bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 'I'm convinced that you're not sure what you're talking about. Look...you're a smart guy....right? Do the math...the single port of Los Angeles does about $170 billion each year. China will soon eclipse Canada as the USA's #1 trading partner. This bridge issue is a major focus for Ontario/Canada, not the United States. If it were so important, the Americans would have built a dozen bridges by now. The Buffalo-Niagara Falls area has more bridges but less trade volume. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Yep, just keep going with your Canada is unimportant to the Us theme. I'll continue to laugh. The Ambassador bridge is the largest two way trade corridor in the world (the port of LA has goods coming from places other than China), and last I checked, even if China passes Canada as the #1 US trade partner (which also has to do with Canada diversifying), it won't 'eclipse' us. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) Yep, just keep going with your Canada is unimportant to the Us theme. I'll continue to laugh. The Ambassador bridge is the largest two way trade corridor in the world (the port of LA has goods coming from places other than China), and last I checked, even if China passes Canada as the #1 US trade partner (which also has to do with Canada diversifying), it won't 'eclipse' us. And you can continue with your "USA is dependent on Canada theme"....you have only proven my point that the USA is more diversified for imports/exports, regardless of the point of entry. Canada, on the other hand, exports 80% to the USA. It's not all about you... Edited May 1, 2010 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) Or less than 75%...but who's counting, right? http://www.torontosun.com/money/2010/04/06/13484651.html Edited May 1, 2010 by Smallc Quote
Machjo Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Baird made the announcement about the money Canada is going to give the state of Michigan for the NEW bridge between the two countries. If anyone has any question just read the following letter from Baird to the Gov. of Michigan. http://www.wxyz.com/media/lib/87/c/5/0/c50bfc5b-142a-4512-a6d7-931e590fb5bc/Letter_to_Governor_Granholm_from_Min_Baird.pdf This is ridiculous. Now that we're facing inflation, rising interest rates, and Federal debt, certainly now is not the time for the government to be spending. Could the government not have waited for the next recession to rebuild the bridge? Here's what I see happening. With no plan for the next recession, we're simply spending money to fix anything that needs fixing. Then when the next recession strikes, since everything will be fixed already, we'll then have to spend money on make-work jobs. Instead, would it not make sense, now that we're facing inflation, rising interest rates, and government debt to focus on paying off the debt right now? that way, the next time we're hit by deflation, then we could spend on real projects in need like fixing an old bridge genuinely in need of repair rather than wasting money on make-work projects? Would that not be a better idea? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Smallc Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) I think you're totally missing the point. This isn't really about jobs for the construction, it's about more efficient trade, something that will imporve productivity. Edited May 1, 2010 by Smallc Quote
Topaz Posted May 1, 2010 Author Report Posted May 1, 2010 While you guys are debating over the US/Canada theme, manufacturing goods from MEXICO are moving north into both countries putting people out of work or to low paying jobs! Isn`t that he reason for this NEW bridge?? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Or less than 75%...but who's counting, right? http://www.torontosun.com/money/2010/04/06/13484651.html Oh....that's much better...only 75%! No wonder Ontario has been screaming for a new bridge so long. Meanwhile, the USA is spending far more building fences and patrolling the borders north and south....how ironic. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 While you guys are debating over the US/Canada theme, manufacturing goods from MEXICO are moving north into both countries putting people out of work or to low paying jobs! Isn`t that he reason for this NEW bridge?? Of course....Canada doesn't like the competition! Mexico is an important trading partner...it's even part of NAFTA, believe it or not. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Machjo Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 I think you're totally missing the point. This isn't really about jobs for the construction, it's about more efficient trade, something that will imporve productivity. Then instead of bailing out big business, could the Federal Government not have foreseen this real need and put the money into building this bridge while we were in deflation for a short time last year rather than now that we are out of recession? It's all about timing. The government should not be increasing spending in good times, but in bad times. If it intended to fix this bridge, it should have given the money for it while we were in the depths of recession last year, not now. Now is too late for that, and I must assume the bridge could wait another few years until the next recession to get a good fixing. If it really is in such a bad shape, why did the government fail to think of it then instead of creating a bunch of make-work jobs? Now is too late for that until the next recession. Now we have inflation, debt, and interest rates to deal with. Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Machjo Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 While you guys are debating over the US/Canada theme, manufacturing goods from MEXICO are moving north into both countries putting people out of work or to low paying jobs! Isn`t that he reason for this NEW bridge?? If the Mexicans can produce something more efficiently than we can, we'd be stupid not to take advantage of it. What we need to do is improve education and focus on producing what we can do most efficiently and sell that to Mexico. You seem to be short-sited here. I remember living in Montreal long ago and then moving to Toronto at a higher-paying job, only to realize that with the cost of living in Toronto, I was better off in the lower-paying job in Montreal! The same applies here. If Canada should raise stop trade, our salaries might go up, but the cost of goods and cervices would likely go up further along with a decline in the CAD. I'd rather earn less and be able to afford things than earn 'more' and not be able to! Looking at income alone is short-sighted at best. We must look at the overall impact, not just salaries. If salaries go up 10% but costs go up 50%, would you not rather go back to the lower salary? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Jack Weber Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) Yep, just keep going with your Canada is unimportant to the Us theme. I'll continue to laugh. The Ambassador bridge is the largest two way trade corridor in the world (the port of LA has goods coming from places other than China), and last I checked, even if China passes Canada as the #1 US trade partner (which also has to do with Canada diversifying), it won't 'eclipse' us. Why do you waste your time with this boob? The guy is a classless jerk who seems to constantly need to reinforce his believe in his vicarious "greatness" by spending time on a Canadian political message board by telling us how insignificant and smug we are.It's not like he has anything else to add to anything here? He claims to enjoy being the "ugly American" but he is simply a douchebag blowhard. The ignore button is a wonderful thing,and since he received it from me,the silence is golden!!!! Edited May 1, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 ....The ignore button is a wonderful thing,and since he received it from me,the silence is golden!!!! Apparently the ignore button doesn't work in Canada! LOL!!!!!! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jack Weber Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Did someone say something? Maybe not.... Oh well,back to the golden silence and serentiy.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Did someone say something? Maybe not.... Oh well,back to the golden silence and serentiy.... You'll be back, just like before...like a moth to a flame. "Why doesn't everybody just ignore him...."? Hell, you can't even take your own advice, so why would anybody else? What a Bozo.... In addition to being the resident "Ugly American", I am also upholding the "honor" of Mexico, which is the full fledged NAFTA partner that some Canadians want to forget. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jack Weber Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Ahhhh....Silence.....How calming and tranquil.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Argus Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 Of course I realize it, but that doesn't mean this is the biggest thing we have going on. Also, as I said previously, going for this option is a bigger deal to Canada. This is the option Canada prefers, and therefore this option is a bigger deal to Canada. Thus the offer, as I pointed out. So yes, I'm fully aware of the fact that this is the largest trade corridor for both the U.S. and Canada, but we aren't going to automatically do it the way Canada wants it done. Since a number of Michiganders are the most affected by it Yes, 1. But he counts for more than the rest since he owns a number of your corrupt politicians. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 According to your Infrastructure and Transportation Minister it is. Politicians are prone to making dramatic statements. On the other hand, the federal government doesn't build a lot of things these days. Mostly the private sector does that. In your country, which is much more socialist than we are in those terms, the government tends to pay for almost everything. Is that what your politicians do? Thanks for the insight. Our politicians are not as corrupt as yours. I don't think there is a political system in the western world which is as corrupt as yours. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 ....yea, the politicians in Canada would never do that! LOL!!!!!!!! Our system was never anywhere near as corrupt as yours. And since donations from non voters (ie, corporations, lobbyists and unions) were banned, it's become far better. Yours gets more corrupt every year. Most of your legislation now is written not by the politicians but by their paymasters. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 Of course....Canada doesn't like the competition! Mexico is an important trading partner...it's even part of NAFTA, believe it or not. I'm wondering if I will live long enough to see Mexico absorb the United States. :-) It's going to happen, you know. All your southern states will soon be majority Hispanic, and they appear to have more feelings for their linguistic brethren south of the border than for yankees. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Jack Weber Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) Our system was never anywhere near as corrupt as yours. And since donations from non voters (ie, corporations, lobbyists and unions) were banned, it's become far better. Yours gets more corrupt every year. Most of your legislation now is written not by the politicians but by their paymasters. And it's getting worse down there... Edited May 2, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Smallc Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 I must say, that's something I've thought for a long time. The things that happen in the US are clearly driven by money most of the time. People seem to have very little actual meaning. On another note, you're right, silence is golden. Quote
Jack Weber Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 I must say, that's something I've thought for a long time. The things that happen in the US are clearly driven by money most of the time. People seem to have very little actual meaning. On another note, you're right, silence is golden. So you've learned the trick to tuning out our blowhard "friend"? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 Our system was never anywhere near as corrupt as yours. And since donations from non voters (ie, corporations, lobbyists and unions) were banned, it's become far better. Yours gets more corrupt every year. Most of your legislation now is written not by the politicians but by their paymasters. That's because corruption is normalized as mainstream in Canada: National Post October 03rd, 2003 By Stephen Edwards NEW YORK - Canadian business chiefs expressed alarm yesterday as a leading international index on competitiveness showed Canada had plunged from ninth to 16th place over the last year. The Geneva-based World Economic Forum will officially release its 2003-2004 rankings today, saying Canada’s fall is mainly caused by a marked decline in the level of confidence business operators have in the government’s ability to limit corruption and bias in the public sector. Of greatest concern to the business operators, according to the Global Competitiveness Report, is “favouritism in decisions of government officials.” Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Posted May 2, 2010 I must say, that's something I've thought for a long time. The things that happen in the US are clearly driven by money most of the time. People seem to have very little actual meaning. Yet there are more than 300,000,000 of them from all over the world...including Canada....with no "meaning". LOL! Do tell us about all the "meaning" found in Winnipeg! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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