Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 my take on WEB DuBois was pretty clear... as far as his 1903 essay: cultural marxism. Bickley? don,t know what he has to do with this, and Elkanah Greer the confederate soldier? I can't speak to that... Wrong!!!! I gave you a very good hint and you still can't get it.... C'mon Lictor,make an effort kiddo!!!! Now I have to change my sig...again... Whiff #10... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Remember Dancer,he said he would link to it,but it might be a site that us folks might make him look like a racist... I'm thinking it's some Neo-NAZI or Neo-Confederate site that tries to tell you that the Confederacy was'nt a racist institution,meanwhile having some bizarre and grandiose humanitarian plan(no doubt endorsed by the late George Lincoln Rockwell) about "repatriating" blacks back to Africa. well of course everything relating to race in those days was (according to our standards) racist... Confederacy... were nazis.... wait what? Are you saying that the confederacy were national socialists, and corporate fascists? Rockwell and the confederacy? i don<t see the relationship between the buffoons who dressed up like nazis and the boys in grey in the CS Army... the Langer bill had no ties to Lincoln Rockwell... it was also known as the Lincoln plan: but that of course was ABRAHAM Lincoln.... not George Lincoln Rockwell. I don't understand, Webber, are you saying that the Confederacy were neonazis? really? why don't you TELL me what your on about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 well of course everything relating to race in those days was (according to our standards) racist... Confederacy... were nazis.... wait what? Are you saying that the confederacy were national socialists, and corporate fascists? Rockwell and the confederacy? i don<t see the relationship between the buffoons who dressed up like nazis and the boys in grey in the CS Army... the Langer bill had no ties to Lincoln Rockwell... it was also known as the Lincoln plan: but that of course was ABRAHAM Lincoln.... not George Lincoln Rockwell. I don't understand, Webber, are you saying that the Confederacy were neonazis? really? why don't you TELL me what your on about... See... If I said something like that I would have said that the Confederates were forerunners to the NAZI party. But..I did'nt... And Rockwell endorsed your Lincoln Plan...Unlike the REAL Lincoln,who dismissed it as ridiculous 100 years earlier... But you're right about something... You don't understand... By the way,this one does'nt count against your "Whiff count".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) See... If I said something like that I would have said that the Confederates were forerunners to the NAZI party. But..I did'nt... And Rockwell endorsed your Lincoln Plan...Unlike the REAL Lincoln,who dismissed it as ridiculous 100 years earlier... But you're right about something... You don't understand... By the way,this one does'nt count against your "Whiff count".... If rockwell endorsed the theory of gravity, would that mean the newton was a forerunner to nazis and hitler? I mean what the hell ARE you saying? The real Lincoln was the only one I ever talked about... George Lincoln Rockwell is irrelevant so far as I'm concerned to this discussion. and the whiff count thing makes you everything you say a bit of the "poofster" side.. ( i mean no disrespect by that btw) Edited June 9, 2010 by lictor616 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 If rockwell endorsed the theory of gravity, would that mean the newton was a forerunner to nazis and hitler? I mean what the hell ARE you saying? The real Lincoln was the only one I ever talked about... George Lincoln Rockwell is irrelevant so far as I'm concerned to this discussion. and the whiff count thing makes you everything you say a bit of the "poofster" side.. ( i mean no disrespect by that btw) This again,Lictor? This bizarre,deliberately obtuse attempt at logic...Again??? If George Rockwell,leader of the American NAZI party in the early '60's,endorsed a wacko plan to "repatriate" blacks to SubSaharan Africa called the "Lincoln Plan",co-opting the name of a President(who considered...and then dismissed said plan as implausible a century before),how credible could that "plan" really be? And how is that not relevent to this "plan"?If it was implausible before the U.S. Civil War because Lincoln felt that no black person in America at the time knew anything about Africa(other than it was still there) because those people had not been there for generations,what makes it more plausible 100 years later? Is it because some misguided Afrocentrists thought it was a good idea and it somehow jives with your personal view of things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 This again,Lictor? This bizarre,deliberately obtuse attempt at logic...Again??? If George Rockwell,leader of the American NAZI party in the early '60's,endorsed a wacko plan to "repatriate" blacks to SubSaharan Africa called the "Lincoln Plan",co-opting the name of a President(who considered...and then dismissed said plan as implausible a century before),how credible could that "plan" really be? lol, dense much? Its not relevant BECAUSE I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE GLR PLAN... I WAS TALKING OF THE LANGER BILL remember? the langer bill!?!?! "langer bill" there where 7 organization of "negroes"(sic) who were petitioning for the passing of the langer bill in the senate which "provides for assistance to negroes who wish to return to their motherland africa", the largest known black organizations involved were: the Peace Movement of Ethiopia, the African Universal Church, the Universal Negro Improvement Association, and the Universal African Nationalist Movement," these were leagues of blacks representing BLACKS... who asked for assistance to be REPATRIATED TO AFRICA... the original Lincoln plan might have been a little economically unsound, but you make it sound like it was even less feasible in the 60's! with massive black support... and (if news of the bill would have been widely distributed) massive white taxpayer support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) lol, dense much? Its not relevant BECAUSE I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE GLR PLAN... I WAS TALKING OF THE LANGER BILL remember? the langer bill!?!?! "langer bill" there where 7 organization of "negroes"(sic) who were petitioning for the passing of the langer bill in the senate which "provides for assistance to negroes who wish to return to their motherland africa", the largest known black organizations involved were: the Peace Movement of Ethiopia, the African Universal Church, the Universal Negro Improvement Association, and the Universal African Nationalist Movement," these were leagues of blacks representing BLACKS... who asked for assistance to be REPATRIATED TO AFRICA... the original Lincoln plan might have been a little economically unsound, but you make it sound like it was even less feasible in the 60's! with massive black support... and (if news of the bill would have been widely distributed) massive white taxpayer support. You realize that there have been groups since the Antebellum Period,who advocated for this? Marcus Garvey himself,who was quite insane by that time,advocated for such things! Even Malcolm X did'nt advocate for such ridiculous things.He only advocted for complete and total seperation of the races within the USA...UNTIL he went to Mecca and realized that what Elijah Mohammed AND The Nation of Islam was preaching was nothing short of bigotry! So is it the Langer Plan or the Abraham Lincoln Plan of the early '60's? Or are they basically the same thing with different names? Link,please... Edited June 9, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) deleted. Edited June 9, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 See... If I said something like that I would have said that the Confederates were forerunners to the NAZI party. But..I did'nt... No, because unlike those who make the "Progressives are Nazi's progeny" hypothesis, you are a fair-minded and rational human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 I WAS TALKING OF THE LANGER BILL Really..earlier you said it was the Lincoln Plan...it you said had 2 million signatures... Citation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) Really..earlier you said it was the Lincoln Plan...it you said had 2 million signatures... Citation? Here's a lengthy link to Lincoln's pragmatic ethos about the issue of slavery,repatriation,and finally,integration. http://asjournal.zusas.uni-halle.de/164.html Ol' Abe was'nt the huge fan of repatriation some like to think he was. Edited June 9, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Hey Lictor... How 'bout that info on Du Bois and the essay of 1903? George Bickley? Elkanah Greer? The KGC? any info on your Lincoln/Langer Plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Agreed. Just wait for the poster in question to become feverishly excited by his own doctrine. He inevitably breaks forum rules, at which point you can report him and hopefully the moderator will send him off. I don't know about the rules,but after being sliced and diced,he's notably absent.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Hey Lictor... How 'bout that info on Du Bois and the essay of 1903? George Bickley? Elkanah Greer? The KGC? any info on your Lincoln/Langer Plan? Hey Lictor.... Done the research yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Hey Lictor.... Done the research yet? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Lictor has left the building(got banned) <<a moment of silence>> I've received some...ahem...interesting pm's from him over the last few days... I don't know the protocol here about showing PM's,but...He's ...well...just..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Lictor has left the building(got banned) Best to just walk away... the system works... let's not dwell on the flotsam and jetsam of MLW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Best to just walk away... the system works... let's not dwell on the flotsam and jetsam of MLW. I agree,however,he seems to be interested in speaking just to me through PM's... I would love to show everyone what they are...They might prove instructive for the next timehe,or others of his lik,show up intellectualising their bigotry... What is the protocol? I'll let part of the cat out of the bag...He called me a reprobate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hey Lictor... It's your favourite reprobate... Done the research yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Still waiting,Whiffy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) Still waiting,Whiffy.... Play Ball,Whiffster!!!! Batter up with the research... Edited July 12, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Rands Greatest hits from the 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Hey Kanadischer(Lictor) Why don't you check out your intellectuality in this thread?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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