MolonLabe Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 I am a Libertarian through and through, but living up in the Yukon doesn't give us that option on the ballot. Until such time though I vote Conservative. Quote
dlkenny Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 I dont know if this has been posted yet or even asked, who would you vote for, and why?? OR would you even vote? I would hope you would vote, even if you voted for a third party It would be one hell of an election. I'd vote for the conservatives, not because I'm a staunch supporter but because I think they haven't been given a fair chance to lead the country. Only two months ago the conservatives took a majority in every province except Quebec which essentially robbed them of the majority government. In addition, the Liberals suffered their second worst loss since Confederation and they are trying to make backroom deals to regain power - it's a lust for power, they feel they are entitled to it despite being told a very convincing "no." Perhaps the conservatives weren't given a clear mandate but the Liberals were told very clearly that we didn't want them governing right now and it's my opinion that they should accept it and try to work within the minority parliament. If it can't be made to work then I would vote for the Conservatives again simply because I don't feel that they've been given a clear opportunity to lead the country and pass meaningful legislation. Moreover, I would hope more Canadians would see it this way and at least give them the chance they were elected to have. I just have to say that I'm willing to vote as often as is necessary, it's not a huge event for me to walk to the polling station and mark an X. For some reason people get tired of voting and complain as if it were a full time job but I think it's important and I think it's rediculous to complain about having to spend 10 minutes once every two or four years marking a ballot. Quote If you understand, no explanation necessary. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.
punked Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 I'd vote for the conservatives, not because I'm a staunch supporter but because I think they haven't been given a fair chance to lead the country. Only two months ago the conservatives took a majority in every province except Quebec which essentially robbed them of the majority government. In addition, the Liberals suffered their second worst loss since Confederation and they are trying to make backroom deals to regain power - it's a lust for power, they feel they are entitled to it despite being told a very convincing "no." Perhaps the conservatives weren't given a clear mandate but the Liberals were told very clearly that we didn't want them governing right now and it's my opinion that they should accept it and try to work within the minority parliament. If it can't be made to work then I would vote for the Conservatives again simply because I don't feel that they've been given a clear opportunity to lead the country and pass meaningful legislation. Moreover, I would hope more Canadians would see it this way and at least give them the chance they were elected to have. I just have to say that I'm willing to vote as often as is necessary, it's not a huge event for me to walk to the polling station and mark an X. For some reason people get tired of voting and complain as if it were a full time job but I think it's important and I think it's rediculous to complain about having to spend 10 minutes once every two or four years marking a ballot. Do you just not count anything east of Quebec as a province? They didn't take a majority of NS, or PEI, or win a seat in NFLD. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 Do you just not count anything east of Quebec as a province? They didn't take a majority of NS, or PEI, or win a seat in NFLD. The CPC and PM Harper had support for a majority in every region of Canada except Quebec where the Bloc took the lead. 12 more seats is all that's needed. We'll get them very soon now that voters see that if the Tories don't get a majority then the LPC and the NDP will join with the separatist Bloc to overthrow the government in CoupScam. The voters see the true intention of Ignatieff and Layton which is to grab power at any and all cost with the Bloc holding the balance of power. The Tories will have a massive majority very soon. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
punked Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 The CPC and PM Harper had support for a majority in every region of Canada except Quebec where the Bloc took the lead. 12 more seats is all that's needed. We'll get them very soon now that voters see that if the Tories don't get a majority then the LPC and the NDP will join with the separatist Bloc to overthrow the government in CoupScam. The voters see the true intention of Ignatieff and Layton which is to grab power at any and all cost with the Bloc holding the balance of power. The Tories will have a massive majority very soon. DO YOU NOT COUNT ANYTHING EAST OF QUEBEC! Quote
Mr.Canada Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 DO YOU NOT COUNT ANYTHING EAST OF QUEBEC! They had support for a majority of every region of Canada except Quebec where they only won 10 seats. Nfld'ers have learned their lesson. St.Johns North and south will go blue next time around as will other Atlantic ridings once Bill Casey rejoins the Tories. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Ontario Loyalist Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 All things considered, it's kind of disturbing that people would habitually vote Conservative given all that we know about the party and Stephen Harper. This is the kind of blind devotion that has led to so many problems elsewhere in the world, and one can only wonder when that will happen here should Harper remain PM, moreso should he get a majority. This guy lies through his teeth; he calls an illegal election, lies about the economy, doesn't know how much we're spending in Afghanistan, shuts down Parlaiment to avoid a non-confidence vote, plans to stack the Senate with cronies, etc. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
eyeball Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 CONSERVATIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whatelse is there? Anything actually. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Mr.Canada Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 he calls an illegal election, HE did? When, where? Did it go to the Supreme Court with Harper found guilty? If so, can I get the date of the judgment please? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 once Bill Casey rejoins the Tories. Is he planning to do that? Why was he going to vote no confidence if given the opportunity/ Quote
bluegreen Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 I'd vote Green. The reasons are simple. 7 years ago I held my 6 week old baby daughter in my hands as she turned dark blue with an asthma attack. We live in Toronto, next to a major highway, and the smog had been very bad that summer. Our pediatrician told me that I should move my family out of the city, because there was nothing else to be done, and the hospital was already too full of asthma cases during the summer. 65,000 hospital admission every year. that's not emergency room visits, that's actual admissions. Everything else in politics is posturing as far as I am concerned. I threw my PC membership away, and looked for some way to really influence Ottawa. Every year, people die in the hundreds of thousands from pollution related causes in Canada, and all of a sudden I really did give a shit. Maybe you should all think about that a bit when you cast your ballot for a fractional difference in your marginal tax rate, or some 'lock up the criminals' rhetoric. The only purpose of Green Policy is to put viable solutions on the table, and exert pressure on the rest of them. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 I will for Liberal, for a change. The current government simply is too arrogant for my liking. Quote
dlkenny Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 All things considered, it's kind of disturbing that people would habitually vote Conservative given all that we know about the party and Stephen Harper. This is the kind of blind devotion that has led to so many problems elsewhere in the world, and one can only wonder when that will happen here should Harper remain PM, moreso should he get a majority. This guy lies through his teeth; he calls an illegal election, lies about the economy, doesn't know how much we're spending in Afghanistan, shuts down Parlaiment to avoid a non-confidence vote, plans to stack the Senate with cronies, etc. I never said I would habitually vote conservative. Quite the opposite if I thought Harper would screw up the country. Quote If you understand, no explanation necessary. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.
Riverwind Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 As a center right voter I don't really have any choice other than the conservatives, however, Iggy could change that and I am willing to hear what he has to say. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
NanaimoConservative Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) I would vote for the Conservatives. They would most likely get a majority this time after the crap that has gone on this month. With a majority they would not have to wimp out on some policies and could go ahead and make changes that I would like to see including the following. End the party welfare payments and have each party earn their own election funds. Have Senate seats elected Have Supreme Court judges elected Pass a unborn victims of crime act of some kind Adjust CBC's funding to what it deserves, $0.00. Make Quebec equal to the other provinces and stop the special treatment and bills made just for them. Have an actual vote by the people of Canada on gay marriage. He wimped out holding another vote only in Parliament as a minority government so when he lost he could throw up his hands and say "Oh well, I tried!". There are others but I forget at the moment. (edit) - added number 7 Edited December 23, 2008 by NanaimoConservative Quote
Smallc Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) I would vote for the Conservatives. They would most likely get a majority this time after the crap that has gone on this month. Yeah...they'll do even better against the weak Michael Ignatieff than they did against the strong Stephane Dion...oh..wait. Seriously though, when an election happens, I really hope that Canadians remember all of the lies....but I think that's too much to ask for. Edited December 23, 2008 by Smallc Quote
madmax Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 I'd vote Green. The reasons are simple. What a surprise, coming from a GP activist and organizer. 7 years ago I held my 6 week old baby daughter in my hands as she turned dark blue with an asthma attack. We live in Toronto, next to a major highway, and the smog had been very bad that summer. Our pediatrician told me that I should move my family out of the city, because there was nothing else to be done, and the hospital was already too full of asthma cases during the summer. 65,000 hospital admission every year. that's not emergency room visits, that's actual admissions. It sounds like a serious Asthma attack. However, Asthma is one of the most misdiagnosed allergies. There are many factors causing Asthma, particularly in a Newborn, including Caesarian Section. Moving out of the city may or may not improve the situation. Many kids in the country grow up with Asthma. The level of misdiagnosing children in the city is not uncommon. Moving may not solve the Cause of the Asthma attack. Too many variable factors involved. Everything else in politics is posturing as far as I am concerned. I threw my PC membership away, and looked for some way to really influence Ottawa. Every year, people die in the hundreds of thousands from pollution related causes in Canada, and all of a sudden I really did give a shit. Maybe you should all think about that a bit when you cast your ballot for a fractional difference in your marginal tax rate, or some 'lock up the criminals' rhetoric. The only purpose of Green Policy is to put viable solutions on the table, and exert pressure on the rest of them. I bolded your line about posturing. Your choice is clear, but your party is no different from Harpo, Grouco, Zeppo, and Chico. The GP are Gummo Quote
madmax Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 I will for Liberal, for a change. The current government simply is too arrogant for my liking. You prefer Liberal Arrogance? That's nice Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 With a new Liberal leader my vote is far from certain, it all depends how far Ignatieff can swing the party back to the centre. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 You prefer Liberal Arrogance? That's nice Not really, but I will vote against it every single time. Quote
gordiecanuk Posted December 23, 2008 Report Posted December 23, 2008 I guess no one wants to say why. I think you'd get a better response if you asked who people WON'T vote for....and I'd guess that the biggest numbers would be in the Liberal and Conservative boxes. Liberals for arrogance/corruption and Conservatives for broken promises and/or a socially conservative agenda. I get the distinct impression a lot of Canuks don't vote so much for any particular party, rather they're voting against the ones they don't like. Quote You're welcome to visit my blog: Canadian Soapbox
DrGreenthumb Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 I am a Libertarian through and through, but living up in the Yukon doesn't give us that option on the ballot.Until such time though I vote Conservative. If you were really a libertarian, the Conservatives would be the LAST party you would vote for, unless of course you were a masochist as well. Only someone who is seriously delusional or brainwashed would believe that the Conservative party is a friend to civil liberties. These are the guys that want to lock teenagers in jail for smoking pot. Mandatory minimums for growing a single pot plant. Take away a woman's right to choose. make it illegal to marry whomever you want. Do these sound like libertarian ideas to you? I once believed that conservatives were libertarian, but they are the furthest from it. The current CPC is barely a half step up the evolutionary(or is that creationary) ladder from the Christian Heritage Party. Their moralistic crusade is a crusade against personal freedoms. Quote
bluegreen Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 What a surprise, coming from a GP activist and organizer. It sounds like a serious Asthma attack. However, Asthma is one of the most misdiagnosed allergies. There are many factors causing Asthma, particularly in a Newborn, including Caesarian Section. Moving out of the city may or may not improve the situation. Many kids in the country grow up with Asthma. The level of misdiagnosing children in the city is not uncommon. Moving may not solve the Cause of the Asthma attack. Too many variable factors involved. I bolded your line about posturing. Your choice is clear, but your party is no different from Harpo, Grouco, Zeppo, and Chico. The GP are Gummo Without wasting time discussing to what extent Asthma is misdiagnosed, I will respond that yes, my choice IS clear, and the Party which I support is substantially different from the others. My vote is a very clear statement, that is understood by all who observe, or record it's impact. The influence on policy makers across Party lines is significant and direct. My vote counts for something specific and meaningful, while the majority of votes are buried in a mountain of policy dross. I mean, really, wtf does 'strong leadership' mean? rubbish, that's what. Triple 'e' senates? Like magic, no constitutional reform required? 'Family values? What empty rhetoric. There is little to chose between all the bought and paid for Party's Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 the Party which I support is substantially different from the others. My vote is a very clear statement, that is understood by all who observe, or record it's impact. The influence on policy makers across Party lines is significant and direct. My vote counts for something specific and meaningful, while the majority of votes are buried in a mountain of policy dross. And the winner of the "Most optimistic rose coloured post" aqaed goes to..... The reason the GP is mired in policy iis because they are unorganized hippies with a popunjay leader who can't even organise a campaign.///fringe voters by and large are ignored... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
ToadBrother Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 I would vote for the Conservatives. They would most likely get a majority this time after the crap that has gone on this month.With a majority they would not have to wimp out on some policies and could go ahead and make changes that I would like to see including the following. End the party welfare payments and have each party earn their own election funds. Have Senate seats elected Have Supreme Court judges elected Pass a unborn victims of crime act of some kind Adjust CBC's funding to what it deserves, $0.00. Make Quebec equal to the other provinces and stop the special treatment and bills made just for them. Have an actual vote by the people of Canada on gay marriage. He wimped out holding another vote only in Parliament as a minority government so when he lost he could throw up his hands and say "Oh well, I tried!". There are others but I forget at the moment. (edit) - added number 7 Ah look, the social reactionary wing of the Conservatives is out in force again. Quote
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