up. In fact, you don't want evidence because it could conflict with your desired result. Instead you

ignore any evidence or present cockamamy reasons why it doesn't actually exist or must be faked without presenting one iota

of actual physical or eye witness evidence that backs up your claims.

I'd like nothing more than real evidence, but, sadly there is none. If there was actually physical evidence it would be on display for the world to see.

SO WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE NOW? Or should I be asking Indiana Joan's where it is.....

Edited March 8, 2016 by Hoser360

Wilber · March 8, 2016

I'd like nothing more than real evidence, but, sadly there is none. If there was actually physical evidence it would be on display for the world to see.

SO WHERE IS TOUR EVIDENCE NOW? Or should I be asking Indiana Joan's where it is.....

OK brain surgeon, prove there is some sort of conspiracy.

Hoser360 · March 8, 2016

OK brain surgeon, prove there is some sort of conspiracy.

Well to start, if I was investigating this incident, the first question I would ask, is who stans to gain the most from this action..? Motivation for a crime is a key component to establishing responsibility for it. The means/ability to commit the crime is just as important.

The lack of actual physical evidence which has been preserved and available to all for reference, is in of it's self a symptom of a lie.

There are far more reasonable questions regarding the 4 planes in the 9/11 tragedy than there is evidence that supports the Bush's administrations reasons for it.

Wilber · March 8, 2016

Well to start, if I was investigating this incident, the first question I would ask, is who stans to gain the most from this action..? Motivation for a crime is a key component to establishing responsibility for it. The means/ability to commit the crime is just as important.

The lack of actual physical evidence which has been preserved and available to all for reference, is in of it's self a symptom of a lie.

There are far more reasonable questions regarding the 4 planes in the 9/11 tragedy than there is evidence that supports the Bush's administrations reasons for it.

It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented to you, you will always want more while presenting none yourself. I'm not

playing your stupid game anymore, it is as futile as trying to teach grid nav theory to a three year old. Put up or shut up.

taxme · March 8, 2016

It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented to you, you will always want more while presenting none yourself. I'm not

playing your stupid game anymore, it is as futile as trying to teach grid nav theory to a three year old. Put up or shut up.

You still have not supplied any photo evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon. So, you might as well give up.

Wilber · March 8, 2016

You still have not supplied any photo evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon. So, you might as well give up.

You truthers have made up your mind that there is a conspiracy and everything was faked so you have no alternative but to try and ignore or discredit every bit of evidence put in front of you because you can't produce any of your own. You think

remaining ignorant gives you some sort of yellow brick road to the truth. In fact, you require ignorance to maintain your

"truth".

Edited March 8, 2016 by Wilber

taxme · March 8, 2016

You truthers have made up your mind that there is a conspiracy and everything was faked so you have no alternative but to try and ignore or discredit every bit of evidence put in front of you because you can't produce any of your own. You think

remaining ignorant gives you some sort of yellow brick road to the truth. In fact, you require ignorance to maintain your

"truth".

Yup, everybody who does not believe in the government version of what happened has to be ignorant. Just asking anyone to produce a photo of plane parts has to be horribly ignorant alright. How dare they challenge the government version of the events.

I say 50 lashes with a wet noodle for them. They deserve it.

cybercoma · March 8, 2016

I'm still waiting for the evidence of anything other than a plane destroying the towers or Pentagon.

Wilber · March 8, 2016

Yup, everybody who does not believe in the government version of what happened has to be ignorant. Just asking anyone to produce a photo of plane parts has to be horribly ignorant alright. How dare they challenge the government version of the events.

I say 50 lashes with a wet noodle for them. They deserve it.

There is nothing wrong with asking questions. The problem is making up your own conclusions to questions you can't answer

yourself. Conspiracy theorists are just plain lazy because all they have to do is question others, they don't have to

actually provide any evidence themselves.

You have already been shown many photos so showing you any more would meet the same reception. Denial.

If you acknowledged any of them you would have to admit your position is the piece of garbage that it is. Your whole argument relies on ignorance of the facts and denial of evidence. I know it and you know it.

taxme · March 9, 2016

There is nothing wrong with asking questions. The problem is making up your own conclusions to questions you can't answer

yourself. Conspiracy theorists are just plain lazy because all they have to do is question others, they don't have to

actually provide any evidence themselves.

You have already been shown many photos so showing you any more would meet the same reception. Denial.

If you acknowledged any of them you would have to admit your position is the piece of garbage that it is. Your whole argument relies on ignorance of the facts and denial of evidence. I know it and you know it.

I am afraid to say it but it would appear as though you know nothing about 9/11. You appear to only know and believe what the establishment wants you to know and believe. But why keep this up? Just show me a photo of a plane, and I will be happy. I don't think that is to much to ask, is it?

Show me a plane, man.

DogOnPorch · March 9, 2016

Show me a plane, man.

Who actually did 9/11?

bush_cheney2004 · March 9, 2016

Show me a plane, man.

No way man, it is a lot more fun to show the amateur "no plane" fakes like this "American Airlines" logo cruise missile for Flight 77:

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cruise-missile-painted-like-american-airlines.t624/

cybercoma · March 9, 2016

Show me a plane, man.

Show anything other than a plane.

Wilber · March 9, 2016

I am afraid to say it but it would appear as though you know nothing about 9/11. You appear to only know and believe what the establishment wants you to know and believe. But why keep this up? Just show me a photo of a plane, and I will be happy. I don't think that is to much to ask, is it?

Show me a plane, man.

Broken record.

I made it quite clear that this is as serious and somewhat personal issue for me. I think we all distrust government to some degree and rightly so but it burns me that truthers are willing to pretend the 250 odd people on those aircraft, their

families and everyone else in their lives didn't exist just so they can indulge in a fantasy that

they don't have one credible piece of evidence to support.

Contempt is the only accurate word I can think of. Their contempt for all those people and my contempt for them for doing it.

Hope I've made myself clear.

taxme · March 10, 2016

Broken record.

I made it quite clear that this is as serious and somewhat personal issue for me. I think we all distrust government to some degree and rightly so but it burns me that truthers are willing to pretend the 250 odd people on those aircraft, their

families and everyone else in their lives didn't exist just so they can indulge in a fantasy that

they don't have one credible piece of evidence to support.

Contempt is the only accurate word I can think of. Their contempt for all those people and my contempt for them for doing it.

Hope I've made myself clear.

I think that I already have made myself clear also. I guess that you will just have to live with it.

DogOnPorch · March 10, 2016

I think that I already have made myself clear also. I guess that you will just have to live with it.

Well, you haven't made it clear who actually did 9-11 if it wasn't al-Qaeda and pals.

taxme · March 10, 2016

No way man, it is a lot more fun to show the amateur "no plane" fakes like this "American Airlines" logo cruise missile for Flight 77:

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cruise-missile-painted-like-american-airlines.t624/

That big round hole in the wall could be due to something like a big round missile slamming into it. Hey, you never know.

taxme · March 10, 2016

Well, you haven't made it clear who actually did 9-11 if it wasn't al-Qaeda and pals.

That kind of info. would be to heavy for anyone here to get their heads around. As Jack Nicholson said to Tom Cruise in one of their movies together, said to Cruise that "you could not handle the truth". So, better just stick with the government version.

DogOnPorch · March 10, 2016

That kind of info. would be to heavy for anyone here to get their heads around. As Jack Nicholson said to Tom Cruise in one of their movies together, said to Cruise that "you could not handle the truth". So, better just stick with the government version.

Try me...who actually did 9-11?

taxme · March 10, 2016

Who actually did 9/11?

How would I know? I was not there. But as far as I am concerned, who ever did it looks like they just may have gotten away with it, so far.

Hoser360 · March 10, 2016

Who gained from this? What happened to the 2.3T dollars the pentagon lost and has yet to account for? Who has made the most money from this whole situation..? Follow the Money and you'll find your answers......