fellowtraveller Posted September 1, 2010 Report Posted September 1, 2010 [ The movie is getting the sort of raves that a quirky family drama receives every three or four years; it's being marketed as something, well, truly special. That is surprising, getting raves...not from me. I'd rate Kids Are Alright as average, and in a surprising turn agree with the OP that the acting is better than the script. What is particularly tiresome is the archaic notion that marital strife would be different for a gay couple, or that their children would be less affected than straight couples offspring. 'Different ' is the wrong word, maybe 'interesting is a better one. This movie would be groundbreaking in 1985, today it rates a 'so what?'. What kind of ruined it for me for me was the action of Juliane Moores character, it did not ring true and neither did her guilty exposition after the dirty deed. Of all the good performances here, her lines were the least interesting and believable. What I did like was the director allowing Moore and Bening to look their age onscreen. They are still attractive women, but they have not been buffed and waxed for these roles. It is still worth renting , or wait for it on cable. Two movies I really liked lately: Get Low and Winters Bone. Quote The government should do something.
August1991 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 Nominated for Best Picture: However, The King's Speech faces formidable competition on all fronts.Its best picture rivals are a familiar list of titles, all praised on critics' year-end lists and in recent award shows: •Facebook tale The Social Network •Dance thriller Black Swan •Boxing drama The Fighter •Sci-fi blockbuster Inception •Contemporary family drama The Kids Are All Right •True-life survival tale 127 Hours •Animated tale Toy Story 3 •Revamped western True Grit •Ozarks crime thriller Winter's Bone CBCI wouldn't be surprised if ths movie wins Best Picture. Quote
sharkman Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Hollywood is so out of touch it wouldn't surprise me. But The Fighter was a pretty decent movie with some amazing acting. Bale was jaw dropping, and Walberg surprised me. Nothing messes people up like a good drug addiction. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 Ozarks crime thriller Winter's Bone where do you get this crap? Winters Bone is not a crime thriller. It is an excellent, low key movie with what should be Best Actress Oscar for unknown Jennifer Lawrence. Quote The government should do something.
Shakeyhands Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) The Who, Small Faces, Kinks, Merton Parkas, The Jam... God love the Original Mods and the 80's Mod revival. Modernists were and are where it's at. The styles and attitudes keep popping up every few years. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v273/134/95/786485252/n786485252_3580119_1649.jpg Yours truely in about '85 Quadrophenia was and is one of the best movies ever made Edited January 29, 2011 by Shakeyhands Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Jack Weber Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 The Who, Small Faces, Kinks, Merton Parkas, The Jam... God love the Original Mods and the 80's Mod revival. Modernists were and are where it's at. The styles and attitudes keep popping up every few years. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v273/134/95/786485252/n786485252_3580119_1649.jpg Yours truely in about '85 Quadrophenia was and is one of the best movies ever made Canneling Sting and his Vespa?? Actually,I think The Who was far better once they shed their "Mod" look and sound and went towards more hard hitting,introspective Rock& Roll... The Who was at their absolute best from '68 until Moon's death. Ditto for The Kinks... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shakeyhands Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 Canneling Sting and his Vespa?? Well.. it's better than channeling Jimmy or say Chalkie!!! Actually,I think The Who was far better once they shed their "Mod" look and sound and went towards more hard hitting,introspective Rock& Roll... Bite. Your. Tongue. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Jack Weber Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 Well.. it's better than channeling Jimmy or say Chalkie!!! Bite. Your. Tongue. Real Rock is far better than puffed up teen idol music... The Who,post-Monterey,was light years better than anything they were before... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
BubberMiley Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 The Who peaked with "I Can See for Miles." Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Jack Weber Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 The Who peaked with "I Can See for Miles." Wrong... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
BubberMiley Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 After that it was all Daltry hair and CSI themes and coke-fuelled excess. And there was no better song than "I Can See for Miles." How can you defend an era that produced "Squeeze Box?" Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Jack Weber Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) After that it was all Daltry hair and CSI themes and coke-fuelled excess. And there was no better song than "I Can See for Miles." How can you defend an era that produced "Squeeze Box?" Hey...Townsheand,Daltry,Entwistle,and,Moon cannot be held responsible for what a TV show does with their instantly recognizable and iconic songs... I'll give you Squeeze Box... I see you're 'I can See For Miles' and raise you a: Won't Get Fooled Again Young Mans Blues Baba O'Reilly Who Are You The Real Me 5:15 I've got a few more,if you like.. Edited January 30, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
BubberMiley Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 I've got a few more,if you like.. All Daltry big-hair howling songs that make good CSI themes. "I Can See for Miles" showcased Keith Moon's drumming (and Entwistle's bass playing) at its very best. It's got some of Townshend's best guitar work and songwriting. And best of all, Daltry's voice is restrained and, therefore, sounds great. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Jack Weber Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) All Daltry big-hair howling songs that make good CSI themes. "I Can See for Miles" showcased Keith Moon's drumming (and Entwistle's bass playing) at its very best. It's got some of Townshend's best guitar work and songwriting. And best of all, Daltry's voice is restrained and, therefore, sounds great. Young Mans blues has hardly any lyrics..It's mostly instrumental... A Quick One (While He's Away) is more about Moon's drumming and Townshend's burgeoning songwriting chops than Daltry's singing... Edited January 30, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
BubberMiley Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) Young Mans blues has hardly any lyrics..It's mostly instrumental... Daltry still ruined that one for me (and he sang plenty in it). Not that I don't think he's a great singer. He is when he doesn't wail. And he only started to wail all the time with Who's Next. He sang well through Tommy but by the time of the movie soundtrack, his style changed completely. And he was still singing fine when the album A Quick One came out. Though that album is weak. I think my favourite song on it is the one Keith Moon wrote (and sang well). Edited January 30, 2011 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
kimmy Posted January 30, 2011 Report Posted January 30, 2011 Hollywood is so out of touch it wouldn't surprise me. But The Fighter was a pretty decent movie with some amazing acting. Bale was jaw dropping, and Walberg surprised me. Nothing messes people up like a good drug addiction. I think Wahlberg is better than people give him credit for. He tends to get a lot of blue-collar hero type roles, but he's capable of doing more. The last movie I saw him in was The Lovely Bones, and I thought he was really believable as the father who never emotionally recovers from his daughter's disappearance. (The Lovely Bones was kind of a trainwreck because Peter Jackson wanted it to be 5 different kinds of movies at the same time... but the cast was all very strong, particularly Wahlberg as the heartbroken father, Saorise Ronan as the main character, and especially Stanley Tucci as the creepy guy down the street.) where do you get this crap? Winters Bone is not a crime thriller. It is an excellent, low key movie with what should be Best Actress Oscar for unknown Jennifer Lawrence. Don't blame August... he cut-and-pasted that straight from the CBC article he linked to. I'm watching this movie later today. I've read nothing but good things about it. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
bloodyminded Posted February 2, 2011 Report Posted February 2, 2011 I think Wahlberg is better than people give him credit for. He tends to get a lot of blue-collar hero type roles, but he's capable of doing more. The last movie I saw him in was The Lovely Bones, and I thought he was really believable as the father who never emotionally recovers from his daughter's disappearance. (The Lovely Bones was kind of a trainwreck because Peter Jackson wanted it to be 5 different kinds of movies at the same time... but the cast was all very strong, particularly Wahlberg as the heartbroken father, Saorise Ronan as the main character, and especially Stanley Tucci as the creepy guy down the street.) -k I think you're on to something here. This is a rare movie for me, in that there's much I didn't like, and yet I have trouble pinning down exactly what I find objectionable. As you say, maybe there's some sort of lack of focus, so that neither the grief, the horror, nor the soothing aspects of the movie ever gain a good foothold. But really good cast, I agree. And the moment just before the girl's murder is well done, disturbing as hell. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
kimmy Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 where do you get this crap? Winters Bone is not a crime thriller. It is an excellent, low key movie with what should be Best Actress Oscar for unknown Jennifer Lawrence. I did watch Winter's Bone, and I think it's an incredible movie. The setting is amazing. It's almost like a foreign country with a completely alien culture. The movie creates a sense of the people and the place so convincingly that I almost felt like I had been there. I don't know if Jennifer Lawrence is an outstanding actress, or if it was just the result of a really compelling character and a really strong script. Whichever the case, I think Ree Dolly is one of the best movie characters I've seen in a long time, and I found myself really emotionally involved in her story. She's 17 and she's been given all of this to deal with, and she knows full well she's probably going to get hurt or killed but she pushes ahead anyway without a second thought, because her set of values simply doesn't permit anything else. The hopelessness of her situation was really depressing for me... the realization that even if she succeeds, she's still in a miserable situation. That she seems to accept that without a moment's thought about herself makes her either heroic or tragic, I'm still not sure which. Spending a couple of hours with Ree Dolly and her messed up extended family actually left me feeling a little rattled. I think you're on to something here. This is a rare movie for me, in that there's much I didn't like, and yet I have trouble pinning down exactly what I find objectionable. As you say, maybe there's some sort of lack of focus, so that neither the grief, the horror, nor the soothing aspects of the movie ever gain a good foothold. But really good cast, I agree. And the moment just before the girl's murder is well done, disturbing as hell. I found that scene extremely unsettling to watch, probably in some part because she bears an uncanny resemblance to myself at that age. I think Peter Jackson just tried to do too much in the space of 2 hours. Michael Imperioli's detective role, in particular, didn't have much to do with the heart of the story and never really led anywhere. I also thought they spent too much time in her afterlife. I thought the Magritte/Dali surrealism was kind of cool, but I wasn't that interested in watching her running through fields or frolicking with her little friend in that afterworld. To me, the heart of the story was: -Susie watching her family try to carry on without her. -Susie watching her annoying little sister grow up to become the woman that she herself never got to become. -us, the viewer, wanting to see creepy-dude get what's coming. I thought that worked pretty well... it almost seemed like he was going to get away with it, didn't it? I never read the book, which I gather is widely beloved, but to me those were the elements of the movie that I thought were the strongest, and I think he could have made it a better film had he stayed more with those aspects. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
August1991 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) The Who peaked with "I Can See for Miles."Would you guys move this discussion elsewhere? The Who?If this movie wins Best Picture, your posts will look dated, and ridiculous. I think Wahlberg is better than people give him credit for.I agree. I also think that Wahlberg makes sense in interviews because he follows Mark Twain. He tells the truth.I haven't seen The Fighter, but it's on my list. Edited February 4, 2011 by August1991 Quote
bloodyminded Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 I found that scene extremely unsettling to watch, probably in some part because she bears an uncanny resemblance to myself at that age. I think Peter Jackson just tried to do too much in the space of 2 hours. Michael Imperioli's detective role, in particular, didn't have much to do with the heart of the story and never really led anywhere. I also thought they spent too much time in her afterlife. I thought the Magritte/Dali surrealism was kind of cool, but I wasn't that interested in watching her running through fields or frolicking with her little friend in that afterworld. No, me either. And again, it's not that I hated this; it just didn't work for me. To me, the heart of the story was: -Susie watching her family try to carry on without her. -Susie watching her annoying little sister grow up to become the woman that she herself never got to become. -us, the viewer, wanting to see creepy-dude get what's coming. I thought that worked pretty well... it almost seemed like he was going to get away with it, didn't it? Yeah, I fucking hated that guy. So, that was nicely done. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
BubberMiley Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 Would you guys move this discussion elsewhere? The Who? If this movie wins Best Picture, your posts will look dated, and ridiculous. When you realize the movie you want to talk about is called "The Kids are All Right" and the Who movie is, like your thread title, "The Kids are Alright", I think you will feel even more ridiculous. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
kimmy Posted February 5, 2011 Report Posted February 5, 2011 When you realize the movie you want to talk about is called "The Kids are All Right" and the Who movie is, like your thread title, "The Kids are Alright", I think you will feel even more ridiculous. I think he's annoyed that a thread about this year's Oscar-nominated movie got derailed into yet another inane thread about The Who. It seems like there are already half a dozen The Who threads on this board, which is more than enough. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2011 Report Posted February 5, 2011 It seems like there are already half a dozen The Who threads on this board, which is more than enough. Really? Where? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Jack Weber Posted February 5, 2011 Report Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) I think he's annoyed that a thread about this year's Oscar-nominated movie got derailed into yet another inane thread about The Who. It seems like there are already half a dozen The Who threads on this board, which is more than enough. -k 1.There is NEVER ENOUGH WHO MUSIC!!!!! 2. The Who are never inane!!!! 3.I see zero (0) threads about The Who! He can be annoyed all he wants.Frankly,I'm not the only one who thought he was originally talking about the late '70's documentary about the band.Your very own,"Voice of reason"...Toadbrother...Thought the same as well! I kinda like how this thread has actually morphed into 2 distinct threads... 1.About a movie I really have no interest in seeing... 2.About one of the greatest Rock bands of all time,and dare I say,the GREATEST live act EVER!!! Go ahead and discuss your movie.... We'll discuss The Who!!! Edited February 5, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted February 5, 2011 Report Posted February 5, 2011 When you realize the movie you want to talk about is called "The Kids are All Right" and the Who movie is, like your thread title, "The Kids are Alright", I think you will feel even more ridiculous. Spot on!!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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