M.Dancer Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 Or Jews. Arabs hate each other almost as much as they hate the Jews...without the jews the Syrian would be at the Egyptians, the Sauds at the Yeminis, etc etc...it's like that everywhere half civilized people set up their tents... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 And I am one who does not recognize Isreal's right to exist. Denying any nation's right to exist is genocide. Denying a Jewish nation its right to exists has been done to death. Welcome to the banality of idiotic reruns. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Moonlight Graham Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 Denying any nation's right to exist is genocide. Denying a Jewish nation its right to exists has been done to death. Welcome to the banality of idiotic reruns. There's a big difference between a nation and a nation-state. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
M.Dancer Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 There's a big difference between a nation and a nation-state. Yes, nation states rarely give up the ghost without a fight, which is why so many rue the day the nation of Israel became a Nation State. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 Hey HAMAS suporters...make sure you give the ol' HAMAS salute as you post. --------------------------------------------- Israel, as the Jewish state, must disappear from the map. ---Sheikh A. Yassin: founder of HAMAS Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 Israel isn't going anywhere and neither are the Palestinians. The sooner they both come to terms with that, the better off everyone will be. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted January 2, 2009 Report Posted January 2, 2009 The HAMAS elements need to be removed first. ---------------------------------- What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some terrorists men you just can't reach. ---Cool Hand Luke Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Kitchener Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 The HAMAS elements need to be removed first. Yes, once they kill enough of the Palestinians who've been radicalized by violence against Palestinians, the problem of Palestinians radicalized by violence against Palestinians will be solved. Then there'll be progress with the moderate and compliant people who remain! Because that's worked a treat so far. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Yes, once they kill enough of the Palestinians who've been radicalized by violence against Palestinians, the problem of Palestinians radicalized by violence against Palestinians will be solved. Then there'll be progress with the moderate and compliant people who remain!Because that's worked a treat so far. I really doubt Israel cares what you think, there. They'll do what they have to do to stop the rockets from hitting Israeli citizens and property. So, how does it happen that a nice Canadian from Kitchener supports terrorists like HAMAS with pro-Nazi leanings? Don't worry. I don't want to hear the story. ----------------------------------------- It's a Daisy. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Thank you, I couldn't have said it better. That is 100% my stance on this.. Why should Canada support either side? Helping one side destroy another side is not keeping the peace. We have to retain our neutrality as an arbitrary peace keeper - and it is true, Israel's retaliation on Hamas is way out of control. Canada is irrelevant when it comes to this conflict....not even a small player in the region. Except for the "honest broker" fairytales for the masses. Peacekeeper? You must be joking. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Kitchener Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 So, how does it happen that a nice Canadian from Kitchener supports terrorists like HAMAS with pro-Nazi leanings? Don't worry. I don't want to hear the story. Inanely hysterical much? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Inanely hysterical much? Support terrorists much? ------------------------------- It's a Daisy. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Kitchener Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Support terrorists much? Yes, calling them radicals was pretty supportive of me, huh? Granted you only have that hammer; but it still must be hard to make everything look like a nail, eh? Quote
LesterDC Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Canada is irrelevant when it comes to this conflict....not even a small player in the region. Except for the "honest broker" fairytales for the masses.Peacekeeper? You must be joking. Well Canada is relevant to this topic. Learn to read Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Well Canada is relevant to this topic. Learn to read Learn what "relevant" means. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LesterDC Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) Learn what "relevant" means. "If Canada supports Israel, Why Don't We Do Something?" Obviously, this thread is about the Canadian stance on the Israel-Palestine issue.. Edited January 3, 2009 by LesterDC Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 "If Canada supports Israel, Why Don't We Do Something?" Obviously, this thread is about the Canadian stance on the Israel-Palestine issue.. OK....which is about as relevant as Fiji's "stance". Why doesn't Fiji do something? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LesterDC Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 OK....which is about as relevant as Fiji's "stance". Why doesn't Fiji do something? Tell that to the author of this thread.. Besides, at least Canada is part of the G7, they have the ability to be a presence. I'm sure when North Korea v.s. South Korea was going on, nobody really thought that Canada had a presence either.. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Tell that to the author of this thread.. Besides, at least Canada is part of the G7, they have the ability to be a presence. I'm sure when North Korea v.s. South Korea was going on, nobody really thought that Canada had a presence either.. Look...it's just the way of the world. Canada does not have "presence" in the MidEast conflict. It is not influential nor does it have a dog in the fight. There is no comparison to Korea. Has anyone even articulated Canada's "Mideast policy"? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LesterDC Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Has anyone even articulated Canada's "Mideast policy"? Mostly because our policy is the same as the American policy. But you know what? It's pretty much true, we don't have much individual influence in the Mideast, but does that stop us from having a stance on it? We are part of the west and I'm pretty sure most of our governments have a stance on it Quote
jbg Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 It's difficult for Canada or any country to take sides without first learning all the facts; but ultimately diplomacy, not bombs must prevail. Aggression is getting us nowhere. JFK said "Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind." (Speech to UN General Assembly, Sept. 25, 1961).And just who in Hamas should Israel be talking to? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 ....and bizarrely hoping to impose a moderate government by violence?Not so bizarre. The U.S.'s closest non-English speaking ally (I consider Israel to be English-speaking) is Japan. Violence had something to do with the presence of moderate governments in that country. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 It goes a lot further than that. There will be no peace in the Middle East in our time. Give it 50-100 years when we don't need oil anymore. Then Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc can sit on their sand and get laughed at. Maybe by then they'll also accept that Israel is there to stay, because it's not going anywhere.Any reader of the Old Testament knows that even pre-Islam, the local wildlife Amalakites, Jebusites, Phillistines et. al. were harassing the Hebrews. They were also engaged in some massive debauchery such as sodomy (read Sodom and Gomorrah), human sacrifice, torturing of animals etc. The more things change the more they stay the same. Just plug the Palestinians in for those other, doubtless more colorful tribes. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Mostly because our policy is the same as the American policy. But you know what? It's pretty much true, we don't have much individual influence in the Mideast, but does that stop us from having a stance on it? It's not that bad...but close. 1. Canada "considers" Hamas to be a terrorist organization 2. Canada "insists" that Hamas and Palestine recognize Israel's right to exist and denounce violence 3. Canada "supported" the now defunct Roadmap to Peace 4. Canada "supports" the human rights of Palestinians We are part of the west and I'm pretty sure most of our governments have a stance on it But what does that mean in real terms...just more hand wringing and protests in Toronto? What is/can Canada actually do with a "strong" stance? By comparison, the US "stance" has material significance. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Palestine is an apartheid state now. With Arabs treated as second class citizens. I find it funny that people here are against racism and discrimination in Canada but it's fine for Jews to discriminate against Arabs and that is perfectly acceptable. Hypocrisy of the left wing, typical. If the US stopped sending Billions to Israel every year in cash and military equipment Israel would be gone in less than a year. And you'd want your community (in view of your other posts) populated by far less threatening Francophones and immigrants? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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