bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 They were/are not acting upon it, except when forced by Americans (or earlier by England). So Canada's political leadership has no say in such matters.....they were mere puppets? Then why invent all the smarmy rhetoric and "judgements" about UN human rights, peacekeeping, "Responsibility to Protect", and NATO membership if it is predetermined by "England" and the "Americans? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shakeyhands Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 lol.... the ODS is incredible. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
GostHacked Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 Wait... am I in Canadian Politics or American politics?? I can't freakin tell anymore. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 Wait... am I in Canadian Politics or American politics?? I can't freakin tell anymore. Based on this forum, is there any difference? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 Based on this forum, is there any difference? Not anymore since many have seemed to purposefuly blur the lines. Thread and topic integrity has dropped down the sewer. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 Not anymore since many have seemed to purposefuly blur the lines. Thread and topic integrity has dropped down the sewer. "Thread integrity" is loose at best....those damn Americans just infest everything. Where is the CRTC when you need them? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cato Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 So Canada's political leadership has no say in such matters.....they were mere puppets? In some cases, yes. Example: the support of war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then why invent all the smarmy rhetoric and "judgements" about UN human rights, peacekeeping, "Responsibility to Protect", and NATO membership if it is predetermined by "England" and the "Americans? Most of that is eye-wash, pure hypocrisy or plain national interest. Canada is still an appendix of England, though the dependency on the USA (economic as well as national security) plays now a much greater role. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 "Thread integrity" is loose at best....those damn Americans just infest everything. Where is the CRTC when you need them? Not all Americans. Just a select few. Quote
lictor616 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 You mwan I fail to hate him for the colour of his skin.. As I made clear often enough, I do not care about the colour of another person's skin. Oh well, we're all used to our intellectual dishonesty by now. no i'm not citing you for "failing to hate him because of his skin color"... I'm pointing out the fact that his skin color is a big part of the reason why you admire him. Whatever happened to lefty liberals being RACIALLY BLIND AND UNBIASED.... you certainly aren't Canadien... That's racism (if we have any reasonable definition of what racism is) and you're a racist... If you didn't care about his color of skin, you wouldn't have (as you did) praised his presidency and claimed that it was a unique event in us presidential elections. Everyone who reads your comments can see this, its written in every slavishly admiring line of yours.... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Cato Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 If you didn't care about his color of skin, you wouldn't have (as you did) praised his presidency and claimed that it was a unique event in us presidential elections. I wonder if you are really denying the quite obvious and publically expressed feeling of many Americans, that electing a (semi)black person for President was a unique event. In case you are denying that, you should take a look at the list of past US Presidents and Vice Presidents with their pictures and then come back here and tell about the other black Presidents or Vice Presidents. However, if the event itself was unique, then why would someone be racist for simply mentioning and acknowledging the uniqueness of that event? Quote
CANADIEN Posted July 31, 2009 Report Posted July 31, 2009 no i'm not citing you for "failing to hate him because of his skin color"... I'm pointing out the fact that his skin color is a big part of the reason why you admire him. I don't particularly like him, but feel free to be intellectually dishonest as usual. That's racism (if we have any reasonable definition of what racism is) and you're a racist...Looking at yourself in the mirror, again?If you didn't care about his color of skin, you wouldn't have (as you did) praised his presidencyI didn't.and claimed that it was a unique event in us presidential elections. First Black man elected Presdient in the US. Never happened before. Pretty unique, no matter how good or bad people think it is. Quote
tango Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 (edited) Cop somehow projects he is attending "two black men with backpacks breaking into a house", though the caller did not say that at all. I don't care how Crowley tries to excuse himself. He exposed himself in that fabrication. Edited August 1, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
jbg Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 Most of that is eye-wash, pure hypocrisy or plain national interest. Canada is still an appendix of England, though the dependency on the USA (economic as well as national security) plays now a much greater role.An appendix of England? A dependency of the U.S.? Have you no pride in your country? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 If you're keeping score at home, you can now add a policeman to the group of firefighters, who have received a raw deal from Obama and his administration. Question. Which white, middle-class, blue-collar worker will be the next target of President Obama?Gates was no poor black suppressed person.Osama Obama has shown himself to be a friend of the elites, not the little man. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Shady Posted August 1, 2009 Author Report Posted August 1, 2009 Cop somehow projects he is attending "two black men with backpacks breaking into a house", though the caller did not say that at all. I don't care how Crowley tries to excuse himself. He exposed himself in that fabrication. No. It was the media that came up that fabrication. Not Crowley. Quote
tango Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 No. It was the media that came up that fabrication. Not Crowley. link? The only stirring action was learning that Sergeant Crowley appeared at the White House with his attorney and his union representative. ... Many didn't talk about how the 911 recording (which didn't mention race) turned Crowley's race-riddled police report into fiction. Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
Cato Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 An appendix of England? A dependency of the U.S.? Have you no pride in your country? We must have very different concepts about the essence of pride. I don't have pride in anything, which I did not contribute to be something worth of being proud of. Pride in one's country is the core of nationalism, which is nowadays the worse curse of humanity. For example your concept of "national pride" dictates you to deny facts, which may negatively affect the basis of this pride. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 We must have very different concepts about the essence of pride. I don't have pride in anything, which I did not contribute to be something worth of being proud of. Have you not "contributed"? If not, why not? Pride in one's country is the core of nationalism, which is nowadays the worse curse of humanity. For example your concept of "national pride" dictates you to deny facts, which may negatively affect the basis of this pride. Or it is just an excuse for doing nothing. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cato Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 Have you not "contributed"? If not, why not? My contribution was paying very much tax; nothing to be proud of. I would be proud if I had managed to avoid that, but I had not. Anyway, I did not and do not have any intentions to aim specifically at contributing to any national pride. Or it is just an excuse for doing nothing. I don't think you got the gist of it. I am an "anti-nationalist", I don't need any excuse not contribute to nationalism. Before you come up with that wide-spread nonsense: Communism was/is not anti-nationalist. They claimed to be internationalists, but a closer look reveals, that nationalism was always present. For example the Soviet Union was a union of equal people under the Russians. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 I don't think you got the gist of it. I am an "anti-nationalist", I don't need any excuse not contribute to nationalism. Oh no, that was clear from the start...no mystery there. Before you come up with that wide-spread nonsense: Communism was/is not anti-nationalist. They claimed to be internationalists, but a closer look reveals, that nationalism was always present. For example the Soviet Union was a union of equal people under the Russians. No kidding? So you have the correct model to follow, eschewing nationalism altogether? All while enjoying the effort of those who embrace nationalism. Very convenient! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cato Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 So you have the correct model to follow, eschewing nationalism altogether? Your moniker "bush..." is apt, at least from the intellectual aspect. All while enjoying the effort of those who embrace nationalism. Very convenient! Yes, I am enjoying all the consequences of nationalism, like wars, hate, exploitation. murder,... Quote
M.Dancer Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 While nationalism can be exploited and used nefarioulsy, the emotion and impetus I prefer is patriotism. The nationalist says "my country is the best in the world, the rest can FRO." The patriots says "What can I do to make my country better" Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Argus Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 While nationalism can be exploited and used nefarioulsy, the emotion and impetus I prefer is patriotism.The nationalist says "my country is the best in the world, the rest can FRO." The patriots says "What can I do to make my country better" Nice thought. But there is usually little real difference between a patriot and a nationalist. Most every American considers himself a flag-waving patriot. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jbg Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 Nice thought. But there is usually little real difference between a patriot and a nationalist. Most every American considers himself a flag-waving patriot. You nailed that. Is that not true of Canadians? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Smallc Posted August 1, 2009 Report Posted August 1, 2009 No, it isn't. Canadians, for the most part, aren't flag wavers. They're proud, they're happy, but they're usually quite quiet about it. Quote
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