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Greg explains his proposal:

I really like the idea of 72 virgin drinks!

*Update*

The Cordoba Group has responsed to the proposed bar:

"You’re free to open whatever you like. If you won’t consider the sensibilities of Muslims, you’re not going to build dialog."

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*Update*

My 'Irony Metre' just broke. :(

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Posted (edited)

Greg explains his proposal:

I really like the idea of 72 virgin drinks!

*Update*

The Cordoba Group has responsed to the proposed bar:

*Update*

My 'Irony Metre' just broke. :(

I think it should be named after Gutfeld himself, since it's his disingenuous proposal. Maybe "Teabagger Express."

Not that I imagine he'd like that very much.

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As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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I think it should be named after Gutfeld himself, since it's his disingenuous proposal. Maybe "Teabagger Express."

Not that I imagine he'd like that very much.

That's not a bad name either. However, you dont sound like somebody who's interested in building dialog. If you don't get behind (pun intended) the idea of this gay bar, you obviously hate gay people.

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That's not a bad name either. However, you dont sound like somebody who's interested in building dialog. If you don't get behind (pun intended) the idea of this gay bar, you obviously hate gay people.

Why do I get the feeling that the so-called "proponents" of this "idea" themselves don't much care for gay people?

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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Kinda silly, kinda funny but in no way could this be construed as an effort to reach out.

Anyhoo...

Agreed. I have no objections to it myself, but those who are proposing it don't seem to genuine on the idea, seems more out of spite. Even the crazed Beck backs away from it in the video Shady posted.

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In the interest of promoting dialogue, there's no need to keep with Islamic themes.

How about:

Well-Hanged Jesus

Go Down Moses

Blow Job

Talmud-Wood

Christ and His Asspistols

The Diddly-Lama

Zionjism

For the S&M fetishists:

Mohels

Crucifucktion

:)

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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Kinda silly, kinda funny but in no way could this be construed as an effort to reach out.

Anyhoo...

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Cordoba House: "You’re free to open whatever you like. If you won’t consider the sensibilities of Muslims, you’re not going to build dialog."

While the idea is also provocative (a gay bar for Muslims) I think most of us are aware of the so-called Islamic World's attitude towards gays (throw them from the highest cliff). What about the 'sensibilities' of gay Muslims? Or are they a small enough group that they can be marginalized in order to have 'community cohesion'?

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While the idea is also provocative (a gay bar for Muslims) I think most of us are aware of the so-called Islamic World's attitude towards gays (throw them from the highest cliff). What about the 'sensibilities' of gay Muslims? Or are they a small enough group that they can be marginalized in order to have 'community cohesion'?

I'll grant you the irony part - in that sensibilities are obviously not being considered as much as they should be (in the original issue w.r.t. the mosque) but... this is more of an aggressive response - not helpful.

 

Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase !

Michael Hardner

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I'll grant you the irony part - in that sensibilities are obviously not being considered as much as they should be (in the original issue w.r.t. the mosque) but... this is more of an aggressive response - not helpful.

Interesting. Because that's exactly how most people in New York feel about the Islamic Center proposal. An act of aggression that's not helpful. Now it might not be an act of aggression, but it's hard to argue that it's having the exact opposite effect of the desired "bridge building."

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I'll grant you the irony part - in that sensibilities are obviously not being considered as much as they should be (in the original issue w.r.t. the mosque) but... this is more of an aggressive response - not helpful.

Frankly, building a mosque...sorry...Muslim community outreach centre...in the so-called ashes of 9-11 might be viewed as an aggressive response in itself. Not helpful.

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Frankly, building a mosque...sorry...Muslim community outreach centre...in the so-called ashes of 9-11 might be viewed as an aggressive response in itself. Not helpful.

Invading Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 was not helpful (aggressive reaction to 9/11)

Hijacking planes for the 9/11 attacks were not helpful. (aggressive reaction the US/CIA meddling in other countries)

CIA operations around the world have not been helpful. (assisting the Muhajedeen which turned into Al-Queda, initially to fend of the Soviets)

??

Tit, tat, tit, tat, it goes back.

Posted (edited)

Invading Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 was not helpful (aggressive reaction to 9/11)

Hijacking planes for the 9/11 attacks were not helpful. (aggressive reaction the US/CIA meddling in other countries)

CIA operations around the world have not been helpful. (assisting the Muhajedeen which turned into Al-Queda, initially to fend of the Soviets)

??

Tit, tat, tit, tat, it goes back.

This is a response to a discussion of proposed mosque and bar sites? You've clearly lost your mind. :blink:

And speaking of hijacking. Thanks for hijacking my thread with your lunacy.

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Invading Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 was not helpful (aggressive reaction to 9/11)

Hijacking planes for the 9/11 attacks were not helpful. (aggressive reaction the US/CIA meddling in other countries)

CIA operations around the world have not been helpful. (assisting the Muhajedeen which turned into Al-Queda, initially to fend of the Soviets)

??

Tit, tat, tit, tat, it goes back.

Eh? Not sure what you're aiming at here. Had 9-11 not happened, Iraq would still be a brutal dictatorship and Afghanistan would happily be stoning women in yon football field. The baddies of the planet were cruisin' for a brusin' as the saying goes. 9-11 made the average American (and their allies) go: "Huh? Muslims? Muslim terrorists attacking NYC??? Washington DC??? WTF???? Warm-up the B-52s." It's not like America woke up one Monday morning and decided the Taliban had to go.

Posted (edited)

Invading Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 was not helpful (aggressive reaction to 9/11)

Hijacking planes for the 9/11 attacks were not helpful. (aggressive reaction the US/CIA meddling in other countries)

CIA operations around the world have not been helpful. (assisting the Muhajedeen which turned into Al-Queda, initially to fend of the Soviets)

??

Tit, tat, tit, tat, it goes back.

Sure....but the idea (and i realize you didn't make this claim anyway) that the proposed outreach center is "aggression" is sheer speculation, and totally unsupported by anything but supposition.

Whereas the intentionally provocative response is aggressive, by design.

It's as if you said to a long-time enemy: "Alright, let's try to build a dialogue."

To which he replied, "Sure, faggot, but not too close to the Holy site!"

So far, Muslims have remained much more restrained, mature and civil about this issue. I assume the desire here is to hope to provoke some Muslims into saying some terrible things (in response to directed rhetorical aggression); after which, provocateurs can say "I told you so," with post facto justification.

Edited by bloodyminded

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

Posted (edited)

So far, Muslims have remained much more restrained, mature and civil about this issue. I assume the desire here is to hope to provoke some Muslims into saying some terrible things (in response to directed rhetorical aggression); after which, provocateurs can say "I told you so," with post facto justification.

No. The desire is to promote more understanding and tolerance amoungst Muslims regarding the homosexual community.

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No. The desire is to promote more understanding and tolerance amoungst Mulims regarding the homosexual community.

As you well know, that's not the case.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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