Smallc Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 Awww, I'm hurt, I don't even get a mention. Quote
bloodyminded Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 Thanks Scorpio, Ghosthacked, and Bloodyminded. Can't figure out where August is coming from with his insistance that I'm "pretending" Trudeau said that. Evidently my being an American has something to do with it, but I haven't been able to figure out quite what. Especially since I cited a Canadian source, too. But since it's in Trudeau's memoirs, guess that sets the record straight, so I'm sure August will be acknowledging it any time now..... Oh, sure he will...... Probably you pretended Trudeau's memoirs into being anyway. And yes, it likely has something to do with your being an American. Augusts' two great dislikes are these massive caricatures of things he calls "Americans" and "the left"--neither of which seem to share many attributes in common with the actual entities. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Guest American Woman Posted March 3, 2010 Report Posted March 3, 2010 Awww, I'm hurt, I don't even get a mention. Oops! Sorry Smallc. Thanks to you, too....I do believe you were the first Canadian to come to this American's rescue. Quote
BubberMiley Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 I'm still just trying to figure out what Canada's civil code is. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
GostHacked Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 Oops! Sorry Smallc. Thanks to you, too....I do believe you were the first Canadian to come to this American's rescue. The Internet is a wonderful thing. Or else, I'd have to run on down to the bilioteca to find all this out. I am sure they have his book on file in some library around here. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 I'm still just trying to figure out what Canada's civil code is. Not saying what you think? Not being able to say what you think? Seems to me that's what August is saying. Glad to hear you're confused, too, though; I thought I didn't know what Canada's civil code is because I'm an American. Quote
bloodyminded Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 Not saying what you think? Not being able to say what you think? Seems to me that's what August is saying. Glad to hear you're confused, too, though; I thought I didn't know what Canada's civil code is because I'm an American. All Canadians are inherently confused. It's part of our culture. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
PIK Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 Trudeau did more for the separtist then anybody, I think he was one. Tore the engish culture right out of this country , but protected the french culture. Trudeau will go down as one of the worst PM's in history and we are still paying for his crimes against the country. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Mr.Canada Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 Trudeau destroyed Canada single handedly by introducing that Multiculturalism crap in 1971 then putting in the Constituion in 1982. The man is a traitor to his country. What else can we expect from the man who was a communist. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
scorpio Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 The Constitution makes him a traitor? I think the two posters above you need to go back and read some "real" history, instead of parroting the right wing crap they've been fed. Trudeau was a staunch federalist and did not cater to Quebec in regards to our constitution. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 The Constitution makes him a traitor? Mr.Canada is continuously showing just how messed up his thought process is. Quote
jbg Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 It wasn't just a gift to Quebecers. It was a gift to all Canadians.Where is the "gift", having everything in duplicate? Forcing French down the throats of unwilling Albertans and British Columbians? The thought was that Quebec would join a happy, harmonious Canadian party if only the use of French outside of Quebec was increased. They still refused to sign onto the patriation of the Constitution. No, I'm simply right. I have a couple of family members in the civil service who can't speak any French. I'm focusing more on areas such as Toronto and Ottawa, where there is some demand for French but not enough that everyone needs to speak it. These areas are where English-speakers suffer a loss of employment opportunity, and in the military. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 And the 2 that followed him as P.M.s were no better. Do you mean Clark and Mulroney or Mulroney and Campbell? There are ambiguities in your post. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Smallc Posted March 4, 2010 Report Posted March 4, 2010 Where is the "gift", having everything in duplicate? Considering we were formed by two major language groups, yes. Forcing French down the throats of unwilling Albertans and British Columbians? Who cares what they think. It really doesn't affect them all that much. What it does do, os allow Canadians in either language to access government services where they should be reasonably expected. Even the Quebec provincial government has to provide service in English on request because of our guarantees and bilingualism. The thought was that Quebec would join a happy, harmonious Canadian party if only the use of French outside of Quebec was increased. They still refused to sign onto the patriation of the Constitution. It doesn't matter, since signing on was a meaningless gesture. Really, that was a long time ago. I'm focusing more on areas such as Toronto and Ottawa, where there is some demand for French but not enough that everyone needs to speak it. These areas are where English-speakers suffer a loss of employment opportunity, and in the military. there are programs to help people in the civil service learn the other language where necessary. To join the military, you don't need to know both languages, just as with the RCMP. With CSIS, or the CSEC you do though. Quote
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 Where is the "gift", having everything in duplicate? Forcing French down the throats of unwilling Albertans and British Columbians? The thought was that Quebec would join a happy, harmonious Canadian party if only the use of French outside of Quebec was increased. They still refused to sign onto the patriation of the Constitution. I'm focusing more on areas such as Toronto and Ottawa, where there is some demand for French but not enough that everyone needs to speak it. These areas are where English-speakers suffer a loss of employment opportunity, and in the military. when was French forced down anyone's throat in Alberta and BC please tell us when this grievous assault took place, why is it I only know a dozen words of French? Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
scorpio Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 when was French forced down anyone's throat in Alberta and BC please tell us when this grievous assault took place, why is it I only know a dozen words of French? Yeah, as an Albertan I'd like to know that too, and I speak even fewer words in French. Quote
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 there are programs to help people in the civil service learn the other language where necessary. To join the military, you don't need to know both languages, just as with the RCMP. With CSIS, or the CSEC you do though. I regret not learning French when I had the opportunity...here's a Euro joke... If you speak four languages you are multilingual If you speak three languages you are trilingual.. If you speak two languages you're bilingual what are you if you speak only one language................................american.... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 I regret not learning French when I had the opportunity... I wish I was given the opportunity. I lived in a very small place with no French in its school program. I've been trying to learn now through software, but I'm not doing great. Quote
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 Yeah, as an Albertan I'd like to know that too, and I speak even fewer words in French. one of my daughters is officially bilingual after 4 or 5 years of French instruction how hard was that? a whole world of job opportunites open up for her efforts... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
scorpio Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 It's amazing how quickly the rabid right pounces when Trudeau's name is mentioned. The guy has been out of politics for 26 years, dead 10 years. Get over it. Quote
scorpio Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 one of my daughters is officially bilingual after 4 or 5 years of French instruction how hard was that? a whole world of job opportunites open up for her efforts... I don't think Trudeau went far enough; I would have like to have seen French immersion from kindergarten to grade 12. And you're right, many more opportunites do open up with another language under your belt. Quote
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 I wish I was given the opportunity. I lived in a very small place with no French in its school program. I've been trying to learn now through software, but I'm not doing great. of course it's so much easier when you're young...my wife wants to move to France or Spain on her retirement I'm quick at picking up language but it gets more and more difficult as you age so the the thought of going there frightens me a bit... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 I don't think Trudeau went far enough; I would have like to have seen French immersion from kindergarten to grade 12. And you're right, many more opportunites do open up with another language under your belt. there are those opportunities for french immersion in urban areas but not nearly enough, near my home there is a Spanish immersion I would have loved to put my son in there but he was considered to old for the program... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Posted March 5, 2010 It's amazing how quickly the rabid right pounces when Trudeau's name is mentioned. The guy has been out of politics for 26 years, dead 10 years. Get over it. it kills some in Alberta they can't blame him for the collapse of the energy sector with a conservative Federal and Provincial government... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
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