U.S. captain freed in rescue operation

[KrustyKidd]

The fact that Hannity on his radio show last week was talking about how Obama had made the U.S. less secure. It was all over conservative talk radio and FOX News about how Obama let the ship be subject to attack and they mocked him for bringing in a FBI negotiation team in. The question was asked many times "Where are the marines?" And why the ship was not protected.

There podcasts of Hannity are illuminating.

And the podcsts of Colmes on Fox saying that Obama was a hero are also illuminating but, none are news reporting but rather opinion

[jdobbin]

It is a news channel that also has opinion shows such as Beck and all. Just as CNN has Larry King. As for being the station of the right, can you provide actual news comparisons that we can see side by side with say CNN news reporting?

Against CNN? I don't make any such claim.

I do know that FOX News has argued in court about the veracity of their news.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/rbgh/fox-news.cfm

After a five-week trial in 2000, a jury decided unanimously that Akre was fired solely because she threatened to blow the whistle to the FCC the broadcast of a false, distorted or slanted news report. The panel that found in Akre's favor awarded nothing to Wilson who represented himself at trial.

The Fox appeal was largely on an argument that it is not technically illegal for a broadcaster to deliberately distort the news on television.

[jdobbin]

And the podcsts of Colmes on Fox saying that Obama was a hero are also illuminating but, none are news reporting but rather opinion

Which is what FOX News is mostly about plus distorting actual news stories which they admitted in court in 2000.

[Oleg Bach]

And the podcsts of Colmes on Fox saying that Obama was a hero are also illuminating but, none are news reporting but rather opinion

Hero - ? Hah! Some advisor approaches the fledgling president and says that his buddies want to shoot some pirates and Obama looks up from his desk and says "jezz I guess that's okay" This makes him a hero - and now he is respected - what about Bush executing a hundreds of poor blacks locked up in Texas prisons..while he was governor....he was a hero too!

[KrustyKidd]

Which is what FOX News is mostly about plus distorting actual news stories which they admitted in court in 2000.

What they distorted

This latest decision stems from a case filed in 1998 by former Fox journalists Akre and Wilson who charged they were pressured to broadcast what they knew and documented to be lies about an artificial hormone injected into dairy cows, then fired when they refused and threatened to report the matter to the Federal Communications Commission.

Not even sure if this is a distortion for the left or the right as cow hormones don't seem like a politically charged subject. However, the CBS piece on 60 minutes where Dan Rather used fake evidence to railroad Bush certainly was a political distortion as wasCNN's falification of abortion polls.

So why the vilification of Fox when they are simply like the others?

[jdobbin]

So why the vilification of Fox when they are simply like the others?

I haven't promoted any news over the other. I personally think CNN has gone entertainment and CBS hurt its reputation badly with the Rather report.

I just affirm that FOX distorts the news and they've admitted it in court.

[KrustyKidd]

I haven't promoted any news over the other. I personally think CNN has gone entertainment and CBS hurt its reputation badly with the Rather report.

I just affirm that FOX distorts the news and they've admitted it in court.

Like every other news agency on the planet has distorted something at one time or another. Funny how they are all the same when it all comes down to it.

Jdobbin

I think FOX's point was that Obama deserves no credit for ordering the successful rescue but that he should be blamed if it went badly.

My comment was on what FOX has been saying which is that situation was Obama's fault to begin with and that he deserves no credit for ordering the rescue.

He just can't seem to get his head around the fact that FOX and conservative talk radio were saying just how impotent Obama was and that the escalation was a result of Obama letting the pirates have free reign along Somalia's coasts.

So you just say these things or, have you a link to the news where the above was reported? I mean, you are not saying that CNN distorted this so, please provide you proof that Fox has distorted the truth in their news reporting in the above cases and deserves comments such as the above.

Also, you forgot to provide proof to back this comment up as I asked a few posts aggo.

Jdobbin

Not really. As you say it is an entertainment channel. Even the news is slanted against the Democrats. It is the station of the right.

Edited April 15, 2009 by KrustyKidd

[jdobbin]

Like every other news agency on the planet has distorted something at one time or another.

My view is that FOX does it as a basic tenet of their existence.

So you just say these things or, have you a link to the news where the above was reported? I mean, you are not saying that CNN distorted this so, please provide you proof that Fox has distorted the truth in their news reporting in the above cases and deserves comments such as the above.

I have given those links already.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....st&p=410026

[KrustyKidd]

My view is that FOX does it as a basic tenet of their existence.

I have given those links already.

You did not. You gave links to talk shows, not news reports. As it stands, you base your opinions in this case on your mood ring.

[jdobbin]

You did not. You gave links to talk shows, not news reports. As it stands, you base your opinions in this case on your mood ring.

One of those links included clips of regular FOX News.

[jdobbin]

Also, you forgot to provide proof to back this comment up as I asked a few posts aggo.

Well, for one it is including Hannity's tea party coverage in its regular news.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/12...erican-hostage/

Breaking News - Check Out FOX News' Anti-Tax Tea Party Coverage

[KrustyKidd]

One of those links included clips of regular FOX News.

Sorry Jdobbin but I see nothing nefarious occurring there. Which particular segment makes your case?

[jdobbin]

Sorry Jdobbin but I see nothing nefarious occurring there. Which particular segment makes your case?

The ones where the reporter, not a columnist or talk show host, questions why Obama is doing nothing.

[KrustyKidd]

The ones where the reporter, not a columnist or talk show host, questions why Obama is doing nothing.

Even the Huffington Post seems to be a Fox Agent

WASHINGTON — True to form, President Barack Obama is striking a cautious, low-profile public stance as the piracy crisis plays out.

As the situation changes by the hour, Obama advisers say the new commander in chief is being kept abreast of the developments, including Capt. Richard Phillips' foiled escape attempt Friday. But the president has yet to say a word in public about the standoff, now three days old.

The approach is quintessential Obama, who as a candidate and now as president has tended to let tenuous dramas unfold without remark unless he absolutely must, lest his words or actions adversely influence a precarious situation.

"I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak," Obama said pointedly last month when a reporter questioned why it took him several days to express outrage over the big bonuses American International Group doled out while receiving federal bailout money.

In the current case, direct involvement by a president also could elevate the already high international stakes.

Asked by reporters about the piracy Thursday, Obama declined to respond. Same again on Friday.

Advisers say he's leaving the heavy lifting _ and, clearly, the commenting _ to high-level administration officials and his military commanders.

The AP seems on his case as well.

Since taking office in January, the president has proved willing in many cases to field off-the-cuff questions from reporters at the close of events at the White House, even on matters differing from his focus that day.

But not in this case.

When reporters asked the president directly about the incident on Thursday, he demurred. Instead, he stayed on his message of the day, saying: "Guys, we're talking about housing right now."

So, what the hell is so nefarious about wondering what he is doing and when is he gong to act if at all?

[jdobbin]

So, what the hell is so nefarious about wondering what he is doing and when is he gong to act if at all?

It is the editorializing while reporting the story. The clip has it right there.

[KrustyKidd]

It is the editorializing while reporting the story. The clip has it right there.

And in my examples as well, one of them being an undisputed Left Wing Sock Puppet. I could find a hundred others to add as well. Nothing is amiss save your imagination, all news agencies do the same and ask the same questions asa well as speculate and pontificate to sell air time.

[Shady]

Sorry Jdobbin but I see nothing nefarious occurring there. Which particular segment makes your case?

Good luck getting an answer. I'm still waiting for him to post anything to back up his claim that Hannity blamed Obama for specifically not providing an escort for the American ship. Instead, he posts Glen Beck, and Rush Limbaugh, and then comments on tea parties. Then he sites podcasts, but provides no links or dates of shows. Of course, the podcasts he's referring to are of Hannity's radio show, even though his original claim was of Hannity's television program. Then, after being caught in his web of lies, he tries to spin off the whole incident, by attempting to claim he was speaking of general criticizm of Obama by Fox News.

*sigh*

I'll ask again. Please, post something that specifically backs up your claim, that Hannity blamed Obama for not providing an escort for the American ship. It's a very simple and reasonable request. Now, I realize it's difficult to back up lies, which is probably why you're having such a difficult time doing so. Stop the spinning, and start the posting. Again, it's not about Glen Beck, or Rush Limbaugh, or Fox News, or even Sean Hannity in general. You made a very specific accusation, and I'm asking for a very specific reference to back up your claim. This is your last chance. The Jeopardy music has ended.

[M.Dancer]

Still no transcript yet?

[jdobbin]

Nothing is amiss save your imagination, all news agencies do the same and ask the same questions asa well as speculate and pontificate to sell air time.

However, do news organizations organize anti-government protests and then try to say they are only reporting the news? That is exactly what is happening with Fox and it is tea party rallies.

[jdobbin]

Then he sites podcasts, but provides no links or dates of shows. Of course, the podcasts he's referring to are of Hannity's radio show, even though his original claim was of Hannity's television program.

Where did I mention it was on his TV show? I said on Hannity last week and he has TV and radio broadcasts each day. I pointed out that his TV show this week tried to say Obama deserved no credit while his last Friday show on radio revolved around the stand-off and recapture of the ship captain. It was a four hour show that covered everything from his tea party rally to how Obama was to blame for an American ship being in jeopardy.

By all mean check out his podcast archive.

http://www.hannity.com//Article.asp?id=466805

Edited April 15, 2009 by jdobbin

[M.Dancer]

Still no transcript yet?

[Shakeyhands]

Still no transcript yet?

Oh... didn't realize you were over here looking for transcripts.. I was still over in the other thread waiting for proof of the Stronach bribe thingy... my bad.

[M.Dancer]

Oh... didn't realize you were over here looking for transcripts.. I was still over in the other thread waiting for proof of the Stronach bribe thingy... my bad.

Eh?

[Pliny]

It was on Hannity last week where he blamed Obama for the escalation in pirate attacks and for leaving the American ship without escort.

FOX wasn't the worst of the bunch. This is what Rush Limbaugh said:

http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/2009/04/09#0027

Fox provides a forum for the conservative viewpoint and also includes the left wing viewpoint. The shows are editorial in nature and not news. The opinions of Rush or Sean is presented in the mainstream media as news which is not debated. Fox does give the viewpoint of the left and it is debated. I am surprised no one has mentioned O'Reilly. The MM does not allow the right wing to comment on their programs. They may present the view, usually pejoratively, but it is rarely debated with right wing commentators. It is editorialized entirely from the left wing viewpoint.

The left at least gets a chance to voice their opinion on Fox or rebut the right wing viewpoint.

There is no question Hannity and Limbaugh stand on the side of conservatism. Their partisanship is evident. They don't like Obama's policies or direction.

[jdobbin]

Fox provides a forum for the conservative viewpoint and also includes the left wing viewpoint.

Don't think I denied FOX is from a conservative viewpoint in their shows. However, they are also that way in their news. They are promoting their anti-government tea party protests in their news as news despite the fact that they are the organizers.

As for the left wing viewpoint, it seems most people point to Colmes but he is a very weak example and has been expunged from Hannity's show because that it not what viewers of FOX want to see.

Talk radio is almost exclusively right of center, anti-Democrat. Hannity and Limbaugh's shows are three or four hours a day of consrvative talk.

I suppose in a multi-channel universe, the right can have their mediums like FOX and AM radio but I don't think they should pretend that is actually news.