charter.rights Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 The federal government is set to give aboriginals a major concession on Ontario’s new harmonized sales tax.... Looks like the point-of-sale exemption for status natives will be continued in Ontario after the HST is implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Looks like natives get another free ride from the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Yeah, the native people are always keeping the white man down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 No surprize Milking the system and letting the elder types hold them back Time they joined the mainstream - they could and would do well if they tried Never happen - too easy to collect It is their culture Borg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 No surprize Milking the system and letting the elder types hold them back Time they joined the mainstream - they could and would do well if they tried Never happen - too easy to collect It is their culture Borg Wrong. It's our culture. They're just trying to navigate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 They're just trying to navigate it. And profit from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 And profit from it. Well, sure, the rest of us never try to profit from anything. The natives have a lot of nerve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Well, sure, the rest of us never try to profit from anything. The natives have a lot of nerve. They profit from other people's work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 They profit from other people's work. So do the Waltons of WalMart fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aankara Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Looks like natives get another free ride from the rest of us. How many more centuries are the people of this country to pay for the acts of those who came here from England and France over 200 years ago??? Yes - some really NASTY stuff happened to the Native people even up until the 1950's - I agree - but when will enough be enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 So do the Waltons of WalMart fame. But the Natives were born into their situation, whereas the Waltons... uh... oh right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 But the Natives were born into their situation, whereas the Waltons... uh... oh right... Ayway, I was half-joking. But only half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Ayway, I was half-joking. But only half. Ah....so you admit to being only half-witted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Ah....so you admit to being only half-witted? Just the good half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 To be fair there are other groups that have an advantage over the regular tax payer. For one, most Ontarians do get something back, compared to B.C. , where they get nothing. Also, farmers get tax credits for the following items, were befotre they didn't. The items are All- terrain vehicles, ammunition,cars, trucks and light vans, automotive trailers, bunkhouses, computer and accessories, clothing for farm use, freezers, refrigerators and lawnmowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 To be fair there are other groups that have an advantage over the regular tax payer. For one, most Ontarians do get something back, compared to B.C. , where they get nothing. Also, farmers get tax credits for the following items, were befotre they didn't. The items are All- terrain vehicles, ammunition,cars, trucks and light vans, automotive trailers, bunkhouses, computer and accessories, clothing for farm use, freezers, refrigerators and lawnmowers. Well, for reasons not clear to me, there is a lot resentment towards the Native people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 They profit from other people's work. That's how captialism works... How many more centuries are the people of this country to pay for the acts of those who came here from England and France over 200 years ago??? Yes - some really NASTY stuff happened to the Native people even up until the 1950's - I agree - but when will enough be enough? They get these types of things because of treaties they negotiated, they got their apologies and some cash for the survivors of those events. This is seperate from that. Although pretty consistantly only one side tend to hold up there end of the deal. Which is why so many First Nation are trying to re-negotiate the treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 A contract is a contract no matter how old - or seemingly dated. The natives must have their rights preserved and reserved. OUR upper class whites pay little in taxes - and by doing so maintain status - the natives have an upper class forming - though they be crooks like our whites it is still a positive thing..what are we to do? Make sure that the little wealth that natives have gotten is taken away - the native elders and hustlers learned from the best - from us... let them prosper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Looks like natives get another free ride from the rest of us. A few tax breaks is probably not a bad trade for an entire continent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 A few tax breaks is probably not a bad trade for an entire continent We won, they lost. Usually the losing side doesn't get treated so well. Just take a look at history. I'd say a completely free education, completely free healthcare, not paying taxes, along with the rights and priviledges everyone else has, is a fairly good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiel Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 We won, they lost. Shady, a lot of tribes were never fought by us, let alone conquered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 We won, they lost. Usually the losing side doesn't get treated so well. Just take a look at history. I'd say a completely free education, completely free healthcare, not paying taxes, along with the rights and priviledges everyone else has, is a fairly good deal. No it wasn't a conquerer/conquered situation it was a equals negotiating terms situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 No it wasn't a conquerer/conquered situation it was a equals negotiating terms situation. Well, they're being treated as more than equals, compared to the rest of Canadians. The rest of us serfs, who have to pay our taxes, and pay for our post-secondary educations, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Well, they're being treated as more than equals, compared to the rest of Canadians. The rest of us serfs, who have to pay our taxes, and pay for our post-secondary educations, etc. Then you should bitch about your ancestors who negotiated it that way. ETA Your also generalizing way to much. Edited June 18, 2010 by TrueMetis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Between residential schools and all of us allowing the holocaust - I guess both groups are entitled to a bit of a free ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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