Canadians divided over creation and evolution

GostHacked · May 14, 2009

Eeew...I watched the Exorcist last week.

That movie still creeps me right out. That poor girl actress was traumatized for life after that scene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics

Hermeneutics is the study of interpretation theory. Traditional hermeneutics - which includes Biblical hermeneutics - refers to the study of the interpretation of written texts, especially texts in the areas of literature, religion and law. Contemporary or modern hermeneutics encompasses not just issues involving the written text, but everything in the interpretative process. This includes verbal and nonverbal forms of communication as well as prior aspects that impact communication, such as presuppositions, preunderstandings, the meaning and philosophy of language, and semiotics.[1] Philosophical hermeneutics refers primarily to Hans-Georg Gadamer's theory of knowledge as developed in Truth and Method, and sometimes to Paul Ricoeur[2]. A hermeneutic (singular) refers to one particular method or strand of interpretation.

To sum it all up ... it is all made up.

benny · May 14, 2009

The purpose of language is to create a distance from a reality that is too strange for us.

GostHacked · May 14, 2009

The purpose of language is to create a distance from a reality that is too strange for us.

IN essence, making stuff up.... gotcha ... noted for future reference.

benny · May 14, 2009

IN essence, making stuff up.... gotcha ... noted for future reference.

Making noise to ward off that reality.

GostHacked · May 14, 2009

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520170,00.html taken from http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090513/sc_af..._20090513210508

British scientists said on Wednesday that they had figured out key steps in the process by which life on Earth may have emerged from a seething soup of simple chemicals, according to Agence France-Presse.

We have some progress!!!! But now all this is subjective to peer review and thorough testing. This is the hypothesis stage. Testing will either debunk this hypothesis, or it will develope into a workable theory. This is how science is done my friends.

benny · May 14, 2009

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520170,00.html taken from http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090513/sc_af..._20090513210508
We have some progress!!!! But now all this is subjective to peer review and thorough testing. This is the hypothesis stage. Testing will either debunk this hypothesis, or it will develope into a workable theory. This is how science is done my friends.

Testing means recreating.

GostHacked · May 14, 2009

Testing means recreating.

You really have no clue.

benny · May 14, 2009

You really have no clue.

Glue is what is needed.

GostHacked · May 14, 2009

Glue is what is needed.

Just don't sniff it.

betsy · May 14, 2009

Time out! Time out!

I thought Benny was put on the ignore-list....and Gosthack was waved bye-bye????

And I've waved au revoir to Cybercoma...after he told me he was "dumping" me! And here we are back on the bickering again.....like kids. :lol:

I must confess I overdid it with my jokes on poor Molly.....Hey Moll, listen up. I'm sorry.

GostHacked · May 14, 2009

Time out! Time out!
I thought Benny was put on the ignore-list....and Gosthack was waved bye-bye????

And I've waved au revoir to Cybercoma...after he told me he was "dumping" me! And here we are back on the bickering again.....like kids.

I must confess I overdid it with my jokes on poor Molly.....Hey Moll, listen up. I'm sorry.

Well, let's resume the debate then. So far it is Evolutionists-1, Creationists-0.

benny · May 14, 2009

Well, let's resume the debate then. So far it is Evolutionists-1, Creationists-0.

Evolutionists will never understand that to get the number zero, one needs to already have one number.

Edited May 14, 2009 by benny

M.Dancer · May 15, 2009

Evolutionists will never understand that to get the number zero, one needs to already have one number.

Ben's idiot savantness doesn't extend to arithmetic.

Here's a problem for you:

23 + nostalgia + 13/roast beef= X/y

DogOnPorch · May 15, 2009

Gosthacked old bean. You'll not dent the armor of faith of these warriors of the cloth. (donk donk...see?...hard.)

Good news, though. The Atlantis is now making upgrades and repairs to the Hubble which will extend its life 5-10 years. Which means more great pictures like this*...only better.

*NGC 604 located in Galaxy M33...part of our Local Group (NGC 604 located top right in M33). Hubble resolves over 200 'new' stars being born. 'New' being relative as the light took 3 million years to get here.

Apparently...none of these new stars in M33...or any other star for that matter...will have planets w/ life, as 'God' has reserved that only for this tiny dust speck in the outer arms of the Milky Way.

Go figure.

benny · May 15, 2009

Ben's idiot savantness doesn't extend to arithmetic.
Here's a problem for you:

23 + nostalgia + 13/roast beef= X/y

Divisions are the only arithmetic operation that can give a taste of infinity.

betsy · May 15, 2009

Well, let's resume the debate then. So far it is Evolutionists-1, Creationists-0.

You're cheatiiiiing.

Of course, you know that ploy only support my argument about evolutionists' love for extrapolating when it comes to presenting supposed "proofs" for facts. They seem to be quite adept with the skill of......distortions or manipulations. :lol:

Edited May 15, 2009 by betsy

GostHacked · May 15, 2009

You're cheatiiiiing.
Of course, you know that ploy only support my argument about evolutionists' love for extrapolating when it comes to presenting supposed "proofs" for facts. They seem to be quite adept with the skill of......distortions or manipulations.

No, the evolutionists will claim victory because of the evidence for evolution, not because of the huge holes in the ID theory. Science's intention was never to prove or disprove a god. That was never part of the test. It is explaining things through natural process, which is all around us. If this leads to a god answer, then that is the way it will be.

And I have seen many distortions and manipulations from IDers and creationists. I don't think there is any real honesty among creationists or IDers. See Kent Hovind for example .. and he is just ONE of many.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/05/15/bible.critic/index.html

Some pastors also say that Ehrman forces them to confront tough questions about the Bible in front of their congregations.
"His take on the scriptures is a gift to the church because of his ability to articulate questions and challenges," says Rev. Guy Williams, a blogger who also happens to be a Methodist minister in Houston, Texas. "It gives us an opportunity to wrestle with the [bible's] claims and questions."

ID and creationism are based on a god *ahem* creator. (They can't even keep this straight, was it god or some creator that might not have been god .... the brain, it hurts) Evolution is based on natural laws that we can see. People can beleive whatever they want, but their faith is tested obviously with the new information. If the information fits their view .. then it will be accepted.

Basicly it is what you have been taught that determines if you are a free thinker or a follower. I grew up without religion. I know nothing about it. But I can see how people think and react because of it. Don't be afraid to ask questions. If you don't ask them, you will never get an answer.

I have a question that has not been answered yet Betsy. .... if there is a God .. there must be a Devil, or Lucifer .. correct? Ying, yang, good, evil??

Oleg Bach · May 15, 2009

I am not a monkey - You are! As for the "devil" - Muslims and Christians and the rest forget - The almighty created the devil - Good and evil..there is no contest between a devil and God...that would be like a new born baby attempting to fight his full grown father... :lol: Almighty means just that - and the entity that is God has no begining and no end - we have an end..Man kind will never get past the human stubling block which is the understanding of time...to us it exists - To God it is nothing..so the debate between evolutionists and creationists will NEVER end - because we think in mere mortal human terms...terms of time.

benny · May 15, 2009

No, the evolutionists will claim victory because of the evidence for evolution, not because of the huge holes in the ID theory. Science's intention was never to prove or disprove a god. That was never part of the test. It is explaining things through natural process, which is all around us.

Try to explain ghost without gestalt.

scorpio · May 15, 2009

So...
...there were never any dinosaurs...or early hominids...or giant ferns for that matter.

...the trillions of other galaxies in the visible Universe are devoid of life...let alone other planets around stars in our own galaxy.

...science, while right about atomic bombs (they work) is incorrect about the age of the Earth.

...human kind (all shapes colours breeds etc) came from the incestious relationship of Eve and her sons? Help me out here.

...the Earth will end as per: 'The Revelation of St John' rather than when the Sun grows into a Red Giant some 5 billion years from now.

Nice to know religion has the answers.

Oh Besty, Dog posted a very insightful post. And I, like him, would like answers to these questions. Please respond.

Oleg Bach · May 15, 2009

People who do not want to believe in God are those that do not want to behave..they don't want rules..they want power and domination over their fellow human beings - and laws and belief in God - stop jerks from taking control of the planet and futher wrecking it by eventually genociding there percieved advesaries --- believers...just won't bow down and worship wanna be atheist kings...so it's the same old same old - the mortals battling it out with the immortals - the great part for believers is even if they lose they keep coming back - to fight this spirtitual war- while athests when they are gone - they are gone for good. :lol:

benny · May 15, 2009

Oh Besty, Dog posted a very insightful post. And I, like him, would like answers to these questions. Please respond.

All answers are in our hearths, the religious hearth, not the one of cardiologists.

betsy · May 15, 2009

I have a question that has not been answered yet Betsy. .... if there is a God .. there must be a Devil, or Lucifer .. correct? Ying, yang, good, evil??

You asked me that before and I answered it already.

betsy · May 15, 2009

Oh Besty, Dog posted a very insightful post. And I, like him, would like answers to these questions. Please respond.

:rolleyes:

Irrelevant.

Oleg Bach · May 15, 2009

All answers are in our hearths, the religious hearth, not the one of cardiologists.

Yes and there is a light that is different "brighter than the sun" _ I wonder what that could be...it sounds like something that is more than physical - more than mere energy and matter - more that nature - super nature....................supernatural ---when people hear the term supernatural - they imagine a myth a fantacy - super natural does not mean NOT natural or NOT real - it means the extreme real!