msdogfood Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) This past week, a license application was filed with the CRTC to create a right wing news channel. The key person for the new channel's business development is Kory Teneycke. As he was the former communications director for Stephen Harper, would he not be covered under the Accountability Act of 2006? If he was, would he not be covered under the lobbying ban which lasts for 5 years after leaving your position in the Federal government as he did in 2008 or 2009? To be fair, we have no idea who filed the CRTC application. Even if his name was not on the application, the position that he currently holds as Vice-President of business development at Quebecor, may necessitate his need to make contact with the CRTC. In this particular case, would it not be considered lobbying as he would want the CRTC to grant him a certain type of license, therefore he would be in active negotiations trying to pitch his business plan to get the license. Wouldn't this force him to inadvertently violate the Accountability Act thus making him vulnerable to criminal charges under that Act? I would really appreciate some feedback on this because one can go easily cross-eyed looking at the Act as well as going through the updated rules on lobbying and public office holders definitions in Parliamentary rules manuals. Thanks Edited June 13, 2010 by msdogfood Quote
Topaz Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 IF Kory is judged to a a senior management worker , than yeah, a very good possibility. BTW, Mulroney is on the board of Quebecor, and I wonder if he wants revenge against those media outlets that bad mouthed him during the trial, Of Course, Quebecor has bought up almost all the papers in Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Accountability_Act Quote
kimmy Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 Applying for a CRTC broadcasting license probably does not qualify as lobbying. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
lukin Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 I have to laugh at all the lefties on here who are so concerned that a TV station that is possibly different from the biased MSM, may launch. You guys are grasping for straws, just like the LPC. This station is going to happen whether you like it or not. Liberals don't like opposing viewpoints to be heard. Liberals preach tolerance but are the most intolerant when someone doesn't think the way they like. TolerantLiberal is an oxymoron. The LPC demanded Stephen Harper fire Helena Guergis. After Harper kicks her out, the Liberals claim Harper was too"mean". It's this kind of flip flopping that causes people to lose respect for the LPC. Quote
msdogfood Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) IF Kory is judged to a a senior management worker , than yeah, a very good possibility. BTW, Mulroney is on the board of Quebecor, and I wonder if he wants revenge against those media outlets that bad mouthed him during the trial, Of Course, Quebecor has bought up almost all the papers in Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Accountability_Act He has a problem five-year lobbying ban on former ministers, their aides, and senior public servants His post at the at the PMO was director of communications. His new job at Quebecor is a VP of business development. How did he miss this???. Edited June 13, 2010 by msdogfood Quote
Jack Weber Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 IF Kory is judged to a a senior management worker , than yeah, a very good possibility. BTW, Mulroney is on the board of Quebecor, and I wonder if he wants revenge against those media outlets that bad mouthed him during the trial, Of Course, Quebecor has bought up almost all the papers in Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Accountability_Act Lyin' Bryan... This just keeps getting better and better... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Topaz Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 I have to laugh at all the lefties on here who are so concerned that a TV station that is possibly different from the biased MSM, may launch. You guys are grasping for straws, just like the LPC. This station is going to happen whether you like it or not. Liberals don't like opposing viewpoints to be heard. Liberals preach tolerance but are the most intolerant when someone doesn't think the way they like. TolerantLiberal is an oxymoron. The LPC demanded Stephen Harper fire Helena Guergis. After Harper kicks her out, the Liberals claim Harper was too"mean". It's this kind of flip flopping that causes people to lose respect for the LPC. I consider myself as an Independent. Of course, the station is going to happen because it will aid the Conservative in every way, the CRTC would never say no to James Moore! The Liberals asked that Guergis be relived from her post NOT thrown out of the party! Don't start the flip-flop thing because the Tories do it too! As far as the new Conservative station, this may just the thing the Libs need to get the voters back and against the Tories. Quote
scribblet Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) I agree about it not qualifying as lobbying, unless applying for a license to CRTC is classed as lobbying - is it? The lefties are sure in a howl over this one LOL what is it they are afraid of, why don't they want opposing opinions? Edited June 13, 2010 by scriblett Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jack Weber Posted June 13, 2010 Report Posted June 13, 2010 I agree about it not qualifying as lobbying, unless applying for a license to CRTC is classed as lobbying - is it? The lefties are sure in a howl over this one LOL what is it they are afraid of, why don't they want opposing opinions? There's plenty of opposing opinions out there... I guess hard line conservatives simply don't have the intellectual capacity to deal with true balance,and prefer an ideological reaffirmation session/echo chamber... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
scribblet Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 There's plenty of opposing opinions out there... I guess hard line conservatives simply don't have the intellectual capacity to deal with true balance,and prefer an ideological reaffirmation session/echo chamber... Oh sure, of course, why didn't I think of that LMAO Actually there are plenty of left wing opinions out there, so a conservative leaning station would be refreshing. - something obviously the left doesn't want people to hear. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jack Weber Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Oh sure, of course, why didn't I think of that LMAO Actually there are plenty of left wing opinions out there, so a conservative leaning station would be refreshing. - something obviously the left doesn't want people to hear. Of course... Because your so ideologically opressed in this country.There's simply nowhere to hear,or read, unbiased left wing reporting... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
scribblet Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Of course... Because your so ideologically opressed in this country.There's simply nowhere to hear,or read, unbiased left wing reporting... I agree, there isn't, it's all biased left wing reporting LOL Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jack Weber Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 I agree, there isn't, it's all biased left wing reporting LOL Yes..Your so opressed... WAH,WAH,WAH.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Keepitsimple Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) Yes..Your so opressed... WAH,WAH,WAH.... I wouldn't say all reporting is LW biased.....but the two largest papers in Canada are the Globe and the Star. The Star is unabashedly maniacally opposed to anything Conservative. It is laughable. I think the G & M is a bit more balanced but leans Left - at least as much as the National Post leans Right. The proof of the Globe's bias can be seen in the online comments that readers leave.....if not usually pro-Liberal (it's hard to be that nowadays), the ratio of negative comments is hugely anti-Conservative. So we have one major paper hugely pro-Left and just as importantly, anti Conservative. And the other major paper leans Left. The National Post is a smaller national paper but I would say it leans heavily right. Cumulatively, that's a heavy pro-Left bias. So it would be nice to see more pro-center/Right commentary.....and in Canada, we wouldn't go overboard - at least no more so that the CBC or The Star. Edited June 14, 2010 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
Smallc Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 I think the G & M is a bit more balanced but leans Left - at least as much as the National Post leans Right. Sure..but with significantly better journalistic content. Quote
Jack Weber Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 I wouldn't say all reporting is LW biased.....but the two largest papers in Canada are the Globe and the Star. The Star is unabashedly maniacally opposed to anything Conservative. It is laughable. I think the G & M is a bit more balanced but leans Left - at least as much as the National Post leans Right. The proof of the Globe's bias can be seen in the online comments that readers leave.....if not usually pro-Liberal (it's hard to be that nowadays), the ratio of negative comments is hugely anti-Conservative. So we have one major paper hugely pro-Left and just as importantly, anti Conservative. And the other major paper leans Left. The National Post is a smaller national paper but I would say it leans heavily right. Cumulatively, that's a heavy pro-Left bias. So it would be nice to see more pro-center/Right commentary.....and in Canada, we wouldn't go overboard - at least no more so that the CBC or The Star. No it's not... You forgot Sun Media and it's generally hard right editorial board...Far more to the right than the National Post! Wrong!There is balance...It's clear that balance is not what alot of conservative types wnat.They want a reaffirmation session/echo chamber so that they don't have to listen to anyone they don't agree with.. It's an infantile position.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
kimmy Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) Still waiting for someone on the crybaby side of this to explain how applying for a broadcasting license qualifies as "lobbying" in the legal sense. -k Edited June 14, 2010 by kimmy Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
kimmy Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Wrong!There is balance...It's clear that balance is not what alot of conservative types wnat.They want a reaffirmation session/echo chamber so that they don't have to listen to anyone they don't agree with.. Wait, leftwingers are campaigning to disallow an application for a station... and it's "conservative types" who don't want to have to listen to anyone they don't agree with?? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
lukin Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Sure..but with significantly better journalistic content. That's your opinion. Thanks goodness the National Post exists. Quote
Smallc Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 That's your opinion. Thanks goodness the National Post exists. The National Post, like the Sun newspapers, is more of a tabloid than a real paper. That's simply what they are, and it's their choice. There's a reason that the G & M does so much better than NP. Quote
Jack Weber Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Still waiting for someone on the crybaby side of this to explain how applying for a broadcasting license qualifies as "lobbying" in the legal sense. -k Not exactly a "crybaby" left winger...And I don't object to it at all. I just don't see the need for it... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
kimmy Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Not exactly a "crybaby" left winger...And I don't object to it at all. I just don't see the need for it... That's super, Jack, but I'm asking for some of the folks claiming that this is a breech of lobbying rules to defend that claim. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
lukin Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 The National Post, like the Sun newspapers, is more of a tabloid than a real paper. That's simply what they are, and it's their choice. There's a reason that the G & M does so much better than NP. Are you seriously saying that the National Post is a Tabloid style paper? Where are you coming up with this nonsense? Quote
Jack Weber Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 The National Post, like the Sun newspapers, is more of a tabloid than a real paper. That's simply what they are, and it's their choice. There's a reason that the G & M does so much better than NP. I would'nt call the National Post a tabloid... I mean,I don't see half nekkid chicks and 65% of the paper filled up with full page car ads and audio/video ads... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Smallc Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 I would'nt call the National Post a tabloid... Ok, ok, that may be a bit over the top...but it ain't the G & M. Quote
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