Topaz Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 A Try MP from Nova Scotia, thinks the unemployed are "no good bastards" because they won't do the work that migrant workers do.( Gee, don't hold back, tell us what the Tory party really feels about employed people) I don't know what unemployed people get in Nova Scotia, as far as EI or welfare but most of the time doing those jobs don't bring in enough to survive on. On the other hand, the C$ is worth more in countries like Mexico, Jamaica and other countries were they are imported from. As far as the MP apologizing, only if HE feels his may lose his job in the next election. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091124/national/tory_jobless_remark Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 A Try MP from Nova Scotia, thinks the unemployed are "no good bastards" because they won't do the work that migrant workers do.( Gee, don't hold back, tell us what the Tory party really feels about employed people) I don't know what unemployed people get in Nova Scotia, as far as EI or welfare but most of the time doing those jobs don't bring in enough to survive on. On the other hand, the C$ is worth more in countries like Mexico, Jamaica and other countries were they are imported from. As far as the MP apologizing, only if HE feels his may lose his job in the next election. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091124/national/tory_jobless_remark I will call that bullet number three.....starting to stack. Quote
g_bambino Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 most of the time doing those jobs don't bring in enough to survive on. Why, then, aren't the Canadian unemployed workng the poor-paying jobs while getting subsidies from EI or welfare? I have to admit, there is something wrong with people being paid more for doing nothing than those who are doing something. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 Welcome to the reality of the nanny state. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 A Try MP from Nova Scotia, thinks the unemployed are "no good bastards" because they won't do the work that migrant workers do.( Gee, don't hold back, tell us what the Tory party really feels about employed people) I don't know what unemployed people get in Nova Scotia, as far as EI or welfare but most of the time doing those jobs don't bring in enough to survive on. On the other hand, the C$ is worth more in countries like Mexico, Jamaica and other countries were they are imported from. As far as the MP apologizing, only if HE feels his may lose his job in the next election. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091124/national/tory_jobless_remark That MP from Nova Scotia probably goes out to have a nice lunch of steak and lobster..mabye he skips work after 1 pm and drinks a load of fine scotch and goes home to have a comfortable nap on fined Egyptian cotton sheets ---gets up and has to justify his comfortable existance.....so he sits and plots..and comes out with blurps like "no good bastards" Meanwhile back at the ranch he sits with a nice bank account full of cash from the public purse - a very very high paid welfare client. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) Clearly, he was referring to panhandlers and not the general down-on-your-luck unemployed......and I have to admit, there are a lot of able-bodied "squeegie kids" in Toronto who seem to be of questionable character......and a good number of panhandlers don't seem to be mentally afflicted either. Let's face it, we know that since the Charter of Rights opened the floodgates for those with mental illnesses to refuse institutional care or even monitored treatment, the streets have swallowed hundreds of these unfortunates. But there are hundreds more who panhandle their way from Toronto to Montreal to Vancouver to sustain a vagabond, drug-filled lifestyle. That's just the way it is.....and yes, some of them really are no good lazy bastards. Edited November 24, 2009 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
madmax Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 The guy insulted pretty much everyone. Shameful act and stupid to boot. This is a guy who will receive a golden pension plan and has a relatively easy job. All he has to do is not put his foot in his mouth not be a jerk and be there for the photo op in order to earn a paycheck. This guy is on the gravy train, makes decent bucks and all on the government tab. Fact is, the people who put into EI are the last people he should be calling LAZY BASTARDS. The Bastards are those in Government who had no problem stealing from the honest people who paid into it. Yes these Conservatives diverted $8 Billion from EI within 2 years for their own pet projects and hung those people on EI out to dry. Now when the going gets tough these same Conservatives, ones who think EI is lucrative, cough up 300 million dollars for 3 years to be diverted back into EI, during the most serious job losses ever seen in Canada including 120,000 jobs lost last January alone. Those people on EI know who " THE LAZY BASTARDS" are and they aren't on the street. They are in government shooting their mouths off and writing off packages of gum, booze, hotels and travel while they enjoy the priveledges of being on the government dole. But hey, he apologised. Quote
Shady Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 The problem is, that when you start raising EI, and extending EI, you're basically subsidizing people not to work. And when you subsidize something, you get more of it. So it's a tough balancing act. Plus, I bet this MP hates puppies and kittens too. Quote
punked Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 The problem is, that when you start raising EI, and extending EI, you're basically subsidizing people not to work. And when you subsidize something, you get more of it. So it's a tough balancing act. Plus, I bet this MP hates puppies and kittens too. Shady if you defend Migrant workers here you don't get to attack them in the US forums you know that right? Quote
Wild Bill Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 A Tory MP from Nova Scotia, thinks the unemployed are "no good bastards" because they won't do the work that migrant workers do.( Gee, don't hold back, tell us what the Tory party really feels about employed people) I've never been able to understand how when a Liberal like Hedy Fry says something outrageous like cross burnings in B.C. it's dismissed as just one Liberal saying something goofy, but when a Tory says something goofy it's attributed to the entire party, as in "Gee, don't hold back, tell us what the Tory party really feels about employed people". Talk about your proverbial double standard! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
punked Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 I've never been able to understand how when a Liberal like Hedy Fry says something outrageous like cross burnings in B.C. it's dismissed as just one Liberal saying something goofy, but when a Tory says something goofy it's attributed to the entire party, as in "Gee, don't hold back, tell us what the Tory party really feels about employed people". Talk about your proverbial double standard! No I agree both Liberal and Tory PMs are insensitive and silly. More often then not on the wrong sides of issues. Quote
Topaz Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Posted November 25, 2009 I've never been able to understand how when a Liberal like Hedy Fry says something outrageous like cross burnings in B.C. it's dismissed as just one Liberal saying something goofy, but when a Tory says something goofy it's attributed to the entire party, as in "Gee, don't hold back, tell us what the Tory party really feels about employed people". Talk about your proverbial double standard! This isn't the first time one of the Tories has said what they REALLY think and they will because all they have to do is APPEAR regretful, and say I'm sorry until the next time!It's a game they play. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Isn't this the same asshole who got busting handing out the big fake cheque with the Conservative party logo on it? This isn't the first time one of the Tories has said what they REALLY think and they will because all they have to do is APPEAR regretful, and say I'm sorry until the next time!It's a game they play. Quote
Jack Weber Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Ah...Compassionate conservativism...Gotta love it.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bryan Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 You really have to take Keddy's remarks out of context and fill in the blanks with things he DIDN'T say to come away with something offensive. He was referring to people who refuse to work, not anyone who finds themselves out of a job by no fault of their own. He even made specific reference to it being such a problem that farmers need to hire from out of country because the locals won't do the work. Sounds like that is a legitimate concern to me. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 You really have to take Keddy's remarks out of context and fill in the blanks with things he DIDN'T say to come away with something offensive. He was referring to people who refuse to work, not anyone who finds themselves out of a job by no fault of their own. He even made specific reference to it being such a problem that farmers need to hire from out of country because the locals won't do the work. Sounds like that is a legitimate concern to me. Maybe if the work paid worth a shit.... Quote
Keepitsimple Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Maybe if the work paid worth a shit.... No minimum wage jobs for these people.....they are entitled to welfare. And around and around it goes. Quote Back to Basics
M.Dancer Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 You really have to take Keddy's remarks out of context and fill in the blanks with things he DIDN'T say to come away with something offensive. He was referring to people who refuse to work, not anyone who finds themselves out of a job by no fault of their own. He even made specific reference to it being such a problem that farmers need to hire from out of country because the locals won't do the work. Sounds like that is a legitimate concern to me. On the CBC morning news the reporter was talking to the labour brokers and he said they basically agreed with the MP. They said that the riff raff in Halifax have it easy and are far too lazy to work on a farm. I agree his words could have been chosen better, but the sentiment is honest and the same hold true in Toronto. Many of the kids you see panhandling could easily find better than minimum wage jobs except jobs require you to be up and awake in the morning and tend to require you to go to bed at night. Jobs really interfere withthe lifestyle these kids want, which is basically just enough money to buy cheap drugs, booze and the ample time to screw and party. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Argus Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Maybe if the work paid worth a shit.... The work pays well enough for migrant workers to come here from thousands of miles away. But apparently, coddled by welfare and fake pogey, young, healthy people in canada would rather just sleepin and let us pay foreigners to do the work. Which is really not at all surprising. That is the society we've built. And I can't say that I, if given a choice between picking fruit all day or sitting around surfing the internet on welfare, wouldn't choose the welfare either. I'm not making a moral judgement on these people. I am, however, judging a system which lets them avoid work, indeed, even encourages them to avoid work. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Jerry J. Fortin Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 You folks are missing the point. Which is the inappropriate mouth on this fool. Whether or not the issue was true or false has not a single once of weight. The way he was making his point as in through his speech was in error. Quote
Cuzzin E Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Nothin' wrong with what he said, most people think the same thing. You want cash, go earn it or go take it. Just don't wait around for Cuzzin E to come fill your pockets. Quote
Molly Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) You know something? I call BS on the notion that Canadians won't do it. The fact is that those short-season employers aren't even looking locally. I've lived here for 10 years, surrounded Christmas tree farms, on the edge of the Holland Marsh, just down the road from the apple orchards- I read the ads in the local newspapers, check out the signs on the wall in the grocery store, and peek into the job bank website almost daily, and I've yet to see an ad for tree shearers or apple pickers. Potato graders- one or two ads a year; a couple of ads a year from a nearby organic produce farm; and one place that used to advertise for folks to make wreaths and garlands out of cedar.... and tiny handful of 'labourer' ads out of Bradford. They are outnumbered 50 to 1 by the folks on kijiji offering to do anything for a buck. Edited November 25, 2009 by Molly Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
M.Dancer Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 and I've yet to see an ad for tree shearers or apple pickers. Therefore if you can't see it, it doesn't exist.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Molly Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 The Christmas tree farm across the road also does major 'agritourism' stuff, and has a huge Christmas staff. Their entire staff is here from Stephenville area, NL. They didn't advertise locally. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Molly Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 If they exist, show me. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
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