NEW WORLD ORDER IS HERE.

GostHacked · March 3, 2011

A conspiracy is something done in secret. If it is not done in secret, it is not a conspiracy.

.....and that isn't even touching on the nutty aspects of it all....but an indicator of the nutty aspects

It's not being done in secret. The way I see it is the centralization of power that has been going on in almost every aspect of our society. Governments are getting more centralized on the state/federal and international level. The UN is a world governing body (as ineffective as they are) Corporations are combining and buying up smaller entities, nationally and internationally. And now you are seeing the stock exchanges and money markets converge. (the US/German merger and the British/Canadian market merges).

The EU is a perfect example of one phase of the New World Order. Which to me proves and easily shows centralization of government, economics (the euro), military and law enforcement. That had been in the works for decades. You got the African Union, which has been in place for a short while. Not many know it exists. And we have heard of the North American Union the NAU which was promoting a currency for the NAU.

I guess at one point it would have been hidden, but the plan is well under way and it seems very obvious to me. Centralization.

M.Dancer · March 3, 2011

And we have heard of the North American Union the NAU which was promoting a currency for the NAU.

:lol:

Please go on...

BTW, after you have shown an example of this secret NAU promoting a NAU currency, what currency does the UK, a charter member of the European union use?

Mr.Canada · March 3, 2011

The new world order is a Pan Islamic one. Where there is one religion which is Islam and one ruler for the entire world , which will be a Muslim Cleric.

Jack Weber · March 3, 2011

Correct, the NWO conspiracy is not hidden.

So your a subscriber to the so called "Open Conspiracy Theory",in that, what used to be secretive is now being revealed out in the open??

And that it's so large and fantastic that no one can fathom it or believe it??

It's kinda like the Goebbels Big Lie theory....

GostHacked · March 3, 2011

So your a subscriber to the so called "Open Conspiracy Theory",in that, what used to be secretive is now being revealed out in the open??

Yeah, you can call me a subscriber to that line of thinking.

And that it's so large and fantastic that no one can fathom it or believe it??

Correct.

It's kinda like the Goebbels Big Lie theory....

In essence it could be like that. Although I am not going to touch the Big Lie theory specifically (that's a can o worms) the concept of the big lie would pretty much be the same.

maple_leafs182 · March 4, 2011

Yeah, you can call me a subscriber to that line of thinking.

There is no conspiracy.

What we have now came to be as a result of the natural progression that had occurred based on the influences of our current economic model.

We have to look at what the market economy and monetary system truly produces. Personally, I think success would be ending something like world hunger or pollution, do you not agree those things should be priority? Our current economic system does not produces those results.

The people in the middle east are protesting because of inflation on food and energy prices, they also have the highest unemployment rate for youth(ages 15-29) in the world at around 20% to 25%. Those are the reasons why they are protesting, it has nothing to do with democracy or religion.

Do you get what I am saying?

Those protests are a natural and predictable outcome if we simply look at things economically. Same thing goes for the new world order, what looks to be a conspiracy is a natural progression.

Oleg Bach · March 4, 2011

Yah the New World Order Is Here................and I AM IN CHARGE...GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT? If you do - then YOU be in charge...people whine to much about what they percieve as god like beings running the planet...It is all about the power of blief..YOU want to believe that there are sinister pricks running the world - then those sinister pricks will run the world! It's up to YOU...the sacred indiviual to run the world - we ARE the new world order...and that order is not the collective insect kind of order - but order that comes from individuals being free..............I AM FREE - and the so-called NWO - can kiss my ass.

Oleg Bach · March 25, 2011

All the new world order is - is the total and utter success of capitalism and the fulfillment of the ultmate finacial dream - that goes beyond what we percieve is money - power and domination...it the peaking of capitalism...NOT the accumulation of more wealth...when men have wealth in the billions..the next best thrill is pretending you are god.....once this takes place - a rapid decline and disorder forms as we now see.

GostHacked · March 25, 2011

Oleg, there is no order. This is the New World Disorder. Then you will get order out of chaos.

Oleg Bach · March 25, 2011

Oleg, there is no order. This is the New World Disorder. Then you will get order out of chaos.

I did say that "disorder" has formed....This stuff about order out of chaos...sound like some crap that Alex Jones was free to perpetuate...human beings can not get order out of chaos...they are simply not smart enough...You can not spend a thousand years developing a civilzation - tear it down and make it chaotic - and expect to build up some perfectly orderly planet...we evolved to this point socially....who ever believes they can do better instantly is an arrogant fool!

GostHacked · March 25, 2011

I did say that "disorder" has formed....This stuff about order out of chaos...sound like some crap that Alex Jones was free to perpetuate...human beings can not get order out of chaos...they are simply not smart enough...You can not spend a thousand years developing a civilzation - tear it down and make it chaotic - and expect to build up some perfectly orderly planet...we evolved to this point socially....who ever believes they can do better instantly is an arrogant fool!

The arrogant ones are the ones who currently control the UN and the like. Look around the globe, you have more riots in the last year in many 'civilized' westernized countries than ever before.

Countries that enabled austerity measures or have had governments fail (higher taxes and fees because of the nations banks borrowing more than they could pay back to the world bank and IMF)

Britain

France

Spain

Germany

Greece

Italy

Portugal

Ireland

Belgium

Iceland

Slovenia

Countries currently going through 'revolutions'

Egypt

Tunisia

Algeria

Syria

Bahrain

Lebanon

Yemen

Sudan

Algeria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_sovereign_debt_crisis_(2010%E2%80%93present)

The financial melt down in the US over the past 4 years has contributed to much of what you see around the EU, ME and Africa.

Bonam · March 25, 2011

It's not being done in secret. The way I see it is the centralization of power that has been going on in almost every aspect of our society. Governments are getting more centralized on the state/federal and international level. The UN is a world governing body (as ineffective as they are) Corporations are combining and buying up smaller entities, nationally and internationally. And now you are seeing the stock exchanges and money markets converge. (the US/German merger and the British/Canadian market merges).

The EU is a perfect example of one phase of the New World Order. Which to me proves and easily shows centralization of government, economics (the euro), military and law enforcement. That had been in the works for decades. You got the African Union, which has been in place for a short while.

And what exactly is wrong with any of this? The EU is mutually beneficial to many people living in Europe, allowing them increased freedom of movement and job opportunities. As age old tribal distinctions between various groups of humans become less and less relevant and the animosities between them become history, they grow closer ties and form unified economic and political structures. This is a natural and continuous process. As humanity continues to grow in number, progress in technology, and expand outward, nations will continue to form partnerships and multinational organizations, which will over time merge together and lead towards an ever more united Earth.

Look at almost any science fiction work set in a future where humanity has expanded out beyond Earth: almost universally, Earth has a single, unified, government. This is a natural result of technological progress, which allows people to become more interconnected. Moreover, unification is a necessity in order for future generations to be able to undertake the kinds of projects that will be needed for humanity's long term survival, whether it is the colonization of other planets and star systems, dealing with cosmic natural disasters, or encountering and interacting with other intelligent civilizations.

The key thing to understand is that nations do not surrender their sovereignty except when they find it to be greatly beneficial. Clearly, Western countries will not join unions with and become subordinate to the wishes of third world nations, as that would not be beneficial to western inhabitants. That is one of the reasons for the utter inefficacy of the UN: it tries to hold sway over and represent simultaneously advanced nations and third world rabble.

But, joining unions with nations that are of a comparable level of advancement increases opportunities and enables economic growth, as well as simply making things more convenient for more people by reducing barriers. As various parts of the world continue to catch up to the current forerunners, the creation of unified political structures between these nations will become beneficial and will thus over time become a reality. By the end of the 21st century, if human civilization and technology has continued to advance, I would certainly predict that a centralized world government would exercise substantial sovereignty and that individual states/nations would have reduced sovereignty as compared to today, and I don't particularly see anything wrong with that.

Edited March 25, 2011 by Bonam

Oleg Bach · April 2, 2011

Odd how the new world order seems to go more out of order the more the order things about.

Sir Bandelot · April 2, 2011

What bothers me is the incremental loss of freedoms, and increase in government control. Even down to petty things where the state wants to dictate our choices. Increasingly harsher punishments for minor offenses. Increasing de-humanization and loss of respect for the value of an individual, a human being.

Each generation of people is born into the system believing that the situation is normal and acceptable. Indoctrination of youth at an early age, along with complete dependency on the system in order to survive, means that it cannot be challenged. Else, death. So even if there is some awareness of the problem, it is always a choice between the lesser of evils.

At least in the past people were under the illusion that we live in a just society where each person has the same potential opportunity. Now the system is in a state of decline and showing the strain from years of corruption and exploitation. Yet there is no way to change course, short of catastrophe. The children of the bourgeoisie now no longer conceal their garish acts of exploitation, bringing about the modern disillusionment of the masses, loss of faith in the system, decline of consumerism, further contraction as the elite grab in a frenzy whatever there is left to take. It's the death throes of society.

Smell that smell? New world odor.

GostHacked · April 2, 2011

Sir Bandelot, that is a great post. The loss of freedoms is very important to note. We have been conditioned to accept more and more invasiveness to our privacy and rights. Use the TSA as an example of how this conditioning is done. It's all being done in the name of security from terrorism, but when it gets to the point where some will realize that it's gone to far, it might already be too late to turn back.

Again, great post!

Oleg Bach · April 2, 2011

Don't worry - one of the new order boys asks me for advice on occassion - now how smart is that?

Saipan · April 2, 2011

You wouldn't believe me if I told you how well the technique Divide and Conquer works for controlling populations.

To enslave them you have to first disarm them. Just like Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Castro.... did.

GWiz · April 2, 2011

To enslave them you have to first disarm them. Just like Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Castro.... did.

Not necessarily...

You could welcome them to your side with their guns, like the Republicans in the US are accepting the gun totting more radical "tea partiers" into their fold... :huh:

Then it becomes easier to enslave those that are left out... Which is in fact what all those "heros" of yours you mention, both on the left and on the right, actually did...

Saipan · April 3, 2011

The arrogant ones are the ones who currently control the UN and the like. Look around the globe, you have more riots in the last year in many 'civilized' westernized countries than ever before.

They experimented with politically correct immigration and now they reap what they have sown.

Saipan · April 3, 2011

You could welcome them to your side with their guns

Didn't work for Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro..... You can welcome only those who really like your ideas. They had no choice but to disarm the population AND make sure they can't escape - unless they want to risk their very lives.

Saipan · April 3, 2011

The financial melt down in the US over the past 4 years has contributed to much of what you see around the EU, ME and Africa.

Americans told Greeks, Irish, Portuguese and all others to go belly up?

Quite a superpower, eh.

Bob · April 3, 2011

And what exactly is wrong with any of this? The EU is mutually beneficial to many people living in Europe, allowing them increased freedom of movement and job opportunities. As age old tribal distinctions between various groups of humans become less and less relevant and the animosities between them become history, they grow closer ties and form unified economic and political structures. This is a natural and continuous process. As humanity continues to grow in number, progress in technology, and expand outward, nations will continue to form partnerships and multinational organizations, which will over time merge together and lead towards an ever more united Earth.

Look at almost any science fiction work set in a future where humanity has expanded out beyond Earth: almost universally, Earth has a single, unified, government. This is a natural result of technological progress, which allows people to become more interconnected. Moreover, unification is a necessity in order for future generations to be able to undertake the kinds of projects that will be needed for humanity's long term survival, whether it is the colonization of other planets and star systems, dealing with cosmic natural disasters, or encountering and interacting with other intelligent civilizations.

The key thing to understand is that nations do not surrender their sovereignty except when they find it to be greatly beneficial. Clearly, Western countries will not join unions with and become subordinate to the wishes of third world nations, as that would not be beneficial to western inhabitants. That is one of the reasons for the utter inefficacy of the UN: it tries to hold sway over and represent simultaneously advanced nations and third world rabble.

But, joining unions with nations that are of a comparable level of advancement increases opportunities and enables economic growth, as well as simply making things more convenient for more people by reducing barriers. As various parts of the world continue to catch up to the current forerunners, the creation of unified political structures between these nations will become beneficial and will thus over time become a reality. By the end of the 21st century, if human civilization and technology has continued to advance, I would certainly predict that a centralized world government would exercise substantial sovereignty and that individual states/nations would have reduced sovereignty as compared to today, and I don't particularly see anything wrong with that.

I knew it - deep down you're a communist. Without going into details, I reject most of what you've said. I don't think unification/consolidation of varying peoples is a natural phenomenon or unstoppable force of nature that we can expect to continue growing. I would credit increased globalism to certain ideologues in positions of power push for these objectives. I'm not Alex Jones fanboy, but there are certainly disturbing trends with respect to increasing consolidation in certain economic and political arenas. In other words, I don't think there is some small group of men sitting around a table orchestrating these things, but when men of power have these political leanings, they advance this process. Sometimes it's ok, and sometimes it's not. As an aside, I view Obama as a President who is inclined to largely agree with this mentality, or at the very least, he's much more inclined to be an "internationalist" than those who've come before him. He's one of the many who view the world "international" in a positive light.

Oleg Bach · April 3, 2011

Awh! You give these big dogs to much credit. The big boys love to be made legendary - they love being feared and made into romatic villians...It's all in your mind - just as it is in theirs. People only have power if you grant them power - if you believe in them..then they flourish - I personally don't believe in the new world order..and by doing so - I do not add to the power of these overly ambitious jerks - who behave like satanists...world domination did not work for the arch angel Satan...and it will not work for these newbees either. Funny - even the devil played by devine rules...these new guys are rejected by the devil himself...Imagine falling so low that even the devil does not want you. Meanwhile they actually believe they are rising to the highest heights...all human beings perish and fade away...

"What good does it do a man to own the whole world and to lose his MORTAL soul" - translated.................MORTAL - everyone will pass away..so this end game never ends in success - just death..the most powerful - is rendered the poorest and weakest in the end.

Sir Bandelot · April 3, 2011

What about that Bilderberg stuff then. I have heard rumours about it. They have meetings with most of the big players, the wealthy and politically connected. Presidents, PM's, Royals. Yet their meetings are held in secret, behinf high security barriers.

So what are they talking about that's so important, and why can't we know what it is.

Oleg Bach · April 3, 2011

What about that Bilderberg stuff then. I have heard rumours about it. They have meetings with most of the big players, the wealthy and politically connected. Presidents, PM's, Royals. Yet their meetings are held in secret, behinf high security barriers.

So what are they talking about that's so important, and why can't we know what it is.

These guys are the the same kids that bossed around their parents...Brats....They from what I understand love one thing dearly...Intrigue! There mentality is very sporting. These people you mention are highly dependant on legend. YES they meet...and yes you can hire a bunch of stupid guys in suits that carry guns...if you have enough money you can buy just about any human being - and appear important. The real movers and shakers take the subway and don't bother with such clubish game playing...They really don't need to meet...but they like to feel important..in the eyes of YOU and I. An old lawyer once said to me "I lead by following" - the real big dogs have no egos..They are actually nice guys and honourable...Those that put themselves in the public eye (Bilderberg) - might think they are in control and want control - but they are kept under control by good men...don't worry so much!