Duf Posted May 28, 2010 Report Posted May 28, 2010 (edited) Making Pot legal would put us on a slippery slope in my opinion. Pot is a drug, it makes one high, we already have one drug that people consume then get in a car and drive and usually end up killing innocent people that they crash into because they cannot control that vehicle properly. Now, we have a situation where "enough" people use this drug recreationaly even though it is illegal to do so. Do we legalize some other party drug because "enough" people use it and being vocal enough can try and change the law to legalize it. What is our society coming to when people have to turn to illegal substance to have fun, are we that far gone as a society that we cannot enjoy ourselves without putting ourselves at more risk by using a drug/herb, to get high? We only get one pass through this life, why would you not want to go through it and enjoy what is here with a clear head. There is so much to see, do and experience without having to blur your senses to the wonders that life holds for you. Duf Edited May 28, 2010 by Duf Quote
wyly Posted May 28, 2010 Report Posted May 28, 2010 Making Pot legal would put us on a slippery slope in my opinion. Pot is a drug, it makes one high, we already have one drug that people consume then get in a car and drive and usually end up killing innocent people that they crash into because they cannot control that vehicle properly. so do you any stats to back that up? have you ever use pot? I've never been able to identify a pot smoker by how they drive...Now, we have a situation where "enough" people use this drug recreationaly even though it is illegal to do so.Do we legalize some other party drug because "enough" people use it and being vocal enough can try and change the law to legalize it. do we criminalize the 10 million Canadians have used pot because a few don't approve? cigarettes, alcohol, caffeine why not criminalize those as well?...pot at one time was legal in Canada up to 1923, why not end the prohibition as has been done with alcohol?What is our society coming to when people have to turn to illegal substance to have fun, are we that far gone as a society that we cannot enjoy ourselves without putting ourselves at more risk by using a drug/herb, to get high?We only get one pass through this life, why would you not want to go through it and enjoy what is here with a clear head. There is so much to see, do and experience without having to blur your senses to the wonders that life holds for you. humans have been using herbs/drugs as long as we have been on earth(as do animals), not using them is what is abnormal...what others do to their bodies is of no concern to anyone else but them, as long as they pose no danger to anyone but themselves it none of your's or my business... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
ZenOps Posted May 28, 2010 Report Posted May 28, 2010 (edited) Well, Canada is doing the prudent thing then and letting California pave the path. If they don't implode (although I'd have to think if they do implode it has more to do with their F2 state bond rating) then there it would be a hard argument to continue its criminalization here. You thinking mixing pot and driving is bad? Try mixing pot with 70 million gun owners in the US... Honestly if they haven't completely blown each other away with illegal pot by now - I'd think they aren't going to blow themselves away with legalization either. North Korea has no marijuana to speak of, lets see what happens there, lol. Edited May 28, 2010 by ZenOps Quote
williat Posted May 28, 2010 Report Posted May 28, 2010 Making Pot legal would put us on a slippery slope in my opinion. Pot is a drug, it makes one high, we already have one drug that people consume then get in a car and drive and usually end up killing innocent people that they crash into because they cannot control that vehicle properly. Now, we have a situation where "enough" people use this drug recreationaly even though it is illegal to do so. Do we legalize some other party drug because "enough" people use it and being vocal enough can try and change the law to legalize it. What is our society coming to when people have to turn to illegal substance to have fun, are we that far gone as a society that we cannot enjoy ourselves without putting ourselves at more risk by using a drug/herb, to get high? We only get one pass through this life, why would you not want to go through it and enjoy what is here with a clear head. There is so much to see, do and experience without having to blur your senses to the wonders that life holds for you. Duf You should avoid wyly's comments as it appears the sole purpose of the post was to start a spitting match, this is your opinion and your entitled to it. But considering I took the time to read yours, do me the favor of reading mine. Now I will immediately tell you that I am a habitual pot smoker, I reserve it to the end of my day once my work is complete, although it is a daily occurrence. I do agree with you that the legalization of pot is an extremely touchy subject, although I believe this to be for a completely different reason, namely revolving around the US war on drugs. I honestly don't think we can make a case where we can agree that pot shouldn't be legalized, for instance alcohol as you stated has resulted in many drunk driving incidents and we can also agree that it is common knowledge today that cigarretts cause lung cancer. I don't think you should tell me that I have to go some guy who "might" be selling me what he believes to be good stuff, when others can purchase alcohol and tobacco between certain hours of the day. We've even facilitated alcohol consumption to beer drive-throughs and selling beer in corner stores, and you want to say "well we shouldn't add pot to the list because you act like a goof and probably shouldn't drive", I can't say that I disagree with your statement of living life with a clear mind, and that may be fine for you but me, I enjoy smoking a little herb. I'm not saying I think you should drive stoned, just like you shouldn't drive drunk but just because it can happen doesn't mean it shouldn't be legal. If we regulate it and make it safe, tax dollars can potentially even be earned through the sale of pot...that's all Mr.Emery was attempting to prove, do I think it was bright to go up against the US government, not really. But you've got to give it to the guy for trying, I'd say he's craving a little ganja himself as we speak Quote I don't adhere to any political school of thought, I believe in calling it like you see it, if its a good idea who cares if its Liberal, Conservative or Socialist. If it's going to benefit the country I'm all for it.
wyly Posted May 28, 2010 Report Posted May 28, 2010 You should avoid wyly's comments as it appears the sole purpose of the post was to start a spitting match, this is your opinion and your entitled to it. and my comments were my opinion and I'm entitled to them...if you don't like them I'm all to happy to tell you where to go and precisely how to get there... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
williat Posted May 28, 2010 Report Posted May 28, 2010 and my comments were my opinion and I'm entitled to them...if you don't like them I'm all to happy to tell you where to go and precisely how to get there... I was unaware that I mistakenly stated that you weren't entitled to your opinion, oh wait, I did no such thing. I merely suggested that instead of arguing over foolish responses, such as looking for stats when it was clear that a point was attempting to be made, was only going to result in a waste of time. Maybe it is time you show yourself in the direction you so cleverly thought of... Quote I don't adhere to any political school of thought, I believe in calling it like you see it, if its a good idea who cares if its Liberal, Conservative or Socialist. If it's going to benefit the country I'm all for it.
eyeball Posted May 29, 2010 Report Posted May 29, 2010 Making Pot legal would put us on a slippery slope in my opinion. Pot is a drug, it makes one high, we already have one drug that people consume then get in a car and drive and usually end up killing innocent people that they crash into because they cannot control that vehicle properly. Now, we have a situation where "enough" people use this drug recreationaly even though it is illegal to do so. Do we legalize some other party drug because "enough" people use it and being vocal enough can try and change the law to legalize it. What is our society coming to when people have to turn to illegal substance to have fun, are we that far gone as a society that we cannot enjoy ourselves without putting ourselves at more risk by using a drug/herb, to get high? We only get one pass through this life, why would you not want to go through it and enjoy what is here with a clear head. There is so much to see, do and experience without having to blur your senses to the wonders that life holds for you. Duf Did you happen to write this with a cigarette smoldering in the ash tray and a cold brown sitting beside it? Perhaps you're a member of the Prohibition Party. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
maple_leafs182 Posted May 29, 2010 Report Posted May 29, 2010 I'd say he's craving a little ganja himself as we speak lol, too soon. What is our society coming to when people have to turn to illegal substance to have fun really, you are wondering why people want to have fun. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
Battletoads Posted May 29, 2010 Report Posted May 29, 2010 Making Pot legal would put us on a slippery slope in my opinion. Pot is a drug, it makes one high, we already have one drug that people consume then get in a car and drive and usually end up killing innocent people that they crash into because they cannot control that vehicle properly. Now, we have a situation where "enough" people use this drug recreationaly even though it is illegal to do so. Do we legalize some other party drug because "enough" people use it and being vocal enough can try and change the law to legalize it. What is our society coming to when people have to turn to illegal substance to have fun, are we that far gone as a society that we cannot enjoy ourselves without putting ourselves at more risk by using a drug/herb, to get high? We only get one pass through this life, why would you not want to go through it and enjoy what is here with a clear head. There is so much to see, do and experience without having to blur your senses to the wonders that life holds for you. Democracies function off of what the people in said democracy want. If enough people want pot legalized it should be. Quote "You can lead a Conservative to knowledge, but you can't make him think."
williat Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 lol, too soon. Lol sorry maybe it was too soon. Quote I don't adhere to any political school of thought, I believe in calling it like you see it, if its a good idea who cares if its Liberal, Conservative or Socialist. If it's going to benefit the country I'm all for it.
bloodyminded Posted May 30, 2010 Report Posted May 30, 2010 Did you happen to write this with a cigarette smoldering in the ash tray and a cold brown sitting beside it? Perhaps you're a member of the Prohibition Party. Also refined sugar, caffeine.....these are, by definition, mind-altering drugs. (I love 'em both, personally....) Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
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