The Problem with American Liberals

[bloodyminded]

How did this thread turn to gay marriage?

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Something Obama said illustrates perfectly the mindset of the American Liberal. In an unguarded moment his, "clinging to their guns and religion..." comment told you all you needed to know about his position on 'flyover' country.

Then by your logic, something Palin said ilustrates perfectly "the mindset of the American" conservative:

namely, that "real" Americans live in small towns and rural areas....as opposed to the majority of Americans.

Edited February 9, 2010 by bloodyminded

[Michael Hardner]

Those real Americans receive disproportionate representation, for example in the Senate where each state gets 2 senators - whether it's New York or Montana.

[sharkman]

Then by your logic, something Palin said ilustrates perfectly "the mindset of the American" conservative:

namely, that "real" Americans live in small towns and rural areas....as opposed to the majority of Americans.

Yes, exactly. Real Americans live there. She doesn't view them as being less depending on their gun or bible count as Obama does. Notice also she doesn't say anything bad about major urban areas, where the majority of Americans live. You had to infer that.

Edited February 9, 2010 by sharkman

[Guest American Woman]

Yes, exactly. Real Americans live there. She doesn't view them as being less depending on their gun or bible count as Obama does. Notice also she doesn't say anything bad about major urban areas, where the majority of Americans live. You had to infer that.

"Infer?"

"We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."

The "best part of America" is in the small towns, and that's the "real America." The "pro-America" part of the U.S., evidently.

But yeah. One has to "infer" that she's not saying anything negative about major urban areas.

[eyeball]

Well they certainly have more than me. To me, the average voter resmembles a cow chewing its cud, eyes dull, tail swinging idly, unthinking, uncaring, responding only to the prod.

Perhaps you're just seeing what you'd like to see.

Did I hear someone mention you were a civil servant? Do you wield a prod in the course of your job by any chance?

[sharkman]

"Infer?"

"We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."

The "best part of America" is in the small towns, and that's the "real America." The "pro-America" part of the U.S., evidently.

But yeah. One has to "infer" that she's not saying anything negative about major urban areas.

And where did she put down a segment of Americans, I'm having trouble seeing it. Obama quite clearly put down rural America with his clinging to guns and religion remarks. Palin simply did not. Saying a certain region is the best of America does not equate. I'm sure we could drag up quotes of both all day saying ______(fill in the blank) is the best of the country depending on which crowd they are talking to.

[Guest American Woman]

And where did she put down a segment of Americans, I'm having trouble seeing it.

I don't doubt for a minute that you're having trouble seeing it.

[sharkman]

And that is the problem with American liberals. A condescending attitude, we just don't 'get it', do we?

[Guest American Woman]

And that is the problem with American liberals. A condescending attitude, we just don't 'get it', do we?

Let me spell it out for you. You choose not to see it.

[bloodyminded]

And that is the problem with American liberals. A condescending attitude, we just don't 'get it', do we?

Oh, no. You are "inferring" American Woman's point, and incorrectly.

Obama quite clearly put down rural America with his clinging to guns and religion remarks. Palin simply did not. Saying a certain region is the best of America does not equate.

Please. If rural areas and small towns are "the best of America," as you put it, then by definition those regions that are not rural and small town are inferior.

That is, the majority of the country. The majority of the population.

This kind of faux-populism is itself a form of elitism, of snobbery.

And it's extremely condescending...meaning you shouldn't like it, I would think.

Edited February 15, 2010 by bloodyminded