Muslim Honor Killing in Kingston

[benny]

In that respect, yes. A Japanese pilot determined to plunge his aircraft into the American aircraft carrier through a wall of AAA is brave. A terrorist willing to kill women and children on an aircraft is both cowardly and afraid to stand toe to toe with said nation's military. Much easier to take the razor knife to the stewardesses. And you gotta give the Japanese some credit here. They had almost zero fear when confronting the enemy, even if the enemy was larger and better armed. Not too many Japanese POWs during WW2.

A coward remains anonymous.

[DogOnPorch]

A coward remains anonymous.

Name a kamikaze pilot.

[benny]

Name a kamikaze pilot.

I don't need idol.

[CANADIEN]

How is it cowardly? Going willingly to your death for the cause you [misguidedly] believe in is not "cowardly". The September 11th attack were many things: evil, despicable, monstrous, wrong in every way. But cowardly? I wouldn't say so.

It takes a coward to murder people, no matter how they do it.

Edited August 1, 2009 by CANADIEN

[jbg]

How is it cowardly? Going willingly to your death for the cause you [misguidedly] believe in is not "cowardly". The September 11th attack were many things: evil, despicable, monstrous, wrong in every way. But cowardly? I wouldn't say so.

What was "cowardly" was not the ones that went to their deaths; it was the organizers who were going to survive while 19 or 20 others were going to fry in order to butcher 1000's of others.

[CANADIEN]

What was "cowardly" was not the ones that went to their deaths; it was the organizers who were going to survive while 19 or 20 others were going to fry in order to butcher 1000's of others.

It was both. A murderer is, in essence a coward.

But then, what would I know, some here think I am a murderer appeaser just for thinking something like that.

[ba1614]

In that respect, yes. A Japanese pilot determined to plunge his aircraft into the American aircraft carrier through a wall of AAA is brave. A terrorist willing to kill women and children on an aircraft is both cowardly and afraid to stand toe to toe with said nation's military. Much easier to take the razor knife to the stewardesses. And you gotta give the Japanese some credit here. They had almost zero fear when confronting the enemy, even if the enemy was larger and better armed. Not too many Japanese POWs during WW2.

Good post DOP

I give the Japs a lot of credit and props for their bravery! Even when they hit the US they had the cajones to hit a military base.

Terrorism that targets defenseless men, women, and children is as cowardly as it gets.

EDIT: These "Honor killings" have no place in Canadian society and they need to screen out this type of belief for people coming to OUR country.

Edited August 1, 2009 by ba1614

[benny]

EDIT: These "Honor killings" have no place in Canadian society and they need to screen out this type of belief for people coming to OUR country.

Self-defeating "us vs them" statement.

[Remiel]

A terrorist willing to kill women and children on an aircraft is both cowardly and afraid to stand toe to toe with said nation's military.

I would be interested to hear your views on the use of remote controlled vehicles with hellfire missile action.

I am sort of in agreement with Bonam on this one. I would not call them cowards in the full sense of the therm, but I would hardly call them courageous either. More like foolhardy, and the rest of the stuff he called them.

As for Argus point and Steyn's point on the afterlife... Even if virgins were a motivating factor, which I highly doubt, it is rare to find anyone with such certaintly of their eternal reward that they go right outside and jump into the line of fire to do something really worthwhile (to them).

Edited August 1, 2009 by Remiel

[benny]

I would be interested to hear your views on the use of remote controlled vehicles with hellfire missile action.

I am sort of in agreement with Bonam on this one. I would not call them cowards in the full sense of the therm, but I would hardly call them courageous either. More like foolhardy, and the rest of the stuff he called them.

As for Argus point and Steyn's point on the afterlife... Even if virgins were a motivating factor, which I highly doubt, it is rare to find anyone with such certaintly of their eternal reward that they go right outside and jump into the line of fire to do something really worthwhile (to them).

"Coward" can only be part of a futile war of words here.

[DogOnPorch]

It takes a coward to murder people, no matter how they do it.

Bullshit. Ask Salvatore Lucania if it took courage or cowardice to take out the old bosses. Or Count von Stauffenberg if he was being cowardly when he attempted to assassinate Hitler. Cowardice in murder depends on WHO one murders and in what manner. Murdering defenceless women in your own family certainly rates high on the cowardly scale.

[benny]

Murdering defenceless women in your own family certainly rates high on the cowardly scale.

Repeating "coward" hoping hate will grow out of this forum and towards yet another genocide.

[DogOnPorch]

Repeating "coward" hoping hate will grow out of this forum and towards yet another genocide.

If that's what you're doing, you should stop.

[benny]

If that's what you're doing, you should stop.

And you!?

[JB Globe]

Who was it again that refused Jews admission into Canada and turned the boat around, the left?

So, rather than respond to the numerous criticisms of your arguments thus far in this thread, you've decided to post something completely off-topic.

Instead of defending your claims, you've decided to try and pull a character assassination on people who are calling you out. Specifically, claiming that those who are opposed to you are "lefties," making the false claim that it was only "lefties" that fought against Jewish immigration to Canada in the 19th century, (it was Liberal & Conservative politicians), and somehow using this to smear the current reputation of today's "lefties"

Which of course, is about as smart as saying: "John A. MacDonald was a xenophobe, therefor all Conservatives are xenophobes"

But I digress - rather than respond to claims of blatantly false statements you've made, enormous holes in your argument, etc - you're attempting to throw a bunch of s*** at the wall and hoping something sticks.

You're also completely avoiding answering the question of "Okay Moxie-kiddo, we get it, you think Muslims are evil, so what's your solution?" and I believe you're avoiding this because you wouldn't be able to come up with a solution that wouldn't out you as an extreme White Nationalist. It would make you admit your racism to us and perhaps to yourself too.

And that's why you're not going to talk about solutions.

[CANADIEN]

So, rather than respond to the numerous criticisms of your arguments thus far in this thread, you've decided to post something completely off-topic.

Instead of defending your claims, you've decided to try and pull a character assassination on people who are calling you out. Specifically, claiming that those who are opposed to you are "lefties," making the false claim that it was only "lefties" that fought against Jewish immigration to Canada in the 19th century, (it was Liberal & Conservative politicians), and somehow using this to smear the current reputation of today's "lefties"

Which of course, is about as smart as saying: "John A. MacDonald was a xenophobe, therefor all Conservatives are xenophobes"

But I digress - rather than respond to claims of blatantly false statements you've made, enormous holes in your argument, etc - you're attempting to throw a bunch of s*** at the wall and hoping something sticks.

You're also completely avoiding answering the question of "Okay Moxie-kiddo, we get it, you think Muslims are evil, so what's your solution?" and I believe you're avoiding this because you wouldn't be able to come up with a solution that wouldn't out you as an extreme White Nationalist. It would make you admit your racism to us and perhaps to yourself too.

And that's why you're not going to talk about solutions.

I think also it is a bit of a stretch of the imagination to think of the Liberal Party of the time as leftist.

[CANADIEN]

I'm racking my brains trying to find any historical reference that the Jews planned supremacist conferences, no can't find anything. Same with the Christians

never heard of White Christian Supremacist Conferences?

[benny]

never heard of White Christian Supremacist Conferences?

I would not like to see the reactions of a white supremacist father meeting for the first time his daughter's new Muslim boyfriend.

[jbg]

I would not like to see the reactions of a white supremacist father meeting for the first time his daughter's new Muslim boyfriend.

Give them both either scimitars and/or guns. They deserve each other.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

I think the topic should be changed to lack of honour caused killings.

[benny]

Give them both either scimitars and/or guns. They deserve each other.

Radical righteous closure.

[monkeyman]

It's quite simple, if the father and brother killed some women they deserve to go in jail for a LONG LONG LONG TIME.

It's not because they did it because of this or that that they should have more or less time in jail.

[jbg]

It's quite simple, if the father and brother killed some women they deserve to go in jail for a LONG LONG LONG TIME.

It's not because they did it because of this or that that they should have more or less time in jail.

Even if they're demonstrating their commitment to their religion by killing someone?

[benny]

Even if they're demonstrating their commitment to their religion by killing someone?

Their demonstration of their commitment to their religion would not be complete without jail time.

[jacee]

Guilty of 1st degree murder, 4 counts each, father, mother and son.

Justice is done. There is no "honour" here.

Four women and girls are still dead.

May they now have some peace.

Edited January 29, 2012 by jacee