Canada is a Catholic Country

[Goat Boy©]

Just let me know when they start blowing up subways and using their kids as human bombs then I'll start worrying.

What about bombing abortion clinic's?

[stignasty]

Events 1000 years ago have no direct impact on today.

Just let me know when they start blowing up subways and using their kids as human bombs then I'll start worrying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

[kuzadd]

Just let me know when they start blowing up subways and using their kids as human bombs then I'll start worrying.

scriblett: This whole argument about religion is simply a political tool with which to scare people, guess it works on some.

yes apparently it works very well on some!

Edited December 22, 2008 by kuzadd

[kuzadd]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

holy have you ever read up on that democratic republic of Congo, christian nut job

wanna talk about atrocities, they are up to their eye teeth in it!

and they is doin' it in the name of the lord!

allelujiah brothers and sisters!!!!

From The Times

November 1, 2008

Congo's maverick warlord who kills in the name of Christianity

"General Laurent Nkunda is a contradiction. An urbane jungle-dweller; an evangelical Christian warlord; a cerebral military strategist who unleashes awful brutality; a tribal protector and father of six who recruits children into his ranks; "

General Nkunda refused to report to the capital, Kinshasa, blaming the Government for failing to disarm the remaining Hutu militias in the east of the country. In June 2004 his troops besieged and then overran the once-beautiful town of Bukavu on the southern shore of Lake Kivu. Declaring that he had to protect the town's Tutsi population from ethnic attacks, his troops launched their own pogrom, raping women and children, murdering civilians and looting homes and shops.

from another article on General Nkunda:

Armed with a sense of righteousness fortified by visiting American evangelical Christian groups, Nkunda has in recent months been carrying out attacks against village after village.

Nkunda has forcefully recruited soldiers, including children, inside Rwanda, according to U.N. officials who repatriated at least 500 of them.

But don't worry Nkunda wears a button that says "Rebels for christ" doesn't that just give ya the warm fuzzies???

I know I just get all dream boaty over that kind of stuff........lol

Edited December 22, 2008 by kuzadd

[scribblet]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Wikki isn't exactly the best source, and yes there are some radical terrorists who call themselves Christian, but their activities are nothing in comparison to radical Islamist terrorism. The bombing of abortion Clinics is clearly not mainstream, certainly nowhere near the amount perpetrated in the name of Islam. Not to mention that any terrorism or acts of violence do not receive sympathy from even a small group of Christians, and none of them are seeking to mobilize a nation or all Christians.

McVeigh and Nichols for instance were never religiously motiviated, Nichols only found God while in jail, and McVeigh never showed interest in religion.

[kuzadd]

Wikki isn't exactly the best source, and yes there are some radical terrorists who call themselves Christian, but their activities are nothing in comparison to radical Islamist terrorism. The bombing of abortion Clinics is clearly not mainstream, certainly nowhere near the amount perpetrated in the name of Islam. Not to mention that any terrorism or acts of violence do not receive sympathy from even a small group of Christians, and none of them are seeking to mobilize a nation or all Christians.

McVeigh and Nichols for instance were never religiously motiviated, Nichols only found God while in jail, and McVeigh never showed interest in religion.

there are none so blind as those that will not see...............

Edited December 22, 2008 by kuzadd

[Michael Hardner]

Wikki isn't exactly the best source, and yes there are some radical terrorists who call themselves Christian, but their activities are nothing in comparison to radical Islamist terrorism. The bombing of abortion Clinics is clearly not mainstream, certainly nowhere near the amount perpetrated in the name of Islam. Not to mention that any terrorism or acts of violence do not receive sympathy from even a small group of Christians, and none of them are seeking to mobilize a nation or all Christians.

Still, Scriblett, you're on shaky ground if you try to base an assessment of Islam on news reports regarding terrorism.

The problem ISN'T numbers. The problem is cofactors.

[Goat Boy©]

Wikki isn't exactly the best source, and yes there are some radical terrorists who call themselves Christian, but their activities are nothing in comparison to radical Islamist terrorism. The bombing of abortion Clinics is clearly not mainstream, certainly nowhere near the amount perpetrated in the name of Islam. Not to mention that any terrorism or acts of violence do not receive sympathy from even a small group of Christians, and none of them are seeking to mobilize a nation or all Christians.

McVeigh and Nichols for instance were never religiously motiviated, Nichols only found God while in jail, and McVeigh never showed interest in religion.

Two things for you.

1 - How much islamic terrorism is a complete lack of education. If you were raised from day one believing in this stuff, and never learned any different, would you be any different? Thing like that over here with the Christians, we call them cults.

2 - Is a murderer any better than a serial killer? What makes one life worth more than one hundred? One death is too many. It's like arguing over what's worse, AID's or Cancer.

Pot meet kettle.

[eyeball]

I was raised and indoctrinated roman catholic....

and religion has no place in the politics of a nation.

The nuns used to tie my wife's left hand behind her back when she was a little girl in school so she couldn't use it. They'd also give her a little whack now and then just for good measure. They silly biatches even encouraged the other kids to mock and pick on her.

Is it merely a coincidence our dominant religion's preoccupation with leftwardness in the world is mirrored in the pains many Canadians take to disassociate themselves with leftwardness in politics? I think its entirely plausible that the mental spooks in so many preople's minds are indeed unable to differentiate between the several meanings and contexts that are loaded onto such a simple and otherwise innocuous word - left.

Have you heard the Bad Word brother?

Needless to say we don't go to church or Parliament very often.

Edited December 22, 2008 by eyeball

[scribblet]

Two things for you.

1 - How much islamic terrorism is a complete lack of education. If you were raised from day one believing in this stuff, and never learned any different, would you be any different? Thing like that over here with the Christians, we call them cults.

2 - Is a murderer any better than a serial killer? What makes one life worth more than one hundred? One death is too many. It's like arguing over what's worse, AID's or Cancer.

Pot meet kettle.

I'm sure a lot of it is lack of education, but not always, the 9/11 terrorists were well educated, so are many of AQ et al. Not to mention Muslims are blowing up more of their own than westerners.

There is no moral equivalence, between a few Christian terrorists and Radical Islamists, there is no equivalency in numbers.We now see the horrors of a civilization that values death, even that of it's own children, if they are dying by killing infidels.

The majority of Muslims are not terrorists, but the majority of terrorists are Muslim, in today's world.

I agree about religion having no place in politics, which is why you never hear Harper discuss it, the only people who do bring it up are people who have a Liberal agenda.

[Oleg Bach]

The very core and foundation of this nation was originally Christian - and that very large sect of Christianity, Catholizim - was always shunned to some degree because the centered aroung virgins and Paulism - and as we know Italians love their mummies. Say something about an Italian or Irish boys mummy and he will beat you to an inch of your life all in the name of the Blessed Virgin - any real Christain knows that it's impossible to have a baby with out sex - God is not in the smoke and mirrors buisness---religion usually is...ask the average Paulist Catholic what the emaculate conception is? They will say the sexless conception of Christ - but the definition of the term emaculate conception only referes to the conception of Mary ---who had an earthy father - most Christians don't understand the faith...having ranted that - I don't care what other religions are in Canada - Christians rule...without Christianity - THERE WOULD BE NO CANADA.

[whowhere]

The very core and foundation of this nation was originally Christian - and that very large sect of Christianity, Catholizim - was always shunned to some degree because the centered aroung virgins and Paulism - and as we know Italians love their mummies. Say something about an Italian or Irish boys mummy and he will beat you to an inch of your life all in the name of the Blessed Virgin - any real Christain knows that it's impossible to have a baby with out sex - God is not in the smoke and mirrors buisness---religion usually is...ask the average Paulist Catholic what the emaculate conception is? They will say the sexless conception of Christ - but the definition of the term emaculate conception only referes to the conception of Mary ---who had an earthy father - most Christians don't understand the faith...having ranted that - I don't care what other religions are in Canada - Christians rule...without Christianity - THERE WOULD BE NO CANADA.

Take another hit of the crackpipe

[Goat Boy©]

without Christianity - THERE WOULD BE NO CANADA.

LMAO!

[Oleg Bach]

Take another hit of the crackpipe

Hey my little programed liberal friend...what happened to the standard marginalizing line? " You didn't take your meds today" Here is the reality - it was the doctrines of Christ the great logistic and teacher that build the western world - It was not the Hindi god - nor Mohamid nor Budda...If these doctrines were superiour to Christianity - then the migration of others of other religions would not have taken place - and there would never have been this world wide trek to CANADA. Christianity welcomes all and for you to spit in the face of the kind and good spirited is shameful...

[ToadBrother]

Hey my little programed liberal friend...what happened to the standard marginalizing line? " You didn't take your meds today" Here is the reality - it was the doctrines of Christ the great logistic and teacher that build the western world - It was not the Hindi god - nor Mohamid nor Budda...If these doctrines were superiour to Christianity - then the migration of others of other religions would not have taken place - and there would never have been this world wide trek to CANADA.

Which is why most the technical innovations that lead to the West's dominance were actually invented elsewhere by non-Christian peoples.

And the trek to Canada (as to all the Americas) involved the large-scale destruction of Native Indian population and culture.

Christianity welcomes all and for you to spit in the face of the kind and good spirited is shameful...

Christianity also had a habit of chewing on itself on occasion, oh, and ask the Jews about that welcoming aspect of Christianity. They had nearly two thousand years of hospitality from their friendly neighborhood Christians.

Before you answer consider this. If you were a 12th century Jew, where would you rather have lived, London or Baghdad?

[Goat Boy©]

I'm sure a lot of it is lack of education, but not always, the 9/11 terrorists were well educated, so are many of AQ et al. Not to mention Muslims are blowing up more of their own than westerners.

I don't think that the Yemen suicide bombers or the USS Cole zociac crew were very well educated, but you're right...it's peas and carrots, both vegetables but very different.

There is no moral equivalence, between a few Christian terrorists and Radical Islamists, there is no equivalency in numbers.We now see the horrors of a civilization that values death, even that of it's own children, if they are dying by killing infidels.

Islam is without doubt much for violent in today's world, but historically this is not the case. Perhaps Islam will change. I would say there is no moral difference. If the bible were practiced as it is written the way the Qur'an is by Muslims, things would be no different. Lot's of fun stuff in the old testament, here's one of my personal favorites.

Now, therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known a man by lying with him. But all the women-children that hath not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

The majority of Muslims are not terrorists, but the majority of terrorists are Muslim, in today's world.

Again, agree. But does that make Islam any worse than Christianity? In my mind, no.

I agree about religion having no place in politics, which is why you never hear Harper discuss it, the only people who do bring it up are people who have a Liberal agenda.

It still get's brought up all the time. RCMP officers don't have to wear hat's anymore, Muslim's suing for discrimination in the work place, the gay marriage & abortion debate, Construction worker's & motorcyclists that don't need safety equipment anymore, but we're still paying for their health care.

Edited December 22, 2008 by Goat Boy©