Jack Weber Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) Your whole post proves my point. Only an ideologue would compose such a demented diatribe. Hey Smallc, having second thoughts! Your simpleton non0answer masquarading as a response proves you have no ammunition in your intellectual gun... We're still waiting for you to actually prove how I'm a two dimensional idealogue on any major issue of the day... You had better start trying,or otherwise ,you will expose yourself for being the ill-informed fool you seem to portray here... And...Oh yes...Playing the "crazy" card right on time because you cannot refute anything I've called you on... Classic,professor Kitzel...Classic.. Edited August 30, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shady Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 Your simpleton non0answer masquarading as a response proves you have no ammunition in your intellectual gun... We're still waiting for you to actually prove how I'm a two dimensional idealogue on any major issue of the day... You had better start trying,or otherwise ,you will expose yourself for being the ill-informed fool you seem to portray here... And...Oh yes...Playing the "crazy" card right on time because you cannot refute anything I've called you on... Classic,professor Kitzel...Classic.. Keep talkin Jack! Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) Keep talkin Jack! Another obfuscating non response,Professor... Please show everyone where I've been a two dimensional ideologue and lets go issue by issue... Please be specific... Edited August 30, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Smallc Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 Hey Smallc, having second thoughts! Nope. Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) Oh well,Professor Kitzel... It looks like you can't rely on Smallc to believe in your hairbrained theories... Professor,I don't know what's leading the pack,but there's a tight 3-way race for the lead between You're ability to publicly make a fool of yourself... You're colossal immaturity... You're incomprehensible cluelessness... I think you've made it abundantly clear to everyone that you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer... But just for fun.... Could you elucidate for everyone(before you get on the short yellow bus home)where there is any evidence of me being a two dimensional ideologue??? Please be specific.... Edited August 30, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
M.Dancer Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 url="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/08/the_shame_of_alveda_king.html"]The shame of Alveda King[/url][/b] The entirity of her shame is someone doesn't think she should have spoken? Oh the shame of it all! Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shady Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 The entirity of her shame is someone doesn't think she should have spoken? Oh the shame of it all! Exactly. It's his typical alarmist McCarthyism. Quote
waldo Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 The shame of Alveda King Every famous family has a member or three who do things that leave you in "oh no (s)he didn't" disbelief. Usually it's the Jackson family (Michael, not Jesse). Hello? Rebbie? LaToya? Jermain? But they're not in the cross hairs today. That honor goes to the King family (Rev. Dr. Martin, not Rodney). King’s niece, Alveda King, showed up at Glenn Beck’s “Restoring America” rally to frequently invoke the “I have a dream” speech that her “Uncle Martin” immortalized on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial 47 years earlier to the day.The week leading up to the big rally, King had been flogging “Restoring America” as extension of her famous relative’s legacy. Look, it was one thing when Beck proclaimed that he was trying to reclaim the Civil Rights movement. But to be aided and abetted by a King relative, an anti-gay and pro-life one at that? It is Alveda King’s right to do this. And I think she is dead wrong. I wasn’t alive on Aug. 29, 1963. But everything I’ve learned about the man who led the movement that made an appointment with destiny that day in Washington leads me to think that he wouldn’t appreciate a little-known relative claiming to speak for him while lending the (extended) family name and the credibility that accrues with it to a person who has so poisoned American political discourse of late. The King children have been known to battle with each other and with other people over the monetary value of the words and image of their father. Dr. King’s legacy is precious. Alveda King on Saturday besmirched it. The entirity of her shame is someone doesn't think she should have spoken? Oh the shame of it all! the entirety of Alveda King's shame is an embodiment of her extreme right-wing/religious positions... is represented by her willingness to co-opt the real/true MLK dream for her personal gain/agenda... to besmirch the reputation of MLK... to go against the MLK principles of equality, unity, and inclusion... to counter the MLK ideals of justice, freedom, and respect for the dignity of all people... to peddle her views that are diametrically opposed to those held by MLK... to be used by the likes of Beck/Palin to further their personal divisive agendas. yes, most certainly Dancer... as you say, "the shame of it all!" Quote
Shady Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 I think Alveda King's support for the rights of the unborn are absolutely in line with civil rights in general. I also think Rev. Martin Luther King would take a similar stand. The shame that this far-left partisan writer from the Washington Post refers to doesn't really exist. Quote
Pliny Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) pathetic try Pliny... perhaps you need a roadmap... perhaps you could start with a lil' ole research on Alveda King and the weeks lead-up on how Beck used/abused her to promote his "I have a scheme" rally as some presumptive show of racial inclusiveness... an inclusiveness that most certainly was absent amongst the all-whitely mad-tea hatter crowd that rallied to the Beck/Palin-a-palooza. as for your "white-knight" charge to push back against your trumped up pejorative... The shame of Alveda King You lose on both counts, Waldo. 1. There were Blacks there. 2. You can't distance yourself from your inflective invective. Ahhh...someone trying to discredit Alveda King. I suppose I could dig up a dis on any celebrity - or well known figure - someone's bound to have written an op-ed somewhere. One with facts even. How opportune? Pathetic??? Trying a little oneupmanship? Edited August 30, 2010 by Pliny Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Shady Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 Waldo's estimate was a little bit off. He probably used some of that bad climate data from EAU. Brian Williams Says NBC News Estimates Beck Rally Crowd at 300,000 Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) You lose on both counts, Waldo. 1. There were Blacks there. 2. You can't distance yourself from your inflective invective. Ahhh...someone trying to discredit Alveda King. I suppose I could dig up a dis on any celebrity - or well known figure - someone's bound to have written an op-ed somewhere. One with facts even. How opportune? Pathetic??? Trying a little oneupmanship? I agree there were some black folks there...Probably about the same percentage that make up the demographic of Blacks watching Fox news (about 1.5%)... And I agree that Ms.King can back whomever she wants... I wonder,though,why attendees were told to not bring signs and had to be told to be positive??? I wonder if they had brought their placards,and the usual hard right Tea Party invective,they might have exposed themselves to a greater degree than they already have?? Let's all await Professor Kitzel's(Shady) clueless,Beck/Limbaughesque clueless retort,shall we? Or will he try a drive by on the board outside??? Edited August 30, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Pliny Posted August 30, 2010 Report Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) the entirety of Alveda King's shame is an embodiment of her extreme right-wing/religious positions... is represented by her willingness to co-opt the real/true MLK dream for her personal gain/agenda... to besmirch the reputation of MLK... to go against the MLK principles of equality, unity, and inclusion... to counter the MLK ideals of justice, freedom, and respect for the dignity of all people... to peddle her views that are diametrically opposed to those held by MLK... to be used by the likes of Beck/Palin to further their personal divisive agendas. yes, most certainly Dancer... as you say, "the shame of it all!" Gosh! You sound so sincere, Waldo. like you really, really care. I get it though, when you talk about "equality" you mean bringing people down a notch or two. MLK wanted to bring his people up a notch or two. When you talk about "unity" you mean Blacks should recognize how they have been victimized and white society should feel guilty, it's the only way we can have unity. MLK meant we should work together. When you talk about "inclusion" you mean make sure everyone knows there place. MLK meant people like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck were people and included. You seem to just want to use MLK to further your diametrically opposed agenda. You're the kind of guy who understands things like "affirmative action". As long as the people who benefit from it understand they are in the position they are because of your graciousness and they are grateful for it then it serves it's purpose - otherwise what's the point! You could use it to bash nasty right wing whiteys who just wanted equality for all, I suppose Edited August 31, 2010 by Pliny Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Shady Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 Anyone else watching The O'Reily Factor? Glen Beck and Al Sharpton are on. So far it's been pretty good. I didn't realize that on saturday, Beck had priests, rabbis and imams as part of his rally. Quote
punked Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) Waldo's estimate was a little bit off. He probably used some of that bad climate data from EAU. Brian Williams Says NBC News Estimates Beck Rally Crowd at 300,000 So from now on I don't want to hear anything when NBC or MSNBC reports something if this is who you chose to Listen to and defend. If you do insult them then I know this is all just spin from a petty petty person. Again CBS says it was 80,000. You might not know this but the 80,000 number is the ONLY NUMBER calculated from an areal picture by experts everything else was a guess from "feel". I will take the actual calculation. Here is explanation something Shady doesn't have. http://stevedoig.com/archives/250 Edited August 31, 2010 by punked Quote
waldo Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 So from now on I don't want to hear anything when NBC or MSNBC reports something if this is who you chose to Listen to and defend. If you do insult them then I know this is all just spin from a petty petty person. Again CBS says it was 80,000. You might not know this but the 80,000 number is the ONLY NUMBER calculated from an areal picture by experts everything else was a guess from "feel". I will take the actual calculation.Here is explanation something Shady doesn't have. http://stevedoig.com/archives/250 Shady practices don't allow for method based approaches to estimate crowd numbers... clearly, Shady confidence is one predicated on wild ass guesses - naturally. Quote
punked Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 Shady practices don't allow for method based approaches to estimate crowd numbers... clearly, Shady confidence is one predicated on wild ass guesses - naturally. Yes I notice after reading this explanation of the crowd size guess I am now convinced it was 80,000. Quote
waldo Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 Gosh! You sound so sincere, Waldo. like you really, really care. I get it though, when you talk about "equality" you mean bringing people down a notch or two. MLK wanted to bring his people up a notch or two. When you talk about "unity" you mean Blacks should recognize how they have been victimized and white society should feel guilty, it's the only way we can have unity. MLK meant we should work together. When you talk about "inclusion" you mean make sure everyone knows there place. MLK meant people like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck were people and included. You seem to just want to use MLK to further your diametrically opposed agenda. You're the kind of guy who understands things like "affirmative action". As long as the people who benefit from it understand they are in the position they are because of your graciousness and they are grateful for it then it serves it's purpose - otherwise what's the point! You could use it to bash nasty right wing whiteys who just wanted equality for all, I suppose Pliny, you really need a break... I truly feel a pang of regret over the many... many... many, ass-kickings I've laid on you. Clearly, I had no inkling that your ultra-sensitivities would cause you to wildly thrash about in a attempt to drudge up and falsely assign pejorative/invective where none exist. Ya ya, Pliny... MLK was all about the inclusive of divisive types like Beck/Palin Quote
Shady Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 In waldo's world, people who agree with what he thinks are "inclusive." People that don't agree with what he thinks are "divisive." This clown gets funnier and funnier by the day! Quote
Shady Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 Yes I notice after reading this explanation of the crowd size guess I am now convinced it was 80,000. Even CBS said more than 80,000. But I guess whatever Steve Doig says, you take as gospel. Btw, who the hell is Steve Doig? Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) In waldo's world, people who agree with what he thinks are "inclusive." People that don't agree with what he thinks are "divisive." This clown gets funnier and funnier by the day! You calling anyone a clown is about as funny as it gets,Professor Kitzel... Speaking of being made to look like a clown... Have you come up with that evidence yet that incriminates me as a two dimensional ideologue,like you claimed I am? If you have,please be specific... Edited August 31, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 You calling anyone a clown is about as funny as it gets,Professor Kitzel... Speaking of being made to look like a clown... Have you come up with that evidence yet that incriminates me as a two dimensional ideologue,like you claimed I am? If you have,please be specific... A two-dimensional ideologue isn't so bad. There's lots of space for different ideas on a whole two dimensional surface. It's the one dimensional ones that are really bad... Quote
Pliny Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) Pliny, you really need a break... I truly feel a pang of regret over the many... many... many, ass-kickings I've laid on you. Clearly, I had no inkling that your ultra-sensitivities would cause you to wildly thrash about in a attempt to drudge up and falsely assign pejorative/invective where none exist. Ya ya, Pliny... MLK was all about the inclusive of divisive types like Beck/Palin You do have dreams! You should really apologize to the Blacks for your insensitive, mocking remarks. If you don't see it you're more of a true-believer in your own self-righteousness and superiority than I thought. You could have at least tried to handle the contents of the post. There was n refutation so I guess I was right on the money. Edited August 31, 2010 by Pliny Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
jefferiah Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 1. There were Blacks there. I don't understand why this is an issue anyways - how many people of a certain race attended. People who support the ideals of the rally attended. Whether or not they happen to be black or not is irrelevant. They are not keeping black people out of the rally, I am sure. And the message is not a racist one. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
Jack Weber Posted August 31, 2010 Report Posted August 31, 2010 A two-dimensional ideologue isn't so bad. There's lots of space for different ideas on a whole two dimensional surface. It's the one dimensional ones that are really bad... I have no idea what a one dimensional ideologue is...I can't fathom a scenario where it's even possible... Two dimensional ideologues tend to see things as an either/or proposition... I tend not to..I tend to see things as different shades of gray,with a fair amount of nuance. Professor Kitzel(Shady) has claimed I'm a two dimensional ideologue...I've asked him to prove it publicly and he has yet to do so.His few efforts could best be described as feeble,at best... Frankly,I'm not shocked as this is'nt the first time I've caught him in one of his "foot in mouth" moments,however... It would be nice if he would be able to back up what he claims others are with actual proof... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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