DogOnPorch Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) I recall a time when non-religious people not only didn't defend religion, but they were critical of it. Now, apparently, those same people feel a need to defend Islam. And only Islam. No matter what. And anyone who doesn't, is intolerant; a bigot. Indeed. If one enountered any other cult that had as its model of perfection, a violent old pervert with a taste for girls under 18...errrr...10...that would normally be enough to get 100% condemnation across the boards. Instead I'm given relativism...stories about predetory priests and dead abortion doctors like some how that makes the former OK. Or...mom and apple pie statements about how religion in general is pretty dumb. DOP: Gee...that man over there is whipping that woman for talking to that other man!Relativist 1: All religions do stuff like this. Relativist 2: She must have really done something bad to make that man with the whip mad. Relativist 3: Catholic priests diddle little choir boys. Edited August 13, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 I'd love to see all religions go by the wayside, once that happens the world can reach another stage of enlightenment. But that is not happening anytime soon, so instead we (well me) point out the hypocrisy of one religion telling another that they are no good because of a few asshats in the ranks. Every religion has its asshats. I know a couple asshats that say I'll be saved if I send them a check for $1000. Anyone who believes in a sky god or any type to me is grossly misguided. No matter what religion they follow. Islam, Christianity Judaism, does not matter, they are all misguided. However I will say that if a certain religion works for you, then go for it, because to me that certainly matters. So is Darwinian Humanism...See Karl Marx and "enlightened" Fascists... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
GostHacked Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 So is Darwinian Humanism...See Karl Marx and "enlightened" Fascists... Darwinian Humanism does not deal with a sky god. It actually worships (if you want to call it worship) a real man. Darwin. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 It's inherently obvious... You're lack of a date tonight is inherently obvious. What is not so is your 'whites converting to Islam' cryptic statement. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) Darwinian Humanism does not deal with a sky god. It actually worships (if you want to call it worship) a real man. Darwin. And it is a failed construct..See the body count over the last 100 or so years caused by the adherents to the Doctrine of Charles Darwin... By the way,I'm hating on Darwin specifically.He did'nt want to publish The Origin of Species,not only because of the uproar it would cause,but because his wife was a devout Christian. His assistant,Mr.Galton,on the other hand...Could'nt wait to introduce the findings for obvious reasons... Edited August 13, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Guest American Woman Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 It has more to do with the Left's anti-American sentiment than sticking up for Islam... I am "the Left," and I am American, so it makes no sense to me........ Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 I am "the Left," and I am American, so it makes no sense to me........ I mean the extreme left that demonstrates against Israel,because it really hates American involvement in the region.The "Homo's for Hamas" types...etc... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Guest American Woman Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) I'd love to see all religions go by the wayside, once that happens the world can reach another stage of enlightenment. But that is not happening anytime soon, so instead we (well me) point out the hypocrisy of one religion telling another that they are no good because of a few asshats in the ranks. Every religion has its asshats. Yet you have no problem telling every other religion that they have "asshats," but can't say it about Islam. The religion that right now has it's share of not only "asshats," but murderers. I know a couple asshats that say I'll be saved if I send them a check for $1000. Would they love to see you dead? I have no problem with "asshats" who ask me for money. I can say no. I do, however, have a big problem with "asshats" who have murdered and would love to continue to murder. Innocent people. Anyone who believes in a sky god or any type to me is grossly misguided. No matter what religion they follow. Islam, Christianity Judaism, does not matter, they are all misguided. That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, but believing what you do, I have to really question why you defend the one religion that has declared a jihad, to kill as many infidels as possible, and is proceeding to do just that. Makes no sense at all. At least to anyone who possesses "sense." However I will say that if a certain religion works for you, then go for it, because to me that certainly matters. Who's saying otherwise? But apparently you think that in order to have that viewpoint, you have to not only be tolerant of, but defensive of, everything associated with a certain religion (if that religion is Islam,) which is nuts. And again, you have no problem agreeing with me in that regard when the religion in question is anything other than Islam. Edited August 13, 2010 by American Woman Quote
dre Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 And it is a failed construct..See the body count over the last 100 or so years caused by the adherents to the Doctrine of Charles Darwin... By the way,I'm hating on Darwin specifically.He did'nt want to publish The Origin of Species,not only because of the uproar it would cause,but because his wife was a devout Christian. His assistant,Mr.Galton,on the other hand...Could'nt wait to introduce the findings for obvious reasons... And it is a failed construct..See the body count over the last 100 or so years caused by the adherents to the Doctrine of Charles Darwin... Iv seen the argument made over and over again... its pretty fallacious. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 I have to really question why you defend the one religion that has declared a jihad I dont know of a "religion" that declared a jihad... Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Sir Bandelot Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 You're lack of a date tonight is inherently obvious. What is not so is your 'whites converting to Islam' cryptic statement. here dog, fetch the stick Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 here dog, fetch the stick Are you trollin' for a date??? Maybe you should stick to the Church street area of Toronto... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 Darwinian Humanism does not deal with a sky god. It actually worships (if you want to call it worship) a real man. Darwin. People actually worship Darwin? And it is a failed construct..See the body count over the last 100 or so years caused by the adherents to the Doctrine of Charles Darwin... By the way,I'm hating on Darwin specifically.He did'nt want to publish The Origin of Species,not only because of the uproar it would cause,but because his wife was a devout Christian. His assistant,Mr.Galton,on the other hand...Could'nt wait to introduce the findings for obvious reasons... That's funny. Wait are you serious? Darwin didn't care about the uproar, he published it as soon as he was sure of his findings and able to. Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 People actually worship Darwin? That's funny. Wait are you serious? Darwin didn't care about the uproar, he published it as soon as he was sure of his findings and able to. Maybe retiscent is a better word...Darwin knew what his findings would cause... Mr.Galton wanted them published right away.Mr.Galton was also a virulent bigot.. Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 Maybe retiscent is a better word...Darwin knew what his findings would cause... Mr.Galton wanted them published right away.Mr.Galton was also a virulent bigot.. And like a good scientist he didn't care, and despite what you seem to think Galton didn't have any say in the publishing of The Origin of Species. He probably didn't even know about it before it was published. And of course Galton was a bigot, pretty much everyone at the time was. I mean they actually thought that the different races where different species of humans. Something which Darwin smacked down pretty quick. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted August 13, 2010 Report Posted August 13, 2010 Are you trollin' for a date??? Maybe you should stick to the Church street area of Toronto... Not at all. Clearly my wit is too high-brow for this crowd. Quote
jbg Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 I'm good with mosques being built since this is America. We should be asking when the next time a temple or church goes up in Riyadh. Just for good measure. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Sir Bandelot Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 I'm good with mosques being built since this is America. We should be asking when the next time a temple or church goes up in Riyadh. Just for good measure. Probably, right after they finish building a Saudi military base on the New Jersey peninsula. Quote
jbg Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 (edited) Probably, right after they finish building a Saudi military base on the New Jersey peninsula. Synagogues and churches are not military establishments. The Prime Minister of Turkey "had publicly read an Islamic poem including the lines: "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers..." (link). Nothing like that in Judaism or modern-day Christianity. Edited August 14, 2010 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest American Woman Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 Probably, right after they finish building a Saudi military base on the New Jersey peninsula. The U.S. troops left when Saudi Arabia no longer wanted them there. So, since you're comparing military presence to religious presence, and I'm quite sure you had no problem with S.A. asking the U.S. troops to leave, one can only assume that you'd have no problem with the U.S. asking Muslims to leave. Either that, or you realize that your comparison isn't a comparison. Quote
kimmy Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 Probably, right after they finish building a Saudi military base on the New Jersey peninsula. Another example of your highbrow wit, clearly. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
BubberMiley Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 Nothing like that in Judaism or modern-day Christianity. Heavens, no. They never resorted to analogies at all. Onward, christian soldiers, marching as to war... Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Sir Bandelot Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 Yeah they go as far as letting you build military bases right in their country, had them there for years and used to to launch air and missile strikes. How's that for trust and cooperation. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 Military Bases - these are your houses of the holy. It's what you Americans understand and are programmed to accept from birth. So that there will not be any question about the agenda, from the vast majority if the indoctrinated. "And the rockets red glare" hand placed on heart... Quote
Guest American Woman Posted August 14, 2010 Report Posted August 14, 2010 Yeah they go as far as letting you build military bases right in their country, had them there for years and used to to launch air and missile strikes. How's that for trust and cooperation. It's a good example of allies working together, since it benefited them at the time, too, but it has absolutely nothing to do with tolerance/religious tolerance, which is the actual issue. Not military cooperation. Quote
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