Oleg Bach Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 27 French soldier have been killed in Afghanistan. That second rate wanna be should attack the french - and maybe ban french fries..oh - that's been done - but who said the comedic was original - everyone wants to be famous but they don't want to do the work - and talent is diligence - at least Miller and Cobair have paid some dues..as far as being skilled and informed entertainers. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 That second rate wanna be should attack the french - and maybe ban french fries..oh - that's been done - but who said the comedic was original - everyone wants to be famous but they don't want to do the work - and talent is diligence - at least Miller and Cobair have paid some dues..as far as being skilled and informed entertainers. It worked....I'll bet Gutfeld was not exactly a household name in Canada (or the USA) before this. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 It worked....I'll bet Gutfeld was not exactly a household name in Canada (or the USA) before this. Just like Galloway - ban him and make him famous...It's crazy how the very media some control becomes their Frankenstein. I really don't know who Gutfeld is nor do I care - I listened to sound bites on the radio and noticed that modern female tone that some males have these days ---not men and not woman - but things...yep - this guy and his little buddies sound like girls..we have quite a few personalities in Canada that are hetro-fags...men with high tones and no principles - is there something in the water? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Five minutes alone with the PPCLI should straighten Mr Gutfeld out. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Oleg Bach Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Five minutes alone with the PPCLI should straighten Mr Gutfeld out. Nawh - 5 seconds would do the trick - and if you used the traditional Canadian sucker shot - a half second would bring him to his senses. Don't you just love it when these over paid losers spew off non-sense then go home to order up a call girl, snort coke and drink Jack..what do you expect from this class of person? Intelligence? Awareness? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Just like Galloway - ban him and make him famous...It's crazy how the very media some control becomes their Frankenstein. I really don't know who Gutfeld is nor do I care -... That's probably the most insulting thing of all....Gutfeld and his producers did this for throwaway laughs, trivializing Canada's role in Afghanistan and their reaction to the bit. Now they are just waiting for a ratings spike. Rinse and repeat.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Five minutes alone with the PPCLI should straighten Mr Gutfeld out. 5 minutes alone with the GG could straighten Liberace out. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) 5 minutes alone with the GG could straighten Liberace out. He does seem "manly"....in a sort of way... --------------------------------------- When the reviews are bad I tell my staff that they can join me as I cry all the way to the bank. ---Liberace Edited March 25, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 You dropped a zero.Well actually, France has 2780 troops in afghanistan. This was their projected engagement in Lebanon which never happened. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
tango Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Yep....that's enough ante for this poker game. Here is a good "score board" that Gutfeld missed:http://icasualties.org/OEF/DeathsByYear.aspx Well, I hope this works because it took some work! These are the casualty rates (from above) expressed in proportion to the populations of these countries http://www.prb.org/pdf08/08WPDS_Eng.pdf Deaths of soldiers per 5 million people SKorea.... Portugal.....Finland..... Hungary 0.2............1.0............1.0.............1.0 Sweden.... Italy......... Poland...... Czech....... Lithuania 1.2.............1.2..........1.2............1.5...........1.5 Germany.. Romania... France...... Latvia....... Australia 1.8.............2.2...........2.2...........2.2.............2.3 Spain....... Norway..... Netherlands.......US........Estonia 2.8.............3.2...............4.7..............11.2.......11.2 UK........Canada........Denmark 12.5.......17.7...............19.2 -edit- there! Now this is interesting data that you can actually draw some conclusions from. Of course the US has lost the most soldiers numerically, by a long shot, and proportionately they are still among the top 5 in losses. But with only 10 percent of the population of the US, Canada has lost proportionately more soldiers than the US. I think sometimes even our American friends forget the size of the population of the US compared to most of the rest of the world's countries. Edited March 26, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) ......I think sometimes even our American friends forget the size of the population of the US compared to most of the rest of the world's countries. ....no we don't.....nor how/why we got that way. Edited March 26, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
tango Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) ....no we don't.....nor how/why we got that way. Nor how the US throws its mighty weight around to create conflicts, enmeshes others, and then shits on their allies. It's your war, imo. Edited March 26, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 Nor how the US throws its mighty weight around to create conflicts, enmeshes others, and then shits on their allies. ...then why do they line up for the "shit"? It's your war, imo. It's your war...in the UN and NATO's opinion. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
tango Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) ...then why do they line up for the "shit"? We were pressured/goaded into it, because Bush and a lot of 'Americans' had a hissy fit when we refused to deploy to Iraq. And hey ... didja hear? We're getting out ... of combat. We're losing too many to IEDs and US troops. It's your war...in the UN and NATO's opinion. Oh that charade! It was in the other order. We can schmooze our way out of combat anytime. We're being replaced as we speak I believe. The US is now sending over way more troops than we have there, or ever could. Our RESERVES are depleted, exhausted ... the last round up scraped up only 43 more to send over, and our regular forces are probably walking zombies by now, with multiple deployments to Af. We just don't have any more to send, and ours are in double danger from exhaustion, and are taking heavier casualties per capita than yours. Try to keep a perspective, eh? Edited March 26, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 We were pressured/goaded into it, because Bush and a lot of 'Americans' had a hissy fit when we refused to deploy to Iraq. Pssst....you might want to check your memory....Afghanistan was 2002 for Canada....Iraq was invaded in 2003. And hey ... didja hear? We're getting out ... of combat. No you're not... We're losing too many to IRDs and US troops. You can't lose "US troops". Oh that charade! No bigger UN champion than Canada....just ask General Dallaire. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
tango Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 We're losing too many to IEDs and US troops. You can't lose "US troops". Clarification: We are losing soldiers to IEDs and we are losing soldiers to US 'friendly fire'. got it now? And ... I believe we did not assume a combat role in Afghanistan immediately. There is nothing unusual about our troops being there for reconstruction/peacekeeping, and no Canadians complain about that at all. It's the combat role that is unusual for us, disturbing, not our fight (some say), and not an honourable war. Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 We're losing too many to IEDs and US troops.You can't lose "US troops". Clarification: We are losing soldiers to IEDs and we are losing soldiers to US 'friendly fire'. got it now? I think so....you wanted to be clever...but dicked it up instead. Practice makes perfect...just look at me! And ... I believe we did not assume a combat role in Afghanistan immediately.There is nothing unusual about our troops being there for reconstruction/peacekeeping, and no Canadians complain about that at all. False.....there was a "combat role" immediately (JTF2) and some Canadians want everybody home NOW! It's the combat role that is unusual for us, disturbing, not our fight (some say), and not an honourable war. Not so unusual....and only disturbing to those who don't know their own nation's history. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
tango Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Ya well ... it's just how we feel, on the right and the left, I'd be inclined to think. I went looking for American invasions of Canada and got engrossed in this ... (perhaps others later ... ) A 1935 US Plan for Invasion of Canada The following is a full-text reproduction of the 1935 plan for a US invasion of Canada prepared at the US Army War College, G-2 intelligence division, and submitted on December 18, 1935. This is the most recent declassified invasion plan available from the US archival sources. Centered pagination is that of the original document. The spelling and punctuation of the original document are reproduced as in the original document, even when in error by present-day norms. This document was first identified by Richard Preston in his 1977 book, "The Defence of the Undefended Border: Planning for War in North America 1867-1939" (Montreal: McGill-Queen's University Press.) Preston's reference citation (p. 277) identified this to be archived at the US Military History Collection, Carlisle Barracks, Pa., coded AWC 2-1936-8, G2, no. 19A. It was located by the US National Archives and supplied on microfilm. The military planning context of this document is War Plan Red, which was approved in May 1930 by the Secretary of War and the Secretary of Navy. War Plan Red and supporting documents are available from the US National Archives on microfilm, in the Records of the Joint Board, 1903-1947, Roll 10, J.B. 325, Serial 435 through Serial 641. In War Plan Red, the US Army's theatre of operations is defined to be: "All CRIMSON territory" (p.80), and the US Army's mission, in bold type: ULTIMATELY, TO GAIN COMPLETE CONTROL OF CRIMSON (p. 84). CRIMSON is the colour code for Canada. In 1934, War Plan Red was amended to authorize the immediate first use of poison gas against Canadians and to use strategic bombing to destroy Halifax if it could not be captured. In February 1935, the War Department arranged a Congressional appropriation of $57 million dollars to build three border air bases for the purposes of pre-emptive surprise attacks on Canadian air fields. The base in the Great Lakes region was to be camouflaged as a civilian airport and was to "be capable of dominating the industrial heart of Canada, the Ontario Peninsula" from p. 61 of the February 11-13, 1935, hearings of the Committee on Military Affairs, House of Representatives, on Air Defense Bases (H.R. 6621 and H.R. 4130). This testimony was to have been secret but was published by mistake. See the New York Times, May 1, 1935, p. 1. In August 1935, the US held its largest peacetime military manoeuvres in history, with 36,000 troops converging at the Canadian border south of Ottawa, and another 15,000 held in reserve in Pennsylvania. The war game scenario was a US motorized invasion of Canada, with the defending forces initially repulsing the invading Blue forces, but eventually to lose "outnumbered and outgunned" when Blue reinforcements arrive. This according to the Army's pamphlet "Souvenir of of the First Army Maneuvers: The Greatest Peace Time Event in US History" (p.2). Now ... we know this is just 'war games' and we've already sold ourselves to the US without a war ... But the persistent omnipotent fantasies that Canadians want to be US 'Americans' ... (Those who want to ARE, and many are dual citizens.) The failure to comprehend and respect that there is a Canadian perspective that is totally independent of what the US does or is ... It has nothing to do with the US. It's just us. Canadians. Not 330m ... just 33m ... more in league with other countries of our size, and with many allies. We may not burn the whitehouse next time, but have you ever seen a condom full of paint fly out of a HUGE slingshot? Man, you can douse somebody's campfire 10 sites away! Across the Niagara river, maybe even! (beer later, of course) war? with guns? where? why? Link to terrorism ... are you nuts? Thank god for boring but sane old Canada! Ein Prosit!! Chimo!! Down the hatch!! SlurrrRRPP BurrrRRPP yawn zzz Edited March 26, 2009 by tango Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 The failure to comprehend and respect that there is a Canadian perspective that is totally independent of what the US does or is ... It has nothing to do with the US. It's just us. Canadians. Not 330m ... just 33m ... more in league with other countries of our size, and with many allies. Then why are those "independent" perspectives so often articulated with respect to the US and not so many other countries? We may not burn the whitehouse next time, Nope...never again....your empire has collapsed. God Save the Queen Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
tango Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 Then why are those "independent" perspectives so often articulated with respect to the US and not so many other countries? because you are our only neigbour! Nope...never again....your empire has collapsed. God Save the Queen We are still here. Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 because you are our only neigbour! What happened to Denmark (Greenland)...you know, the other neighbour. We are still here. Right...regardless of the Americans, so stop worrying about what they will or won't do. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
tango Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 ya ... tell that to your buddies at faux news, eh? and shove yer patronizing manner, eh? Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) ya ... tell that to your buddies at faux news, eh? and shove yer patronizing manner, eh? Why should I? It's a free country...just ask Heather Mallick, eh? Edited March 27, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 What happened to Denmark (Greenland)...you know, the other neighbour.Right...regardless of the Americans, so stop worrying about what they will or won't do. Don't forget Russia Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) Don't forget Russia ah yes...the best "neighbours" of all. Mister Rogers says, "Won't....you...be...my....neighbour?" Edited March 27, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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