Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 German-based Siemens is the one to watch for kickbacks in the medical field. It was legal for Germans to corrupt foreign officials up until recently. Speaking to a Jew - and in my mind both tribes are highly related - The Jews can actually go get the blessings of a rabbi who grants them the right NOT to honour contracts or have to live up to their word - that is a pretty picture of age old institutional established corruption - don't you think? Quote
benny Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Speaking to a Jew - and in my mind both tribes are highly related - The Jews can actually go get the blessings of a rabbi who grants them the right NOT to honour contracts or have to live up to their word - that is a pretty picture of age old institutional established corruption - don't you think? Nothing but corruption can be institutionalized. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Nothing but corruption can be institutionalized. Once monopoly is central - and the majority..then it is the norm...and it becomes an institutionion -- It's like looking at Hells Angles - and high ranking banksters...one is the institution - and ones are simply the third generation losers of an old feud. Quote
Smallc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Dobbin, there's only one private MRI in Manitoba. Where else were they supposed to contract the service to? Quote
benny Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Once monopoly is central The use of force is a kind of natural monopoly. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 The use of force is a kind of natural monopoly. That's why I put natural below the super - natural - we are supposed to be more than - picking up a rock and slamming the other guys scull - and taking his food. It maybe natural - but the supernatural natural man will always win out - because when it comes to voilence and cunning - he is a master - the rest are ameteurs--Difference being- when your intelligence level is high - you don't have to resort to force to survive...I guess some of the lessors do..but that is why we have law. Quote
benny Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 That's why I put natural below the super - natural - we are supposed to be more than - picking up a rock and slamming the other guys scull - and taking his food. It maybe natural - but the supernatural natural man will always win out - because when it comes to voilence and cunning - he is a master - the rest are ameteurs--Difference being- when your intelligence level is high - you don't have to resort to force to survive...I guess some of the lessors do..but that is why we have law. Laws don't fall from heaven. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Laws don't fall from heaven. Well they certainly do not emerge from hell! That would make them non-laws. The better part of the human being is heavenly - the most base parts can be hellish - your choice benny..heaven or hell. You do have the freedom of choice and you do have free will - It will be what you make it. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Dobbin, there's only one private MRI in Manitoba. Where else were they supposed to contract the service to? You put out tenders for the service. Yeesh. They do this for buying MRIs in the first place. They put out a tender and companies bid on it and we pick a company to buy the machine from. In the case of excess capacity for MRI, you put out a tender for a company to provide the service. Then they provide the MRI. This isn't rocket science. The reason the government acted in the first place is because a private MRI company set up to compete with them and offer two tier service. This is what you want again? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 You put out tenders for the service. Yeesh. They do this for buying MRIs in the first place. They put out a tender and companies bid on it and we pick a company to buy the machine from.In the case of excess capacity for MRI, you put out a tender for a company to provide the service. Then they provide the MRI. This isn't rocket science. The reason the government acted in the first place is because a private MRI company set up to compete with them and offer two tier service. This is what you want again? Soon as there was even a hint of competition the private guys should have been shut down. Medicine - healing and human benevolence towards other humans should never be governed by greed or an urge to control. Why do people not see this--it is not an act of kindness when one person assists another and insists on being payed for that act. Those that peddle addictive drugs are curtailed - we are all addicted to good health and life..what right has some creep got to hold us hostage...this is not health care it is slavery. If you jail a drug dealer then jail a group of persons or person that extorts others through threats of taking their very lives. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Soon as there was even a hint of competition the private guys should have been shut down. They tried that and lost in the Supreme Court. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 They tried that and lost in the Supreme Court. Dealt with them before - I understand exactly what is going on now. Let me give you something I leaned - If you take a look at the Advocacy Society - that gets together an appoints judges..some of which reach the height of the Surpreme Court... You will figure out one thing - the senior lawyers that do the appointing are also the biggest corprate buisness men in the nation...what they say goes - All judges are instructed from the begining on how to rule....so it only makes sense if you understand this that the SCC..are NOT some independent honourable bunch of judges - they are the henchmen that do the bidding of big buisness...and no way in hell with they defy their masters. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 MRIs are affordable and available.....this is just incompetence compounded by excuses. http://www.fraservalleymri.com/ Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
fellowtraveller Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 I don't understand the premise of the OP. Canada has always had two tier health care. If you have enough money, you can buy expesnive health care including organ transplants in many countries. Nothing has changed in that regard. Quote The government should do something.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 I don't understand the premise of the OP.Canada has always had two tier health care. If you have enough money, you can buy expesnive health care including organ transplants in many countries. Nothing has changed in that regard. Spot on....but it is politically incorrect to admit this. Everyone must wait in the same line...equally.....wink....wink. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Perhaps you should look at a map bc. The Fraser Valley is nowhere near Manitoba. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Perhaps you should look at a map bc. The Fraser Valley is nowhere near Manitoba. Neither is Buffalo, NY. So what's the problem? If BC can do it, why can't Manitoba figure it out? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Neither is Buffalo, NY. So what's the problem? If BC can do it, why can't Manitoba figure it out? Different types of stupidity in the provincial governments. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Neither is Buffalo, NY. So what's the problem? If BC can do it, why can't Manitoba figure it out? So Dick, where is Iraq--gotta bomb that place -them damned Syrians had better stop doing that shit" a semi - para phrase from the former administrators. BC is not perfect - but he knows a billion times more about Canada than the average American - he makes one mistake and the cowardly cut throat Canadian opportunists pile on..typical Canadian - Why do these Canadians not take what is good that America has to offer? Are they dumb - BC is a good man - and he is welcome here - and welcome to the odd human blunder. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Different types of stupidity in the provincial governments. Indeed...with a special strain of stupidity for Manitoba based on this soap opera. Sheeeeesh! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 So Dick, where is Iraq--gotta bomb that place -them damned Syrians had better stop doing that shit" a semi - para phrase from the former administrators. BC is not perfect - but he knows a billion times more about Canada than the average American - he makes one mistake and the cowardly cut throat Canadian opportunists pile on..typical Canadian - Why do these Canadians not take what is good that America has to offer? Are they dumb - BC is a good man - and he is welcome here - and welcome to the odd human blunder. One person said one thing what's the big deal? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 One person said one thing what's the big deal? No big deal.....smallc reacted defensively to the Fraser link, which is obviously in BC. That was the very point....why is Manitoba so backward on this? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 No big deal.....smallc reacted defensively to the Fraser link, which is obviously in BC. That was the very point....why is Manitoba so backward on this? Oleg was acting like everyone jumped on you which isn't true. As for why is manitoba so backward on this no clue i live in BC. were if i needed to I could easily get an MRI. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 No big deal.....smallc reacted defensively to the Fraser link, which is obviously in BC. That was the very point....why is Manitoba so backward on this? Manitoba is the non-provice - no one moves there - It's just a boring place you pass though on your way to Alberata and BC. The cream of the Canadian crop does not reside in Manitoba - who in their right mind wants to live in a town painted grey filled with drunks and native crack heads - and if you leave the "capital" - you get lost in the swamps and half drowned willow trees that refuse to grow more than five feet tall....You could not pay me to live in Manitoba. Quote
tango Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 b-c it just doesn't matter how you slice it: There just isn't much desire in Canada to move away from universal health care. We love it. We depend on it. And we know that those who want to and can afford to 'jump the queue' can go south and pay the price. So what? Most of us have no serious complaints about the system, and a lot of good experiences, if one can say that about any illness. So rant away, but know that you're not moving anyone. Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
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