Shady Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 First we had this... Democrats: Joe Sestak must explain job offer Frustrated by the ongoing distraction, Democrats are stepping up their calls for Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) to resolve the flap surrounding his claim that the White House offered him a job in exchange for dropping out of the Senate primary. Several Pennsylvania Democrats, including Gov. Ed Rendell, called on Sestak to better explain himself so that his campaign and the White House can move beyond the matter, which has drawn increased coverage in the eight days since he defeated Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) and has led to sharp Republican criticism. Politico This could be a crime according to the federal bribery/extortion statutes. Depending on whether a quid pro quo can be proven. But now, a brand new allegation has come up... Romanoff confirms White House job discussionsU.S. Senate candidate Andrew Romanoff acknowledged tonight that he discussed three possible jobs with the deputy chief of staff of the Obama administration — all contingent upon a decision by Romanoff not to challenge U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet. Denver Post Is this the change we were suppose to believe in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 HOW DARE REAGAN DO THAT!!!! Oops I mean Obama. http://cchronicle.com/2010/05/ronald-reagans-joe-sestak-senator-s-i-hayakawa/ Hahahahahah Republicans want to put him on the 50 dollar bill but they keep tearing him apart trying to get something to stick to Obama. Like it or not Shady nothing illegal about it. Even your boy Reagan did it. Cry me a river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Yes, but the 'messiah' was supposed to be above all of that, change and all - remember LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 It's not certain by the hack piece you found, punked, but even if Reagan did it, it's still wrong. Can't you just look at this situation and make a judgement call based not on your opinion of Shady, but your sense of right and wrong? The Obama administration tried to fix the elections twice by bribing 2 individuals to stay out of senator campaigns. It does not look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 The Obama administration tried to fix the elections twice by bribing 2 individuals to stay out of senator campaigns. It does not look good. Exactly. Plus, there's an email record related to the second bribe. And what's funny, is that the Obama administration denied having offered Romanoff any jobs. Now it's public record. Today's press conference with Robert Gibbs will be more than entertaining. Especially after his last failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 It's not certain by the hack piece you found, punked, but even if Reagan did it, it's still wrong. Can't you just look at this situation and make a judgement call based not on your opinion of Shady, but your sense of right and wrong? The Obama administration tried to fix the elections twice by bribing 2 individuals to stay out of senator campaigns. It does not look good. Good I am glade we can all agree Regan was a terrible president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Good I am glade we can all agree Regan was a terrible president. Thank you for admitting that Obama is just as bad. Edited June 3, 2010 by sharkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Thank you for admitting that Obama is just as bad. No you see I don't think he is bad for all the stuff you guys go after Obama for I think he is bad because of his policies. Although if you think Obama is terrible because of this stuff you must think Reagan what did it, and did it worse. Like lie about his war record(something you guys attacked a Dem for), Actually offer up jobs (not really what Obama did), his unemployment number and so on. I mean honestly what a horrible horrible president. Right Shady? No wait I remember from the O'Keefe thread it is ok for Republicans to break the law it is only bad when Dems do it. Lolz Edited June 3, 2010 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 HOW DARE REAGAN DO THAT!!!! If Reagan did do that, then perhaps it should have been looked into. It may have been wrong. But that doesn't discount the bribery the Obama administration has engaged in. Your defense of Obama is child-like. "Obama's ok because somebody else, 30 years ago, might have done something similar." Even Democrats are questioning Obama! But now a series of recent missteps just keeps getting worse for Barack Obama’s political operation, already under fire from inside the party for losing its golden touchIn a possible repeat of the Joe Sestak episode in Pennsylvania, insurgent U.S. Senate candidate Andrew Romanoff of Colorado said deputy White House chief of staff Jim Messina reached out to him — with a wince-inducing e-mail that is now public — with three possible jobs in September 2009. Obama wanted to keep him out of a race against Sen. Michael Bennet, the White House’s favored candidate. Politico And lets not forget, that Obama wanted Governor Paterson to drop out of the New York race as well. Apparently Barack Stalin Obama thinks he can dictate to everyone which candidates should run, and which shouldn't run. The hell with the voters intentions. How's that hopey changey workin out for everyone?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 If Reagan did do that, then perhaps it should have been looked into. It may have been wrong. But that doesn't discount the bribery the Obama administration has engaged in. Your defense of Obama is child-like. "Obama's ok because somebody else, 30 years ago, might have done something similar." Even Democrats are questioning Obama! And lets not forget, that Obama wanted Governor Paterson to drop out of the New York race as well. Apparently Barack Stalin Obama thinks he can dictate to everyone which candidates should run, and which shouldn't run. The hell with the voters intentions. How's that hopey changey workin out for everyone?! Regan was just an example I picked because I like to point out how much you hate him. All Presidents have done it, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. Offering promising candidates positions in the white house is nothing new in fact at the start of his presidency Obama grabbed a lot of great Democratic politicians Shady. There is nothing wrong with going to someone and saying "Look you are great and if you become a Senator you can't work in the whitehouse so we would like you to work with us now and are offering you a job," it is called going for the best. It has been done for a long long time. Here is a whole story from BUSH'S Ethics Lawyer saying you are being a Baby and there is nothing wrong with the offer. OHHHHHH NOES REPUBLICANS TELL SHADY HE IS WRONG AGAIN! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/romanoff-job-offer-like-s_n_599111.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) If Reagan did do that, then perhaps it should have been looked into. It may have been wrong. But that doesn't discount the bribery the Obama administration has engaged in. Your defense of Obama is child-like. "Obama's ok because somebody else, 30 years ago, might have done something similar." Even Democrats are questioning Obama! And lets not forget, that Obama wanted Governor Paterson to drop out of the New York race as well. Apparently Barack Stalin Obama thinks he can dictate to everyone which candidates should run, and which shouldn't run. The hell with the voters intentions. How's that hopey changey workin out for everyone?! Regan was just an example I picked because I like to point out how much you hate him. All Presidents have done it, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. Offering promising candidates positions in the white house is nothing new in fact at the start of his presidency Obama grabbed a lot of great Democratic politicians Shady. There is nothing wrong with going to someone and saying "Look you are great and if you become a Senator you can't work in the whitehouse so we would like you to work with us now and are offering you a job," it is called going for the best. It has been done for a long long time. Here is a whole story from BUSH'S Ethics Lawyer saying you are being a Baby and there is nothing wrong with the offer. OHHHHHH NOES REPUBLICANS TELL SHADY HE IS WRONG AGAIN! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/romanoff-job-offer-like-s_n_599111.html Here is media matters take on it. http://mediamatters.org/research/201005280008 As for the hopey change thing, I would ask "hows that drilly spilly thing" going for Sarah. Hahaha keep quoting her Shady oh and chant drill baby drill to ok? Edited June 3, 2010 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 There is nothing wrong with going to someone and saying "Look you are great and if you become a Senator you can't work in the whitehouse so we would like you to work with us now and are offering you a job," it is called going for the best. LOL. They weren't offering jobs to get the best people. They offered jobs to clear the field for the likes of Arlen Specter. Going for the best my ass! It has been done for a long long time. That's not an excuse for bad behavior. Especially when Obama ran against that type of politics as usual. Hope n change! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLEqw0q5hg "And a new kind of politics in America" - Barack Obama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 I have no clue what your problem is. You have an issue with Obama because he is acting like Reagan did then you will turn around and tell me Obama should be more like Reagan. You are crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Looks like there's even more Obama administration shenanigans! Rahms unclean hands in getting Steve Israel to quit race against Gillibrand?Israel was given an ultimatum: if he proceeded with the Senate race, the White House would go to great pains to shut off every dollar in the state. With Schumers help, the administration would make sure all the big Democratic donors and institutional players kept their distance. They would show no restraint, even campaigning against him and raising money in Israels own home turf. Obama himself would come out to campaign in New York City Link Edited June 4, 2010 by Shady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Man, the Dems are going to get slaughtered in the mid-terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Nice source............Not. Come back when you got something that isn't from libertypundits.net, whose top story is "Regulation couldn't have stopped BP oil leak" Thanks but no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Nice source............Not. Come back when you got something that isn't from libertypundits.net, whose top story is "Regulation couldn't have stopped BP oil leak" Thanks but no thanks. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. But I guess it's ok for you to link from leftwing blogs like Huffington Post and Media Matters, right? You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. But I guess it's ok for you to link from leftwing blogs like Huffington Post and Media Matters, right? You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen in this forum. It doesn't say anything, it has no sources and it is just accusations. The Huff po gets their news from other outlets it doesn't make it up as it goes along Shady. Check it out sometime, any story you find on the Huff po appears on the AP or NYT or some other outlet. They report what they want but they at least report news, not make it up Shady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Punked, you're not denying that the white house offered positions for certain individuals to not run, are you? When Obama was running on hope and change, and change you can believe in, I knew he was going to have socialist tendencies, but I never expected him to be just another dirty politician. And when again is Gitmo closing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Punked, you're not denying that the white house offered positions for certain individuals to not run, are you? When Obama was running on hope and change, and change you can believe in, McCain's campaign slogan was virtually identical. Almost no difference whatsoever. I knew he was going to have socialist tendencies, but I never expected him to be just another dirty politician. And when again is Gitmo closing? You didn't expect him to be dirty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 McCain's campaign slogan was virtually identical. Almost no difference whatsoever. You didn't expect him to be dirty? Very true. I've even said that in many cases Obama will be worse than Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Very true. I've even said that in many cases Obama will be worse than Bush. A common criticism--which may well be accurate, I'm not sure--is that Obama is very similar to second-term Bush. Not the crazed, neocon fanaticism of defiant aggression that constituted Bush's first term...but very, very similar to the second term. I dunno...food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Punked, you're not denying that the white house offered positions for certain individuals to not run, are you? When Obama was running on hope and change, and change you can believe in, I knew he was going to have socialist tendencies, but I never expected him to be just another dirty politician. And when again is Gitmo closing? I am saying they saw a great progressive individual come out of that campaign they offered him a job at the white house to help with their problem with progressives but they told him he couldn't run for Senate if he took it. It was a job offer based on his work nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Very true. I've even said that in many cases Obama will be worse than Bush. The problem is, of course, that worse during good economic years is worlds away from worse during the worst economic crisis since the depression. What a time to spend 100's of billions and start a national health care plan. How long before gold hits 1300? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 The problem is, of course, that worse during good economic years is worlds away from worse during the worst economic crisis since the depression. That's true. The fact that Bush caused the worst economic crisis since the depression is much worse than Obama having to deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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