Mr.Canada Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) 44 per cent of Canadian Muslims believe Canada should accommodate their traditional beliefs, while 81 per cent of the general population thinks immigrants should adopt mainstream Canadian beliefs. In particular, 53 per cent of Muslims think sharia law should be recognized as a legal basis for settling family disputes, while an overwhelming majority of the general population disagrees. Of those surveyed, 55 per cent of Muslim women and 59 per cent of Muslims aged 18 to 29 indicated their preference for sharia law. Remember, this survey was conducted one year after the Ontario sharia controversy. SourceSo as it turns out in this recent poll t hat most Canadians want immigrants to adapt to Canadian ways of life instead of us accommodating them to no end. I'm personally shocked by this but am happy about it. It shows just how out of touch the Canadian Federal, provincial and city government are to real Canadians. Yet they continue to push for us to accommodate them when 81% of don't think we should. The majority of Muslims in Canada want Sharia law 59% of young Muslims want it. This is problematic and this issue will rear its ugly head yet again. We must continue to resist against it as this constitutes 10 steps back for the womens rights movement here in Canada. We shall not allow the systemic rape of our women by some religion with backward beliefs which condones the stoning to death of our women for adultery or even being accused of it. We've done a great job here in Canada fighting for womens rights. Too hard to just hand them over in the name of Allah. We must not submit! The survey found that 45 per cent of Canadian Muslims possess a university degree (or higher), compared with 33 per cent of the general Canadian population. At the time, 94 per cent of those surveyed were proud of being Canadian, citing Canadian policies of democracy, multiculturalism, peace and humanitarianism as sources of their pride. When asked what they liked least, the majority replied: "weather and taxes." Only 6 per cent cited Canada's foreign policy. SourceAs we can see the Canadian Muslims are quite educated and proud Canadians. This proves that educated people who love Canada can support dangerous even deadly Sharia Law. Canadians need to understand how dangerous this is. Edited January 29, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_ Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) As we can see the Canadian Muslims are quite educated and proud Canadians. This proves that educated people who love Canada can support dangerous even deadly Sharia Law. Education isn't the cure it would seem as the socialists would have us believe. Canadians need to understand how dangerous this is and that we must educate everyone so they may join the resistance. Nope, education just can't be trusted. So we should educate people about how dangerous and evil education is. ~~~~~ Aww, now you've gone and edited it. I think you said it just fine the first time. Edited January 29, 2009 by Melanie_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Where are the feminists ? Why the silence? Does anyone really believe ,educated Canadian women would want male dominated households? We have seen snippets of what happens to rebellious Muslim women. Come on Ladies ,get out there and save your sisters. Your silence is deafening! Burn a bra or two for crying out loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Where are the feminists ? Why the silence? Does anyone really believe ,educated Canadian women would want male dominated households? We have seen snippets of what happens to rebellious Muslim women. Come on Ladies ,get out there and save your sisters. Your silence is deafening! Burn a bra or two for crying out loud! I agree wholeheartedly. If it was another group who felt this way, they'd be up in arms bu since it's their friends, the Muslims, it's ok. They are forbidden to criticize them by their leaders Jack Layton and Sid Ryan who seemingly love everything Muslim. Their masters have spoken therefore they'll remain silent. They'd allow women to be subjected to Sharia Law before disagreeing with their kind and gentle Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 We need the left to join us in renouncing this violence against women by tribunal. It's outrageous to think that the left can afford to remain so quiet. Are they saying that the Islamic Sharia Courts are welcome in Canada?! They must speak up and be counted. Where are these protectors of the people in the hour of their greatest need?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterDC Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 SourceSo as it turns out in this recent poll t hat most Canadians want immigrants to adapt to Canadian ways of life instead of us accommodating them to no end. I'm personally shocked by this but am happy about it. It shows just how out of touch the Canadian Federal, provincial and city government are to real Canadians. Yet they continue to push for us to accommodate them when 81% of don't think we should. The majority of Muslims in Canada want Sharia law 59% of young Muslims want it. This is problematic and this issue will rear its ugly head yet again. We must continue to resist against it as this constitutes 10 steps back for the womens rights movement here in Canada. We shall not allow the systemic rape of our women by some religion with backward beliefs which condones the stoning to death of our women for adultery or even being accused of it. We've done a great job here in Canada fighting for womens rights. Too hard to just hand them over in the name of Allah. We must not submit! Source As we can see the Canadian Muslims are quite educated and proud Canadians. This proves that educated people who love Canada can support dangerous even deadly Sharia Law. Canadians need to understand how dangerous this is. First of all, just because they want it, it doesn't mean that they will get it. I am sure many people from other religious groups (Christian, Jewish) would like to see the Canadian government make more laws respecting their beliefs... Secondly, again.. it ain't happening. While 95% of Muslim Canadians were proud to be Canadian (and I am happy for them), only 44-53% of them believe that Canadians should adopt Sharia law.. If it were that easy to get things done, we would've lost Quebec a long time ago.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 First of all, just because they want it, it doesn't mean that they will get it. I am sure many people from other religious groups (Christian, Jewish) would like to see the Canadian government make more laws respecting their beliefs... Secondly, again.. it ain't happening. While 95% of Muslim Canadians were proud to be Canadian (and I am happy for them), only 44-53% of them believe that Canadians should adopt Sharia law.. If it were that easy to get things done, we would've lost Quebec a long time ago.. Yet you fail to disagree with them. Yet another socialist who is codling the immigrant vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterDC Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yet you fail to disagree with them. Yet another socialist who is codling the immigrant vote. Please show me where I agreed with these laws... Codling the immigrant vote? Maybe.. Will you vote for me next election? I am hoping to topple the Conservative government.. Apparently, I am part of the Socialist Party of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Please show me where I agreed with these laws... Codling the immigrant vote? Maybe.. Will you vote for me next election? I am hoping to topple the Conservative government.. Apparently, I am part of the Socialist Party of Canada. By not disagreeing you effectively must agree with their position. The first words from your mouth on the subject was to tell me not worry, they won't get it anyways. Not disagreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 It's outrageous to think that the left can afford to remain so quiet. They must speak up and be counted. Where are these protectors of the people in the hour of their greatest need?! I called them. They are already busy fighting the Catholic Church to allow women as Preists and to allow for birth control. They told me your concerns are on their agenda but they also laughed at the hypocrisy of your position. They asked me if you were Catholic , I told them could he be any other? We all laughed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterDC Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 By not disagreeing you effectively must agree with their position.The first words from your mouth on the subject was to tell me not worry, they won't get it anyways. Not disagreement. Yes, I did tell you not to worry, I never said that I agreed with them. With so many people posting their predictable remarks, it does not seem very practical for me to spew the same kind of message. As a strong supporter of secularism, could you honestly say that I agree with what 44% of Muslim devotees desire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Jack Layton speaks for the people yet only 1 in 12 of the people voted for him...lol. Layton is asleep at the wheel. NDP supporters refuse to rise up and condemn Sharia Law. That is awful. Do they support Sharia Law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterDC Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Jack Layton speaks for the people yet only 1 in 12 of the people voted for him...lol. Layton is asleep at the wheel. NDP supporters refuse to rise up and condemn Sharia Law. That is awful. Do they support Sharia Law? No, he probably doesn't. He also probably doesn't support legal incest and polygamy... However, I am sure that some people would like to see those things legalized.. Right now, we are in the middle of a war and an economic downturn - do you think that they would really bring up these insignificant "issues" every Q&A period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Meh, give Muslims their laws. However those that prevent freedom from coersion should have the law of the land to falll back on. Yes, allow them to have polygamy, but if any are force beyond their will, they should be able to have easy access to help outside their community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 There is no place in Canada for religion-based tribunals arbitrating or deciding on matter of civil law. No matter the religion. More than 45% of Muslims in Canada don't want Sharia law in this country. Great. That number will grow up as more Muslims realize there is nothing incompatible between being a Muslim and being Canadian. I would be curious to see a break down of those numbers by lenght of stay in this country: I would be curious to see if long-time resident are more opposed to the sharia. It would also be interesting to see if those who support sharia support the whole of it, or parts. Sharia touches a lot more than women's rights (or lack thereof), and includes economic issues, property rights, banking, contractual disputes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Of course they want it, they're not here to be faithful, loyal, and obedient Canadian citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drea Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 (edited) Of course they want it, they're not here to be faithful, loyal, and obedient Canadian citizen. I'm not here to be a faithful, loyal, and obedient citizen either! I'm here to enjoy my life; work, raise a family and have some fun. I love this country, yes... but it is not my "reason for being", it's simply where I live. Because I want to live in a nice, peaceful place I like that my country has (for the most part) fair laws that benefit all citizens. We live in a beautiful country with a great government (no matter who is "in"). We are all basically ok aside from the latest economic downturn. Few of us live in poverty with no real hope for the future. Immigrants leave their home, not because they want to "rebuild it" somewhere else, but because they want to make a better lives for themselves. Perhaps we need to make it very very clear that no religious laws will be permitted nor recognized as valid. Religious references need to be completely removed from all government institutions so that one religion cannot say "but that other religion is represented, we want our gobbledeegook there too!" This would remove the threat from laws being enacted that do not benefit all citizens. Edited January 30, 2009 by Drea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 For balance, we should see a comparison against what immigrants from other religious groups think about allowing family dispute resolution using clerics from their religions. And I don't see the basis for any concern here, as this just seems like more stirring of the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Mark Steyn once wrote about an incident that occurred during the British rule of India. It seems a British governor of a community was shocked to hear that Indian widows were often burned alive on their husband's funeral pyre! The local Indian leader of the community explained to the governor that this custom was known as "suttee" and was a long standing part of their culture. The governor thought for a moment and then told the man "Certainly, we respect Indian culture. Still, we have a culture of our own and in our culture this is murder! So this is what we'll do. We'll erect a gallows beside the funeral pyres. After you follow your culture we will then follow ours." There were no more 'suttee' funerals in that community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I called them. They are already busy fighting the Catholic Church to allow women as Preists and to allow for birth control.They told me your concerns are on their agenda but they also laughed at the hypocrisy of your position. They asked me if you were Catholic , I told them could he be any other? We all laughed. And yet, even in the Catholic Church, women play many important roles. They play NO role within Islam. Not only can they not show their faces, but if they want to go to a mosque they have to go to a seperate area which is walled off so the men don't have to look at them and notice their existance. So it's you who is demonstrating the hypocrisy here. You'd have no difficulty attacking the Catholics for their policies but recoil in horror at the thought of criticising "brown people" for their worse policies. Instead, you defend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 For balance, we should see a comparison against what immigrants from other religious groups think about allowing family dispute resolution using clerics from their religions.And I don't see the basis for any concern here, as this just seems like more stirring of the pot. The only basis for concerns are that as the Muslim population rises, politicians, being the whores they are, will be more likely to kowtow to their wishes, and that people who believe in Sharia law - esp young people - are most likely not buying into the secular Canada concept at all, and NOT adapting and assimilating as the lefties keep telling us they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drea Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 so I guess, for you religious freaks... that removing all religious reference would be deemed "impossible"? In my opinion it is the wisest option. Yet it is dismissed. You people are simply crazy. Mass psychosis I guess. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I do agree with Mr Canada on one thing: this shouldn't be overlooked. We shouldn't be blinded by faith in multiculturalism, or faith in basic human goodness or by the idea that all cultures are basically equal. All cultures are no equal. Some cultures have practices that are abhorrent (as Wild Bill's story illustrates.) If cannibals from wild jungles moved to Canada and wished to continue their culinary practices, we'd say no. That's a line we'd draw. Let's not be shy about drawing other lines either. We should not tolerate the intolerable. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterDC Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I do agree with Mr Canada on one thing: this shouldn't be overlooked. We shouldn't be blinded by faith in multiculturalism, or faith in basic human goodness or by the idea that all cultures are basically equal.All cultures are no equal. Some cultures have practices that are abhorrent (as Wild Bill's story illustrates.) If cannibals from wild jungles moved to Canada and wished to continue their culinary practices, we'd say no. That's a line we'd draw. Let's not be shy about drawing other lines either. We should not tolerate the intolerable. -k We do have a line , it's called the constitution and law. Everybody has guaranteed rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 We do have a line , it's called the constitution and law. Everybody has guaranteed rights Just not "equal" rights. If I rape a women I'll go to jail. If a native does so he could go to a sentencing circle which would keep him out of jail. Who knows what a Muslim sharia court would do to him - buy him a car, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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