Canadian Political Polls

myata · July 8, 2009

Indeed stability and prosperity were good for this country, and as a result created a large middle class which is now the main electorate base for both parties of the duopoly. Because the parties are now vying for pretty much the same electorate, they are mimicking each other on one hand, and avoiding serious decisions on the other. As a result parties are becoming harger and harder to distinguish between. This eventually would lead to voter apathy, and the unavoidable reform of the system, so that the entire political spectrum, not only middle majority can have a meaningful representation.

madmax · July 8, 2009

The NDP writes bills....sure, but as long as they keep Layton as leader, they have no intention of governing. It's not about quantity.

Possibly the biggest joke going is that the NDP had the EI bill before Parliment, and Ignatieff being Absent, missed the boat. His party supported the NDP bill on Changes to the EI system. SHortly thereafter, Ignatieff says he is going to champion EI. Rather then support the bill through parliment, he cuts a deal with Harper to have lattes and steak BBQs for the Summer.

As long as the Liberals are intent on standing up for something, you can be certain they will be the first to stand down.

As long as there is something popular in the polls, the Liberals will adopt it, and when they get to the house ignore it.

Quite frankly, its not about quantity, its about quality and integrity. Both missing from the Liberals of 2006 to 2009.

If the Liberals had any conviction towards helping those people on EI that they claimed they were intent on aiding, they would have kept parliment running until the bill was passed 3rd reading, and help accelerate the process. Instead, they joined the Conservatives in putting it off.

Both parties patting themselves on the back for a job well done.

jdobbin · July 8, 2009

If the Liberals had any conviction towards helping those people on EI that they claimed they were intent on aiding, they would have kept parliment running until the bill was passed 3rd reading, and help accelerate the process. Instead, they joined the Conservatives in putting it off.
Both parties patting themselves on the back for a job well done.

No excuses for the delay except for the fact that it would probably have led to an election and based on the stands of most of the parties, we'd be having an election all the time.

How many elections do you want?

punked · July 8, 2009

No excuses for the delay except for the fact that it would probably have led to an election and based on the stands of most of the parties, we'd be having an election all the time.
How many elections do you want?

Enough to bring about actual reform not the promise of it.

jdobbin · July 8, 2009

Enough to bring about actual reform not the promise of it.

So...an election every week.

punked · July 8, 2009

So...an election every week.

If that is what it takes. I some how think it isn't what it takes. No one said creating a better future would be easy, but our country deserves it.

jdobbin · July 8, 2009

If that is what it takes. I some how think it isn't what it takes. No one said creating a better future would be easy, but our country deserves it.

And this is why the NDP can't get ahead.

punked · July 8, 2009

And this is why the NDP can't get ahead.

Because we want our government to work for the people and wont be scared everytime someone threatens an election? Yes our future is worth it sorry.

jdobbin · July 8, 2009

Because we want our government to work for the people and wont be scared everytime someone threatens an election? Yes our future is worth it sorry.

Keep it up. Don't know if it will help you win more seats.

punked · July 8, 2009

Keep it up. Don't know if it will help you win more seats.

Don't care if my party stands for something, it is the Liberals that bend and sway with the Polls. It is the Liberals that are scared of an election so much they sell the Canadian public out to the Conservatives. Their voters want one thing and the Liberals do another in hopes of forming a government by whatever means necessary. No thank you.

madmax · July 8, 2009

No excuses for the delay except for the fact that it would probably have led to an election and based on the stands of most of the parties, we'd be having an election all the time.
How many elections do you want?

Come on.... There was no election or election threat. There was a bill on the floor to reform EI. The bill could have amendments attached as often happens. Regardless, the bill had the support of the majority of the house. It was not a bill that could bring down the government. Therefore NO ELECTION and certainly NO JUNE or JULY election.

The only election threat came from a twit who decided he would challenge the government, and back down within the 20 minute question period with the media after his opening salvo on EI.

I believe the response was.. GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY.

The fact that the Liberals have been threatening elections since Dion came to power and supporting the Conservatives lock step is no surprise. The surprise was that Ignatieff used the same Dion Tactic and had his bluff called.

All this had NOTHING to do with EI reform. Especially considering the Liberals have never had a bill on EI reform in the house since they changed the rules 13 years ago.

Election Bluffs are for Liberals.

Jerry J. Fortin · July 8, 2009

Come on.... There was no election or election threat. There was a bill on the floor to reform EI. The bill could have amendments attached as often happens. Regardless, the bill had the support of the majority of the house. It was not a bill that could bring down the government. Therefore NO ELECTION and certainly NO JUNE or JULY election.
The only election threat came from a twit who decided he would challenge the government, and back down within the 20 minute question period with the media after his opening salvo on EI.

I believe the response was.. GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY.

The fact that the Liberals have been threatening elections since Dion came to power and supporting the Conservatives lock step is no surprise. The surprise was that Ignatieff used the same Dion Tactic and had his bluff called.

All this had NOTHING to do with EI reform. Especially considering the Liberals have never had a bill on EI reform in the house since they changed the rules 13 years ago.

Election Bluffs are for Liberals.

I almost hate to admit you are right. There simply wasn't any connection between the EI proposal and the election threat. If there really was then he could have called the question, but instead opted out for a little piece of saber rattling. I think it made him look bad actually.

jdobbin · July 8, 2009

Election Bluffs are for Liberals.

All the other parties have been ready to blame the Liberals for any election while taking no responsibility for their no compromise positions.

Not surprisingly, many voters think all parties are acting stupidly.

punked · July 9, 2009

All the other parties have been ready to blame the Liberals for any election while taking no responsibility for their no compromise positions.
Not surprisingly, many voters think all parties are acting stupidly.

"Waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa the Liberals aren't allowed to vote they actually think"-Dobbin

Sorry your party stinks.

jdobbin · July 9, 2009

"Waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa the Liberals aren't allowed to vote they actually think"-Dobbin
Sorry your party stinks.

How old are you? The level of childishness is sometimes overwhelming.

Given the public opinion polls on all the parties, the public certainly doesn't think highly of any of the game playing. If they thought the NDP was golden, they'd be government now.

punked · July 9, 2009

How old are you? The level of childishness is sometimes overwhelming.
Given the public opinion polls on all the parties, the public certainly doesn't think highly of any of the game playing. If they thought the NDP was golden, they'd be government now.

It is becuase everytime someone points out to you, your party crumbles like a dry cookie, you some how blame it on other parties for no caving to the Cons like yours does. That is just a silly arguement "It is the Bloc and NDP's fault my paper does not do what they say they will"

jdobbin · July 9, 2009

It is becuase everytime someone points out to you, your party crumbles like a dry cookie, you some how blame it on other parties for no caving to the Cons like yours does. That is just a silly arguement "It is the Bloc and NDP's fault my paper does not do what they say they will"

The game the NDP plays is to blame the Liberals for an election and then when they don't one, they blame the Liberals for not having an election.

It is going to be quite satisfying to see the NDP lose seats come election time.

punked · July 9, 2009

The game the NDP plays is to blame the Liberals for an election and then when they don't one, they blame the Liberals for not having an election.
It is going to be quite satisfying to see the NDP lose seats come election time.

Just like it was amazing to see the Liberals only get 77 seats this election.

jdobbin · July 9, 2009

Just like it was amazing to see the Liberals only get 77 seats this election.

That wasn't a surprise. You were expecting that Layton would be the next PM like he was saying last election?

I fully expect the NDP to lose seats this next election in part because of Layton.

punked · July 9, 2009

That wasn't a surprise. You were expecting that Layton would be the next PM like he was saying last election?
I fully expect the NDP to lose seats this next election in part because of Layton.

If people get to know Iggy I expect us to hold. The sooner the better for Iggy so the progressives do not learn he is a right winger.

Smallc · July 9, 2009

If people get to know Iggy I expect us to hold.

Well, I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

punked · July 9, 2009

Well, I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

Really why not? I think we will be just fine as a party, we hold together during good times and bad, sticking to what we believe in.

jdobbin · July 9, 2009

Really why not? I think we will be just fine as a party, we hold together during good times and bad, sticking to what we believe in.

In third place or lower.

Smallc · July 9, 2009

But you won't form government. Not as long as you stick to such a rigid ideology. The federal NDP could learn from their Manitoba counterparts. Canadians are not ideologues (for the most part).