Canada's immigration policy.

Leafless · May 25, 2009

You're not clueless to the point of not knowing that French-speaking Quebecers do not share the same culture as Acadians, of the French-speaking Metis in the West, ttto name two examples, are you?
Actually, why am I even asking? I already know the answer is yes.

And I will say it again.

I don't give a damn what the different French cultures are.

All I know is that I am part of the Canadian culture which is still the MAJORITY WHITE, ENGLISH SPEAKING CULTURE.

CANADIEN · May 25, 2009

When did a Canadian government ever try to kill the French Canadian culture?

Ever heard of the Durham Report? Regulation 17? the Manitoba school question?

I guess you forgot that the French language is a minority language in Canada and English is the majority language in Canada.

Nope. Does not change the fact that French is a Canadian language and that English and French have equal status, as it should be. As it will be long after future historians study tis Wen site and start wondering if psotings like yours were just a rare occurance or a sign of a large complete ignorance of simple logic.

Stop pretending that the French Canadian culture is so vibrant and self supporting.

I don't pretend. I know it is vibrant,

When will you stop pretending this is about culture, when it is about the rights of Canadians? Oh i forgot, you don't pretend, you're actually that clueless.

CANADIEN · May 25, 2009

And I will say it again.
I don't give a damn what the different French cultures are.

Except when you claim they're only one spealing culture in Canada. But don't worry, we're all used to see you contradict your own non-sense.

All I know is that I am part of the Canadian culture

Wrong. Yours is ONE Canadian culture.

Smallc · May 25, 2009

Comparisons to the United States will always be your favorite, but to answer your question, I offer up this:

:rolleyes: Yes, we all read the news here. Run along now.

Edited May 25, 2009 by Smallc

g_bambino · May 25, 2009

All I know is that I am part of the Canadian culture which is still the MAJORITY WHITE, ENGLISH SPEAKING CULTURE.

Yes, that probably is all you know. I was going to ask what these latest anti-Francophone-Canadian rants of yours have to do with immigration policies, but, well... see my first sentence.

CANADIEN · May 25, 2009

Yes, that probably is all you know. I was going to ask what these latest anti-Francophone-Canadian rants of yours have to do with immigration policies, but, well... see my first sentence.

It's all [art of a plot to destroy the English language and cultures.

Machjo · May 25, 2009

Leafless:

1. As for CIDA's involvement in promoting the English language, no, I did not find any information on the CIDA website (and believe me I looked). But when I was in China, I'd come across children's textbooks for English-learning, the development of which was funded by CIDA via Lingomedia. I know this because in the frotn cover, a whole paragraph is devoted to thanking CIDA for its work.

2. I know French is funded abroad too, and I don't agree with it. It just seems though that we only har English-speakers complaingin about funding for French, never for English. Cut them both I say.

As for international development, when we consider that, according to research done by econimists and linguists such as Robert Phillipson and Francois Grin show that English-language hegemony, though it may benefit those who learn English successfully, is actually an overall drain on the economic resources of developing countries, then how could CIDA defend such an action? Does it not do its homework before embarking in such projects, or is there some ulterior motive?

Machjo · May 25, 2009

http://www.lingomedia.com/s/China.asp

And I think I just found my answer. Investment in English-learning resources is profitable. But, wait a minute, I thought CIDA was there to help the other country develop, not Canada make more money off of them.

g_bambino · May 25, 2009

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g_bambino · May 25, 2009

It's all [art of a plot to destroy the English language and cultures.

You mean that, in Leafless Land, Francophone-Canadians are infiltrating the Ministry of Immigration in order to dilute with inept and culturally backwards immigrants all areas with majority Anglophone-Canadian populations as a subversive way to undermine Anglo-Euro-Caucasian "culture" and thereby reverse the Treaty of Paris? Ahhh... How enlightening.

CANADIEN · May 25, 2009

You mean that, in Leafless Land, Francophone-Canadians are infiltrating the Ministry of Immigration in order to dilute with inept and culturally backwards immigrants all areas with majority Anglophone-Canadian populations as a subversive way to undermine Anglo-Euro-Caucasian "culture" and thereby reverse the Treaty of Paris? Ahhh... How enlightening.

Nah, not the Department of Immigration... It's the Charter, the Charter I tell you.

benny · May 25, 2009

If immigration candidates can't speak either English or French, then let's not let them in, simple as that.

If you want to get something from someone, show your soft side; likewise, if Canadians want basic knowledge of their national languages from foreigners, they have to show some goodwill. Literacy programs may be conceived as such a gesture of goodwill.

Edited May 25, 2009 by benny

Machjo · May 25, 2009

If you want to get something from someone, show your soft side; likewise, if Canadians want basic knowledge of their national languages from foreigners, they have to show some goodwill. Literacy programs may be conceived as such a gesture of goodwill.

What I said is not harsh in the least. Of course once they enter Canadian territory, we should accept them as part of us; that goes without saying and part of being a good host. What I'm saying is that we should not let them into Canada unless they know English or French well. This also benefits their countries too as it reduces the brain drain from cuntries whose intellectual resources we are exploiting. If we accept only those who know English or French, then we are not taking away all of their intellectuals. If, however, we engage in the development of English and French skills among foreing populations so as to make them more integrateable into Canadian society, then we're in fact promoting the brain drain abroad in developing countries that are alrady struggling to develop.

Machjo · May 25, 2009

If you want to get something from someone, show your soft side; likewise, if Canadians want basic knowledge of their national languages from foreigners, they have to show some goodwill. Literacy programs may be conceived as such a gesture of goodwill.

Also, there are different ways of showing goodwill. For instance, in exchange for higher immigration standards, we could eliminate immigration quotas, thus having no numerical limit as to how many could enter Canada, that being replaced by competence-standards.

I would think that scrapping quotas and having objectively measurable competance and other standards clearly defined for all to see would be a very nice goodwill gesture.

Argus · May 25, 2009

Also, there are different ways of showing goodwill. For instance, in exchange for higher immigration standards, we could eliminate immigration quotas, thus having no numerical limit as to how many could enter Canada, that being replaced by competence-standards.
I would think that scrapping quotas and having objectively measurable competance and other standards clearly defined for all to see would be a very nice goodwill gesture.

In what possible way, shape or form would such a "good will gesture" benefit us or our relationships with anyone?

benny · May 25, 2009

What I said is not harsh in the least. Of course once they enter Canadian territory, we should accept them as part of us; that goes without saying and part of being a good host. What I'm saying is that we should not let them into Canada unless they know English or French well. This also benefits their countries too as it reduces the brain drain from cuntries whose intellectual resources we are exploiting. If we accept only those who know English or French, then we are not taking away all of their intellectuals. If, however, we engage in the development of English and French skills among foreing populations so as to make them more integrateable into Canadian society, then we're in fact promoting the brain drain abroad in developing countries that are alrady struggling to develop.

What will happen, if we implement what you want, is foreigners learning all by themselves just enough English or French to pass your linguistic tests and soon after, once in Canada, they will make you pay dearly your lack of understanding of what is genuine human motivation and solidarity.

Leafless · May 25, 2009

Yes, that probably is all you know.

I know all I need to know living in Canada but unlike you I am not a queeny or grammar Nazi and seemingly a wannabe politician.

I was going to ask what these latest anti-Francophone-Canadian rants of yours have to do with immigration policies

Perhaps you would know if you bothered reading the thread.

The immigration cultural/unity problems we have to-day are rooted to the same radical, anti-English, traitorous, commie inspired Liberal leader who gave Canada policies specifically designed to destroy the political influence the White, English speaking culture had on Canada.

benny · May 25, 2009

The immigration cultural/unity problems we have to-day are rooted to the same radical, anti-English, traitorous, commie inspired Liberal leader who gave Canada policies specifically designed to destroy the political influence the White, English speaking culture had on Canada.

Paranoia can be cured by speaking to strangers.

Leafless · May 25, 2009

Paranoia can be cured by speaking to strangers.

It appears Trudeau's induced fatal socio-political-judical gangerene has been successful in destroying the country and handing it over to undeserving strangers.

Edited May 25, 2009 by Leafless

Jerry J. Fortin · May 25, 2009

It appears Trudeau's induced fatal socio-political-judical gangerene has been successful in destroying the country and handing it over to undeserving strangers.

The Conservative Party of Canada?

benny · May 25, 2009

It appears Trudeau's induced fatal socio-political-judical gangerene has been successful in destroying the country and handing it over to undeserving strangers.

Canada is not an island.

g_bambino · May 25, 2009

I know all I need to know...

That's more than evident, Leafless.

The immigration cultural/unity problems we have to-day are rooted to the same radical, anti-English, traitorous, commie inspired Liberal leader who gave Canada policies specifically designed to destroy the political influence the White, English speaking culture had on Canada.

I read the thread, and only once prior did you state the above. But, so what? It doesn't explain in the least what Franco-Canadian-cultural policies have to do with those for immigration, especially when one considers that your rants about immigration were directed at non-white people, and your frothings against Franco-Canadians were directed at at group that is mostly, well, white. Two tangential issues that you've failed, so far, to make any connection between.

CANADIEN · May 25, 2009

I know all I need to know living in Canada

Correction. You know what your limited brain can know. Difference.

Perhaps you would know if you bothered reading the thread.
The immigration cultural/unity problems we have to-day are rooted to the same radical, anti-English, traitorous, commie inspired Liberal leader who gave Canada policies specifically designed to destroy the political influence the White, English speaking culture had on Canada.

You mean, our immigration problems are rooted in something that exists only in your imagination?

CANADIEN · May 25, 2009

It appears Trudeau's induced fatal socio-political-judical gangerene has been successful in destroying the country and handing it over to undeserving strangers.

English translation please :lol: :lol: :lol: