Jack Weber Posted June 5, 2010 Report Posted June 5, 2010 I think that the drafters of the proclamation thought foremost that: in the spirit of Jefferson: "Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them." --Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821. ME 1:72 lincoln himself stated he would leave every slave where it was if he could keep the union from dissolving. And if ‘emancipation’ was so important, why was the ‘emancipation proclamation’ not authored until nearly 2 and a half years at the time that the north was losing. Why did the emancipation proclamation leave slavery alone in northern states? That was just a political ploy to incite emotions and draw attention away from the draft riots and the enslavement of [mostly] Irish immigrants. Before the Emancipation Proclamation , Lincoln reiterated over and over that the war was not about slavery , congress even made a declaration as such , ” This war is not fought in the spirit of conquest , or to interfere with the INSTITUTIONS of the states... ”... also as far as black bondage is concerned: how does freedom in pre-industrialized america in an agricultural largely unspoiled continental wilderness compare to the brutal savagery and primitive existence and endless tribal warfare in sub Saharan Africa? Irish slavery...Interesting... Could you cite the corresponding "Dred Scott case",as it relates to free Irishmenn from Boston and New york that proves this legislated indentured servitude? By the way,this has nothing to do with SubSaharan Africa,where all the pock-faced baboon's are.. It does have to do with your continuing obfuscation on the originating ethos of the NAACP and the essay of W.E.B.Du Bois in 1903... What are we up to...Whiff #4 OR #5? By the way,you made the comment on shipping slaves to Mexico and the Carribean..Have you looked up the names of" George Bickley Elkanah Greer The Knights of the Golden Circle.. ...Yet? As far as you're Lincon believes as I do,and so did Thomas Jefferson drivel... The Emancipation proclamation changed the emaning of the war from a nebular construct of economics and political theory,to a struggle for human rights.By todays standards,every single person associated with that war would be considered a bigot...Of course,you've just tacitly admitted that your thought processes are at least 150 years out of date... But hey...The ghost of Edmund Ruffin thanks you... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
lictor616 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Posted June 5, 2010 Irish slavery...Interesting... Could you cite the corresponding "Dred Scott case",as it relates to free Irishmenn from Boston and New york that proves this legislated indentured servitude? By the way,this has nothing to do with SubSaharan Africa,where all the pock-faced baboon's are.. It does have to do with your continuing obfuscation on the originating ethos of the NAACP and the essay of W.E.B.Du Bois in 1903... What are we up to...Whiff #4 OR #5? By the way,you made the comment on shipping slaves to Mexico and the Carribean..Have you looked up the names of" George Bickley Elkanah Greer The Knights of the Golden Circle.. ...Yet? As far as you're Lincon believes as I do,and so did Thomas Jefferson drivel... The Emancipation proclamation changed the emaning of the war from a nebular construct of economics and political theory,to a struggle for human rights.By todays standards,every single person associated with that war would be considered a bigot...Of course,you've just tacitly admitted that your thought processes are at least 150 years out of date... But hey...The ghost of Edmund Ruffin thanks you... Lincoln did not allow blacks in his home, Jefferson spoke of an aristocracy among men, and also spoke of an aristocracy of races. Your TV history that Jefferson and Lincoln were both multicultural progressive egalitarians is so way out of left field... i don't even know if I should go on... THe notion that the north went to war to give equality to blacks is perverse, and amlmost every historian on the subject always is very careful to stipulate that... Anyone remotely well read on the subject knows it had no relationship with war. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Jack Weber Posted June 6, 2010 Report Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) Lincoln did not allow blacks in his home, Jefferson spoke of an aristocracy among men, and also spoke of an aristocracy of races. Your TV history that Jefferson and Lincoln were both multicultural progressive egalitarians is so way out of left field... i don't even know if I should go on... THe notion that the north went to war to give equality to blacks is perverse, and amlmost every historian on the subject always is very careful to stipulate that... Anyone remotely well read on the subject knows it had no relationship with war. Yup! Both bigots by today's standards...Did'nt say they were'nt.I'll go even farhter.U.S Grant was brought up on charges for being anti-Semitic and William Tecumseh Sherman was infamously quoted as saying,"The only good Indian is a dead Indian!". The Emancipation Proclamation was done for several reasons... 1.Poor generalship by the Union(at least in the beginning) was the reason for massive loss of life on the battlefield(Thanks to indecisive folks like George McLellen and reckless cowboys like Ambrose Burnside).The Union needed men,and there was a huge supply of manpower waiting. 2.The Confederacy was mainly rural and agrarian.No field hands...No field production=economic destruction.More slaves than Reb's in Dixie... 3.Along the lines of #2...The value of the bought human chattle was more than the value of the real estate they were forced to work on.The loss of this "property" was a huge loss of donero for the Southern aristocracy,who was financing the Confederate war effort. 4.While I agree that in the beginning non of the above have alot to do with humanitarianism,Mr.Lincoln saw how this was a galvanizing moment for the North,particularily after Antietam.Once the news of what as really happening on Southern plantations became known after things like the fall of Vicksburg or Jackson,Mississippi.Or in Western Tennessee or in Alabama....And the photo's of that inhumanity were published in large circulation newspapers like Horace Greely's New York Tribune(where those Irish slaves were drafted from...and kept coming from because of the mythical Dred Scottesque case you cannot cite because it does'nt exist!),the reason for the war truly changed and the cause became a righteous humanitarian crusade.Secession no longer was a legalistic constitutional matter,but about righting the wrongs of the almost unGodly slaveholding rebels. That's why Grant's initials became known as Unconditional Surrender Grant.No terms of surrender for the Reb's...Surrender or die.That's why Sherman went through palntation after plantation on his "March to the Sea" and freed every slave he could find,then "Necktied" the railroads and burned everything in sight.Found the Andersonville prison camp,turned northward for South Carolina,and dished out his special version of Hell on the 1st state to secede under the "states rights" fallacy.Charleston got it the worst,for obvious reasons... You are simply incorret in your assesment of the situation from a factual and historical basis! By the way... Whiff #6 on the W.E.B. Du Bois essay of 1903... How 'bout Bickley,Greer,and,the KGC? Or am I still "out in left field"? Edited June 6, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
lictor616 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) Whiff #6 on the W.E.B. Du Bois essay of 1903... How 'bout Bickley,Greer,and,the KGC? Or am I still "out in left field"? Still on about DuBois eh.. Alright, you want to talk about your hero... Lets go ahead and delve into the man that invented White Guilt through cultural marxism. Lets look at this non-entity: first off, he isn't full blooded black, he traces his origins to french settlers of St-Domingue (modern day Haiti)- his father (a quadroon) with the dedication and morality for which black men are famous, left W.E.B when he was 2, to be cared for by well to do whites who afforded him access to universities, and the Black Elite of Massachusetts, the whites he associated whith in Greant Barrington Mass were so bigoted and dastardly that (DuBOis wrote) there was: “almost no … segregation or color consciousness” in Great Barrington. With such a beginning however, DuBois became resentful that white women would not consort with him (lol I couldn't make this up- he actually said he became a advocate for the black race when a white woman socially snubbed him) and henceforth promised to "make them seek me and urge me to come out". At Fisk University, he began his resentment of whites, and edited what amounts to a black supremacist rag in an all black university that had a student body composed of parvenus blacks who saw themselves as supermen (this seems to happen whenever blacks are given privileged roles in any capacity, they power trip and begin having delusions of grandeur and become Robert Mugabe's, Idi Amins etc...) The editorial he wrote bore the lilting phrase: “ye destined leaders of a noble people.” (and was destined to the black élite) He made a very profitable salary working at a luxury hotel in which he saw the white patrons as "white swine, yucking it up", this is when he conceded to detest white people. The rest of WEB Dubois is the typical simultaneous lusting and hatred of white women: the inbuilt "will to defile the beauty they cannot reproduce" which is responsible I suspect for the lopsided rape statistics we see today in the states: where on average 30 000 white women are raped by black men, while white men rape statistically NULL amounts of black women. viz: U.S. Justice Department 2006 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0602.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 32,443 White women raped by Black men, zero Black women raped by White men. U.S. Justice Department 2005 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 37,460 White women raped by Negroes, zero Black women raped by White men. U.S. Justice Department 2004 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0402.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 11,611 White women raped by Black men, zero Black women raped by White men. U.S. Justice Department 2003 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0302.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 20,309 White women raped by Black men, zero Black women raped by White men. But I digress: WEB DuBois had an inferiority complex: he can't stop gloating about copulating with "german shop girls" but then pretends to be too noble to marry the Dutch woman he admittedly fell in love with (too much hate for her race was his reason). At Harvard on a free scholarship, he met with a bevy of sociologists who were well versed in what would later be called the Frankfurt school. At Harvard,he began to read about the prospects for social revolution by studying Hegel, Webber, Durkheim and and of course: Marx. He was sympathetic to the ideas stipulated by Weishaupt's bavarian league which promised to destroy the White order of the world. It was there that DuBois learned of the potential for social manipulation through the use of race. Gradually he concluded that in a climate of virulent racism, social change could be brought through cultural marxism. That's what his essays and black studies and NAACP amount to: cultural marxism: to simply destroy the society first and then go about effecting changes. He learned of the "victim mentality" dialectic victomology. Look up marxist victomology: or sample this bit of commie pap: http://attackthesystem.com/shachtman-marcuse-and-bakunin/ Its merely a tool developed by the Frankfurt school to again: undermine the cohesion of the state: to destroy mores and animate disenchantment for ITS OWN SAKE. WEB also studied and actually met and corresponded with many marxists and proponents (and founders of) dialectical social change. You should really research the Frankfurt school, you'll be able to read the ugly canard of DuBois in quite an illuminating light. DuBois brought back from Germany what he had learned: and he engineered the now sacred liberal excuse for black under-achievement: the now automatic "blacks are where they are because of white discrimination"... the ultimate liberal ghost (akin to the glass ceiling nonsense). This is the beginning of "Black Victimology" and incidentally, the foundation of the grotesque religion called "black liberation theology" of which the current president professes belief in. Its main function is instilling hatred and a "will to destroy" in people. Please view this exposé by J. McWhorter. DuBois began disseminating his social propaganda via his "Philadelphia Negro" A typical issue treatment would be his concession for instance that although blacks were only four percent of the population they committed 22 percent of the serious crime, and that “sexual looseness” brought “adultery and prostitution in its train.” He demanded that blacks reform to “honesty, truth, and chastity” * BUT * argued that it was racism that prevented black to get good jobs and opened the door on all other problems (lol how hilarious it is that this today, 110 years later, this is still the tactic used by the liberal left to excuse EVERY behavior of blacks.) DuBois promised that if discrimination was abolished: all of the problems would vanish. Before DuBois, scholarship pointed to the science of genetics as an explanation for black inefficiency- the implacable and immovable work of Gregor Mendel and Darwin provided a very cogent and consistent explanation... the "genius" of DuBois( that for which he is credited) was for having invented a great spin on the "negro problem": blaming whites for black inefficiency: a very momentous invention for the crypto-communist left (still in use today despite its obvious problems). Dubois from 1898 to 1910, taught sociology at an Atlanta University. He was surrounded with other white sociologists who were interested in the prospects of using the black race problem to bring about a communist revolution. The sum of his scholarship can be summed up as follow: "it's whitey's fault" and he also wrote for influential publications like Atlantic Monthly where he wailed about blacks as eternal victims. Publishing houses and socialist agents (who at that time already owned many propganda mediums: the introduction of radio as well as important distributions of the printed word) pushed his "His The Souls of Black Folks" hard- its promotion was so large that by 1910 it was very widely read. (and thus began WHITE GUILT: a very useful tool to the leftists- still is today). After the Springfield white riots (reacting to blacks breaking into white homes to rape white women). A white millionaire, labor reformer, kabbalist and communist William English Walling, saw the proposal to institute the NAACP (which would act as a cultural marxist front to animate a revolution). Thus was born the NAACP. The NAACP was staffed from top to bottom with communists and Marcuse type socialists. Anna Strunsky, a Jewish proto-communist writer and husband of Walling, wrote later for the organization. Incidentally, Strunsky and Walling were both pioneers and prime movers of the Communist Party in the United States, which would later (during the cold war) be guilty of high treason. DuBois then rode high on the hog- he was funded by the powerful cabal of ennobled and rich parvenus who supported socialism (as a means of controlling society and setting up similar condition to Russia). His mediocre manuscripts and essays benefited from the network of socialists that promoted his trifle as revolutionary writing (technically it was). A certain Prof. Wolters once noted taht that it was very unusual for someone to become the leader of a political movement simply by virtue of his influence as a magazine editor. From then DuBois just did more of the same: more blame shifting, more white guilt, more vicimology. His hatred for whites became more and more violent and deliberate. To sample a bit Du Bois’s racial hatred (his animus for writing). He once wrote that Western Civilization was “built on black and brown and yellow suffering,” and summed up his feelings for whites in the following ditty: I hate them, Oh! I hate them well, I hate them, Christ! As I hate hell! If I were God, I’d sound their knell This day! Then it was more coveting of white women, he would defile white women as a means of breaking "the white man's pride and joy" ... and certainly today everyone who samples mass media is familiar with the image presented to the effect that blacks are superior in attractiveness to whites. When Du Bois once said that “White women, evidently of the cultured and wealthier classes, fashionably attired in low-cut gowns, leaned over the tabes to chat confidentially with negro men of the true African type … [T]he broad smiles of the negroes as they leered surreptitiously across the room at their Caucasian friends made one feel their inner ecstasy.” Propaganda for white women. Too bad that white women evidently had not profited from the research of many ranking professor of marxism in major universities at the time, who advised White women that when they are raped by blacks, they should relax and enjoy the privilege that they secretly covet in their canine souls. And to this he added the grotesque twist that blacks never rape anyone: since obviously every women wants to bed down with them. (I see that used fairly often today when I cite rape stats). The rest of his miserable existence as a second rate race baiter, he grew so intolerantly hateful of whites that he revealed himself by Joining a communist party in an African country and died there. What a guy right?! What a piece of filth. We see the whole animus behind black liberation: rape the sweet white flesh of the white man's daughters... isn't that the essence? Edited June 6, 2010 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
bloodyminded Posted June 6, 2010 Report Posted June 6, 2010 (edited) At Fisk University, he began his resentment of whites, and edited what amounts to a black supremacist rag in an all black university that had a student body composed of parvenus blacks who saw themselves as supermen (this seems to happen whenever blacks are given privileged roles in any capacity, they power trip and begin having delusions of grandeur and become Robert Mugabe's, Idi Amins etc...) Yes, black people are just like that, aren't they? you can't give those n****** any power, that's the answer. We see the whole animus behind black liberation: rape the sweet white flesh of the white man's daughters... isn't that the essence? Sure, that's what it's always been about. They're naturally rapists, you see. For a political debate board more amenable to your tastes, you might want to visit this one: http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/race-issues/ Edited June 6, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
lictor616 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Posted June 6, 2010 Yes, black people are just like that, aren't they? you can't give those n****** any power, that's the answer. Sure, that's what it's always been about. They're naturally rapists, you see. For a political debate board more amenable to your tastes, you might want to visit this one: http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/race-issues/ yeah, like the martyr of liberals: Tookie Williams, a noted black liberation enthusiast, saw that raping white women was a black commandment from God- in his autobiography he wrote about deliberately seeking white women to rape- to "trample on the white man's treasure". but no, sometimes white women (even beautiful white women, if they are sufficiently socialized by TV) can willfully consort with a black man... sometimes accidents DO HAPPEN though... like katie piper, the beautiful blonde, nordic looking model and TV personality and her unfortunate jungle fever which lead her to brutal rape and an acid bath for good measure: before: http://modelmagic.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/katie_piper_04.jpg after: http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/dec2009/6/8/katie-piper-pic-dm-ian-vogler-177821538.jpg The difference is that black men who are racist and have the victim mentality (hatred) towards whites, will still date white women- which is where the danger comes from... combine lust for the magnificence of white women, golden locks, bright light hued eyes, with implacable hatred, jealousy and inferiority complex... the cocktail can be explosive... rape stats are pretty unambiguous about that., Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Jack Weber Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) Still on about DuBois eh.. Alright, you want to talk about your hero... Lets go ahead and delve into the man that invented White Guilt through cultural marxism. Lets look at this non-entity: first off, he isn't full blooded black, he traces his origins to french settlers of St-Domingue (modern day Haiti)- his father (a quadroon) with the dedication and morality for which black men are famous, left W.E.B when he was 2, to be cared for by well to do whites who afforded him access to universities, and the Black Elite of Massachusetts, the whites he associated whith in Greant Barrington Mass were so bigoted and dastardly that (DuBOis wrote) there was: “almost no … segregation or color consciousness” in Great Barrington. With such a beginning however, DuBois became resentful that white women would not consort with him (lol I couldn't make this up- he actually said he became a advocate for the black race when a white woman socially snubbed him) and henceforth promised to "make them seek me and urge me to come out". At Fisk University, he began his resentment of whites, and edited what amounts to a black supremacist rag in an all black university that had a student body composed of parvenus blacks who saw themselves as supermen (this seems to happen whenever blacks are given privileged roles in any capacity, they power trip and begin having delusions of grandeur and become Robert Mugabe's, Idi Amins etc...) The editorial he wrote bore the lilting phrase: “ye destined leaders of a noble people.” (and was destined to the black élite) He made a very profitable salary working at a luxury hotel in which he saw the white patrons as "white swine, yucking it up", this is when he conceded to detest white people. The rest of WEB Dubois is the typical simultaneous lusting and hatred of white women: the inbuilt "will to defile the beauty they cannot reproduce" which is responsible I suspect for the lopsided rape statistics we see today in the states: where on average 30 000 white women are raped by black men, while white men rape statistically NULL amounts of black women. viz: U.S. Justice Department 2006 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0602.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 32,443 White women raped by Black men, zero Black women raped by White men. U.S. Justice Department 2005 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 37,460 White women raped by Negroes, zero Black women raped by White men. U.S. Justice Department 2004 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0402.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 11,611 White women raped by Black men, zero Black women raped by White men. U.S. Justice Department 2003 rape statistics URL: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0302.pdf Scroll to Table 42. --> 20,309 White women raped by Black men, zero Black women raped by White men. But I digress: WEB DuBois had an inferiority complex: he can't stop gloating about copulating with "german shop girls" but then pretends to be too noble to marry the Dutch woman he admittedly fell in love with (too much hate for her race was his reason). At Harvard on a free scholarship, he met with a bevy of sociologists who were well versed in what would later be called the Frankfurt school. At Harvard,he began to read about the prospects for social revolution by studying Hegel, Webber, Durkheim and and of course: Marx. He was sympathetic to the ideas stipulated by Weishaupt's bavarian league which promised to destroy the White order of the world. It was there that DuBois learned of the potential for social manipulation through the use of race. Gradually he concluded that in a climate of virulent racism, social change could be brought through cultural marxism. That's what his essays and black studies and NAACP amount to: cultural marxism: to simply destroy the society first and then go about effecting changes. He learned of the "victim mentality" dialectic victomology. Look up marxist victomology: or sample this bit of commie pap: http://attackthesystem.com/shachtman-marcuse-and-bakunin/ Its merely a tool developed by the Frankfurt school to again: undermine the cohesion of the state: to destroy mores and animate disenchantment for ITS OWN SAKE. WEB also studied and actually met and corresponded with many marxists and proponents (and founders of) dialectical social change. You should really research the Frankfurt school, you'll be able to read the ugly canard of DuBois in quite an illuminating light. DuBois brought back from Germany what he had learned: and he engineered the now sacred liberal excuse for black under-achievement: the now automatic "blacks are where they are because of white discrimination"... the ultimate liberal ghost (akin to the glass ceiling nonsense). This is the beginning of "Black Victimology" and incidentally, the foundation of the grotesque religion called "black liberation theology" of which the current president professes belief in. Its main function is instilling hatred and a "will to destroy" in people. Please view this exposé by J. McWhorter. DuBois began disseminating his social propaganda via his "Philadelphia Negro" A typical issue treatment would be his concession for instance that although blacks were only four percent of the population they committed 22 percent of the serious crime, and that “sexual looseness” brought “adultery and prostitution in its train.” He demanded that blacks reform to “honesty, truth, and chastity” * BUT * argued that it was racism that prevented black to get good jobs and opened the door on all other problems (lol how hilarious it is that this today, 110 years later, this is still the tactic used by the liberal left to excuse EVERY behavior of blacks.) DuBois promised that if discrimination was abolished: all of the problems would vanish. Before DuBois, scholarship pointed to the science of genetics as an explanation for black inefficiency- the implacable and immovable work of Gregor Mendel and Darwin provided a very cogent and consistent explanation... the "genius" of DuBois( that for which he is credited) was for having invented a great spin on the "negro problem": blaming whites for black inefficiency: a very momentous invention for the crypto-communist left (still in use today despite its obvious problems). Dubois from 1898 to 1910, taught sociology at an Atlanta University. He was surrounded with other white sociologists who were interested in the prospects of using the black race problem to bring about a communist revolution. The sum of his scholarship can be summed up as follow: "it's whitey's fault" and he also wrote for influential publications like Atlantic Monthly where he wailed about blacks as eternal victims. Publishing houses and socialist agents (who at that time already owned many propganda mediums: the introduction of radio as well as important distributions of the printed word) pushed his "His The Souls of Black Folks" hard- its promotion was so large that by 1910 it was very widely read. (and thus began WHITE GUILT: a very useful tool to the leftists- still is today). After the Springfield white riots (reacting to blacks breaking into white homes to rape white women). A white millionaire, labor reformer, kabbalist and communist William English Walling, saw the proposal to institute the NAACP (which would act as a cultural marxist front to animate a revolution). Thus was born the NAACP. The NAACP was staffed from top to bottom with communists and Marcuse type socialists. Anna Strunsky, a Jewish proto-communist writer and husband of Walling, wrote later for the organization. Incidentally, Strunsky and Walling were both pioneers and prime movers of the Communist Party in the United States, which would later (during the cold war) be guilty of high treason. DuBois then rode high on the hog- he was funded by the powerful cabal of ennobled and rich parvenus who supported socialism (as a means of controlling society and setting up similar condition to Russia). His mediocre manuscripts and essays benefited from the network of socialists that promoted his trifle as revolutionary writing (technically it was). A certain Prof. Wolters once noted taht that it was very unusual for someone to become the leader of a political movement simply by virtue of his influence as a magazine editor. From then DuBois just did more of the same: more blame shifting, more white guilt, more vicimology. His hatred for whites became more and more violent and deliberate. To sample a bit Du Bois’s racial hatred (his animus for writing). He once wrote that Western Civilization was “built on black and brown and yellow suffering,” and summed up his feelings for whites in the following ditty: I hate them, Oh! I hate them well, I hate them, Christ! As I hate hell! If I were God, I’d sound their knell This day! Then it was more coveting of white women, he would defile white women as a means of breaking "the white man's pride and joy" ... and certainly today everyone who samples mass media is familiar with the image presented to the effect that blacks are superior in attractiveness to whites. When Du Bois once said that “White women, evidently of the cultured and wealthier classes, fashionably attired in low-cut gowns, leaned over the tabes to chat confidentially with negro men of the true African type … [T]he broad smiles of the negroes as they leered surreptitiously across the room at their Caucasian friends made one feel their inner ecstasy.” Propaganda for white women. Too bad that white women evidently had not profited from the research of many ranking professor of marxism in major universities at the time, who advised White women that when they are raped by blacks, they should relax and enjoy the privilege that they secretly covet in their canine souls. And to this he added the grotesque twist that blacks never rape anyone: since obviously every women wants to bed down with them. (I see that used fairly often today when I cite rape stats). The rest of his miserable existence as a second rate race baiter, he grew so intolerantly hateful of whites that he revealed himself by Joining a communist party in an African country and died there. What a guy right?! What a piece of filth. We see the whole animus behind black liberation: rape the sweet white flesh of the white man's daughters... isn't that the essence? Um... Not exactly a hero of mine,but...Spectacular polemnic,nonetheless!!! By the way,no response to post 153?...Or am I historically inaccurate??? By the way,whiff # 7 on Du Bois and his essay of 1903... Still no response on Bickley,Greer,and the KGC...It's not that hard! By the way,any luck finding that legislation on Irish slavery in the US and a "Dred Scottesque" case that upheld it? Edited June 7, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
lictor616 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 Um... Not exactly a hero of mine,but...Spectacular polemnic,nonetheless!!! By the way,no response to post 153?...Or am I historically inaccurate??? By the way,whiff # 7 on Du Bois and his essay of 1903... Still no response on Bickley,Greer,and the KGC...It's not that hard! By the way,any luck finding that legislation on Irish slavery in the US and a "Dred Scottesque" case that upheld it? whaddya mean whiff #7!?!!?! go ahead and explain then- unless your being obtuse here just for s**** & giggles... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Jack Weber Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) whaddya mean whiff #7!?!!?! go ahead and explain then- unless your being obtuse here just for s**** & giggles... C'mon,you're the historian schooling all of us on our miseducation... Please elucidate for all of us mental midgets what the subject matter of the Du Bois essay was in 1903? Dude,you need some time in the historical batting cage... Whiff #8!!! Edited June 8, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
lictor616 Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 C'mon,you're the historian schooling all of us on our miseducation... Please elucidate for all of us mental midgets what the subject matter of the Du Bois essay was in 1903? Dude,you need some time in the historical batting cage... Whiff #8!!! i thought you were the expert in american history ... i never pretended to be... sure, i'm not useless on the subject but why act like I presented myself as a historian, enough with the emotionalism just tell me what you mean by dubois essay... what subject matter are you trying to bring up? whiff #4, you tell me- whats your angle... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Jack Weber Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 i thought you were the expert in american history ... i never pretended to be... sure, i'm not useless on the subject but why act like I presented myself as a historian, enough with the emotionalism just tell me what you mean by dubois essay... what subject matter are you trying to bring up? whiff #4, you tell me- whats your angle... Damn... Now I have to change my sig...You've just struck out 3 times by yourself! Whiff #9!!! I'll give you a not so cryptic hint........ .....wait for it....... 1/10th.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
M.Dancer Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 In the 60's, there was a very strong and large movement started by blacks to petition for "repatriation to the motherland africa". At the time it (1963) it had gathered 2 million signatures. The petition was called the Abraham Lincoln Plan (quite correctly in historical terms). People from the NAACP and ADL helped killed the bill... Imagine my suprise after asking twice for some citation....none had appeared...I guess there wasn't an appropriate youtube entry ... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) Imagine my suprise after asking twice for some citation....none had appeared...I guess there wasn't an appropriate youtube entry ... It was named the "langer bill" there where 7 organization of "negroes"(sic) who were petitioning for the passing of the langer bill in the senate which "provides for assistance to negroes who wish to return to their motherland africa", the largest known black organizations involved were: the Peace Movement of Ethiopia, the African Universal Church, the Universal Negro Improvement Association, and the Universal African Nationalist Movement, this fact has been effectively hushed up by the media during the civil "riots" movement, so much so that it is difficult to encounter any mention of it. The internet is pretty dry of this info, I have a few manuals and periodicals at my cottage that outline this Langer Bill, i'll try to repost later. these organizations of blacks were able to present a petition to the US senate: of 2 million signatures by blacks, to "return negroes to their motherland africa" many of the organizations that spearheaded the bill were million strong organizations: http://books.google.ca/books?id=TMV3n-26cLAC&pg=RA1-PA914&lpg=RA1-PA914&dq=universal+negro+improvement+association+million+signatures&source=bl&ots=Hmg7zY9T_B&sig=0BuKyC44aR16BrVXp1N6Ena9bQE&hl=en&ei=M_EOTK6aHIKclgeewaFs&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false and even today this is still a reality: http://www.thenewunitedrepublic.com/ Edited June 9, 2010 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 It was named the "langer bill" .... How about a citation....something tangible, 'cause I don't feel you are honest so your word in my mind is worthless. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 F|irst it was the Abraham Lincoln petetion..now it is called the Langer Bill...I wonder what new fabrication will be seen tomorrow that has 2 million signatures... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 F|irst it was the Abraham Lincoln petetion..now it is called the Langer Bill...I wonder what new fabrication will be seen tomorrow that has 2 million signatures... I'm still waiting for: 1.The subject matter of the 1903 essay written by W.E.B. Du Bois,and how it relates to the originating ethos of the NAACP 2.A citation about the legislated indentured servitude of Irish people in New York and Boston,and the legal case(like the Dred Scott case) that upheld this statute. 3.Lictor's enlightened take on George Bickley,Elkanah Greer,and,The Knights of the Golden Circle... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 How about a citation....something tangible, 'cause I don't feel you are honest so your word in my mind is worthless. well I quoted a book that mentions it in passing- I understand your position, I wouldn't take your word for anything either... so um... blow, I guess... why stick around then? Why waste your time replying? As you yourself once said: If I told you the earth wasn't flat, you'd ask for a citation... if really nothing I say is worth anything to you... then the obvious question is: why are we dialogging at all? Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Michael Hardner Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) I'm still waiting for: From Lictor ? My advice is this: if you're enjoying the time it takes you (not much) to reduce his posts to the proper pile of illogic and obscure references that they are, then good for you. But do not invest any time in posting to Lictor, if you expect a reasonable reply or proper evidence for his beliefs. The real reasons he thinks those dark thoughts are deep within him, and the links he provides are just a false costume of reason. Edited June 9, 2010 by Michael Hardner Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) if really nothing I say is worth anything to you... then the obvious question is: why are we dialogging at all? So as to count grains of sand through the hourglass until you get banned, is my guess. Edited June 9, 2010 by Michael Hardner Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) From Lictor ? My advice is this: if you're enjoying the time it takes you (not much) to reduce his posts to the proper pile of illogic and obscure references that they are, then good for you. But do not invest any time in posting to Lictor, if you expect a reasonable reply or proper evidence for his beliefs. The real reasons he thinks those dark thoughts are deep within him, and the links he provides are just a false costume of reason. See the Jack to Whiffy strike count ratio in my sig.... Edited June 9, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
M.Dancer Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 if really nothing I say is worth anything to you... then the obvious question is: why are we dialogging at all? It's a public service. It behooves us to out charlatons, frauds, plagiarists and liars. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 I'm still waiting for: 1.The subject matter of the 1903 essay written by W.E.B. Du Bois,and how it relates to the originating ethos of the NAACP 2.A citation about the legislated indentured servitude of Irish people in New York and Boston,and the legal case(like the Dred Scott case) that upheld this statute. 3.Lictor's enlightened take on George Bickley,Elkanah Greer,and,The Knights of the Golden Circle... my take on WEB DuBois was pretty clear... as far as his 1903 essay: cultural marxism. Bickley? don,t know what he has to do with this, and Elkanah Greer the confederate soldier? I can't speak to that... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 It's a public service. It behooves us to out charlatons, frauds, plagiarists and liars. who's "us"? by giving charlatans platforms to speak? by engaging with them? interesting, Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 From Lictor ? My advice is this: if you're enjoying the time it takes you (not much) to reduce his posts to the proper pile of illogic and obscure references that they are, then good for you. where did he do this? please show me Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Imagine my suprise after asking twice for some citation....none had appeared...I guess there wasn't an appropriate youtube entry ... Remember Dancer,he said he would link to it,but it might be a site that us folks might make him look like a racist... I'm thinking it's some Neo-NAZI or Neo-Confederate site that tries to tell you that the Confederacy was'nt a racist institution,meanwhile having some bizarre and grandiose humanitarian plan(no doubt endorsed by the late George Lincoln Rockwell) about "repatriating" blacks back to Africa. Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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