Future of Canada

Wilber · January 30, 2010

Not relevant as long as it motivates unemployed anarchists to throw rocks at G8/G20 summits. Political polarization is more important than precision.

Unfortunately

maple_leafs182 · January 30, 2010

Just sayin'...it is a popular myth that ONLY ethnic Japanese were interned or restricted. In the USA, at least 11,000 Germans / children were hauled off to internment camps.

So much for the bill of rights, i guess it really is just a bill of privileges that can be taken away.

Not relevant as long as it motivates unemployed anarchists to throw rocks at G8/G20 summits.

Not to sure what you mean by this, can you elaborate.

Gabriel · January 30, 2010

I found this article, I would like all your opinion on it and ask one question, is this Harper HIDDEN agenda? http://www.infowars.com/prime-minister-harper-officially-endorses-north-american-union/

Come on, Topaz... I thought you were a smart guy. You can't honestly believe this story. Harper has never said anything even remotely suggesting that he desires some sort of North American union. How can you create this thread with the fake story and still keep a straight face? Please don't be one of those freaks who tries to suggest that agreements between the USA and Canada (and perhaps Mexico) on important issues is somehow synonymous with us all becoming on state.

Edited January 30, 2010 by Gabriel

maple_leafs182 · January 30, 2010

Come on, Topaz... I thought you were a smart guy. You can't honestly believe this story. Harper has never said anything even remotely suggesting that he desires some sort of North American union. How can you create this thread with the fake story and still keep a straight face? Please don't be one of those freaks who tries to suggest that agreements between the USA and Canada (and perhaps Mexico) on important issues is somehow synonymous with us all becoming on state.

google "security and prosperity partnership of north america"

Smallc · January 30, 2010

google "security and prosperity partnership of north america"

Now google "tinfoil hat".

maple_leafs182 · January 30, 2010

Now google "tinfoil hat".

don't be ignorant

Smallc · January 30, 2010

don't be ignorant

I'm not. Just because I don't buy every conspiracy theory that comes along, it doesn't mean that I'm being ignorant.

maple_leafs182 · January 30, 2010

I'm not. Just because I don't buy every conspiracy theory that comes along, it doesn't mean that I'm being ignorant.

How is it just a theory.

Smallc · January 30, 2010

How is it just a theory.

The SPP has nothing to do with a potential NAU.

maple_leafs182 · January 30, 2010

The SPP has nothing to do with a potential NAU.

How does it have nothing to do with a potential NAU, it has everything to do with a potential NAU.

Who developed the SPP, the Council on foreign relations, who are some members of the CFR,

Democrats that ran for nomination/president in 2008 that are members of the CFR

Barack Obama

Hillary Clinton

John Edwards

Chris Dodd

Bill Richardson

Republicans that ran for nomination/president in 2008 that are members of the CFR

Mitt Romney

Rudy Giuliani

John McCain

Fred Thompson

Edited January 30, 2010 by maple_leafs182

ToadBrother · January 31, 2010

I will use it as I please.... in contemporary "Bush is a fascist" context. If you don't like that, fine, but it doesn't make me an idiot. Who died and left you smart?

Bush wasn't a fascist either, and while deliberately using a word in a false context to create some sort of guilt by association may not be idiotic, it's an extraordinarily dishonest tactic. Words have meanings and contexts. How can anyone have a meaningful discussion where you feel at liberty to provide any private definition you please?

bush_cheney2004 · January 31, 2010

Bush wasn't a fascist either, and while deliberately using a word in a false context to create some sort of guilt by association may not be idiotic, it's an extraordinarily dishonest tactic. Words have meanings and contexts. How can anyone have a meaningful discussion where you feel at liberty to provide any private definition you please?

Because that is the purpose for devolving the status quo....in words and pictures. You can't insist on not only prevailing in the argument but also demand that the language and standards of the argument be controlled by the entrenched power structure. This is why William F. Buckley lost audience share. :lol:

Jerry J. Fortin · January 31, 2010

Because that is the purpose for devolving the status quo....in words and pictures. You can't insist on not only prevailing in the argument but also demand that the language and standards of the argument be controlled by the entrenched power structure. This is why William F. Buckley lost audience share.

Bush....what can anyone say other than "He was a dork". Then again I never was, am not, and will likely never be an Obama fan. They are two very different guys....yet neither one has made a very good US President to date. Even with a majority Obama has issues dealing with issues.

One of these days the Americans are going to start telling their government what to do, and then things will be changing quickly.

bush_cheney2004 · January 31, 2010

One of these days the Americans are going to start telling their government what to do, and then things will be changing quickly.

Bush was a re-elected "dork"....Canadians can't/won't make such a commitment so fractured be the voting (and non-voting)interests, if only for reasons of region or language. Canadians were told that Harper = Bush, but now Bush is gone.

Wilber · January 31, 2010

Bush was a re-elected "dork"....Canadians can't/won't make such a commitment so fractured be the voting (and non-voting)interests, if only for reasons of region or language. Canadians were told that Harper = Bush, but now Bush is gone.

Does Iggy = Obama?

Jerry J. Fortin · January 31, 2010

Bush was a re-elected "dork"....Canadians can't/won't make such a commitment so fractured be the voting (and non-voting)interests, if only for reasons of region or language. Canadians were told that Harper = Bush, but now Bush is gone.

You are right BC. We are just as dumb as you folks there is no doubt about it. Bush may be gone, but not forgotten. Obama is still beating on him, just like everyone else. Yeah we do that here as well. That doesn't make it either right or wrong, its just the way that things are. It is time for a paradigm shift, I actually expect it. Something WILL happen to change the games, most likely on a large scale. One thing often does lead to another.

bush_cheney2004 · January 31, 2010

.... Something WILL happen to change the games, most likely on a large scale. One thing often does lead to another.

Not for Canada...it is stuck in a lengthy lethargy and political paralysis, caused mostly by dilution. At least the Americans made a change, and stand poised to do so again...like clockwork. It is inconceivable to me as an American to respond to foreign comparison as much as Canadians did/do for Bush/Obama. Very strange.....to me.

nicky10013 · January 31, 2010

Not for Canada...it is stuck in a lengthy lethargy and political paralysis, caused mostly by dilution. At least the Americans made a change, and stand poised to do so again...like clockwork. It is inconceivable to me as an American to respond to foreign comparison as much as Canadians did/do for Bush/Obama. Very strange.....to me.

Because simply, most Americans mostly just don't care about the outside world. Everything American is #1 so why would anyone think to look abroad.

bush_cheney2004 · January 31, 2010

Because simply, most Americans mostly just don't care about the outside world. Everything American is #1 so why would anyone think to look abroad.

This is a cop out for domestic impotence....hell...many Americans came from the "outside world"...far more than Canadians.

Why isn't there a core identity that transcends whatever happens "south of the border", and stands on its own.

Smallc · January 31, 2010

Why isn't there a core identity that transcends whatever happens "south of the border", and stands on its own.

There is. You, along with some others, simply try to continue propagating this myth that there isn't. Any of the problems that face Canada also face American to varying degrees....along with a few others.

bush_cheney2004 · January 31, 2010

There is. You, along with some others, simply try to continue propagating this myth that there isn't. Any of the problems that face Canada also face American to varying degrees....along with a few others.

There you go again...back to whatever faces Americans too. Will the real Canada please stand up.

Smallc · January 31, 2010

I've talked about the real Canada many times. So have you. It's one of your favourite subjects it seems.

Edited January 31, 2010 by Smallc

bush_cheney2004 · January 31, 2010

I've talked about the real Canada many times. So have you. It's one of your favourite subjects it seems.

Many prior threads for sure, but as to this point of Canada's Future, it looks a lot like its past....struggling to establish a proper orbit around larger planets, and still defining identity as the UnCola.

Smallc · January 31, 2010

Yeah...just remember that next time you hear about Canadian or British health care in the middle of a US debate. :lol:

As for Canada, well, we'll be just fine, with or without your constant attention.

nicky10013 · January 31, 2010

This is a cop out for domestic impotence....hell...many Americans came from the "outside world"...far more than Canadians.

Why isn't there a core identity that transcends whatever happens "south of the border", and stands on its own.

Just because they're the children of immigrants doesn't mean they give a shit about anything that happened in the country they came from.

Look at illegal immigration as an issue. Something tells me that most of the people who support building fences around to keep people out came from poor immigrant families.