Black Panthers blocking voters

[Mr.Canada]

Armed Black Panthers have been blocking polling stations intimidating McCain supporters and white people.

This is outrageous. <----- Check this link for the news story.

We cannot allow this form of intimidation to go on in this country. Let's hope anyways.

Edited November 5, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[Sir Bandelot]

It was also reported that gangs of white meanies were harrassing black voters at some of the voting stations. On Anderson Cooper 360, one of the long-time panelists (can't remember his name) reported this and said that at one black church up to 30 cars had their tires slashed by these thugs. This was on CNN, mind you.

I did not hear about the Black Panthers anywhere. But today theres no mention of it, either way.

[Mr.Canada]

It was also reported that gangs of white meanies were harrassing black voters at some of the voting stations. On Anderson Cooper 360, one of the long-time panelists (can't remember his name) reported this and said that at one black church up to 30 cars had their tires slashed by these thugs. This was on CNN, mind you.

I did not hear about the Black Panthers anywhere. But today theres no mention of it, either way.

I provided a link to the news coverage with eyewitness reports and one of them was a vote watcher. Put in place to make sure this sort of behavior doesn't occur!

[White Doors]

It was also reported that gangs of white meanies were harrassing black voters at some of the voting stations. On Anderson Cooper 360, one of the long-time panelists (can't remember his name) reported this and said that at one black church up to 30 cars had their tires slashed by these thugs. This was on CNN, mind you.

I did not hear about the Black Panthers anywhere. But today theres no mention of it, either way.

I saw the video of the black panthers. not good.

The cops took care of it though

[JerrySeinfeld]

I saw the video of the black panthers. not good.

The cops took care of it though

So far Obama:

Friends with Terrorists

Racist Pastor of 20 years

Black Panthers Intimidating Voters at Polling Stations

AND HE'S NOT EVEN IN OFFICE YET.

Can't wait for the next 4 years.

[Sir Bandelot]

So far Obama:

Friends with Terrorists

Racist Pastor of 20 years

Black Panthers Intimidating Voters at Polling Stations

And don't forget, incumbent president of the United States! Hoo Hah!

[guyser]

So far Obama:

Friends with Terrorists

Racist Pastor of 20 years

Black Panthers Intimidating Voters at Polling Stations

AND HE'S NOT EVEN IN OFFICE YET.

Can't wait for the next 4 years.

You forgot ...

The media won it for him.

He stole the election.

Come man, use that manual.

[GostHacked]

You forgot ...

The media won it for him.

He stole the election.

Come man, use that manual.

Methinks the tinfoil will be on the other head now.

[kengs333]

You forgot ...

The media won it for him.

He stole the election.

Come man, use that manual.

Yeah, unlike Bush who simply won because of rigged voting machines.

[sharkman]

It was also reported that gangs of white meanies were harrassing black voters at some of the voting stations. On Anderson Cooper 360, one of the long-time panelists (can't remember his name) reported this and said that at one black church up to 30 cars had their tires slashed by these thugs. This was on CNN, mind you.

I did not hear about the Black Panthers anywhere. But today theres no mention of it, either way.

If you're going to post something of such importance, at least provide a link so people don't think you're making it up.

At any rate, I haven't heard of the Black Panther story today, it got buried by the MSM. Also buried was what the Dow Jones did today in direct response to B.O's win. Get used to it folks, the MSM will see and hear no evil where B.O. is concerned.

[Sir Bandelot]

If you're going to post something of such importance, at least provide a link so people don't think you're making it up.

Theres no link. It was on TV. I did search the AC360 website to find a transcript, couldn't find it.

Where does it say we have to provide links for everything we post... and why would I want to lie.

Tire slashing is not a rare occurence, happened a few times.

Edit- I did find a link to an incident-

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=307949

Edited November 6, 2008 by Sir Bandelot

[BC_chick]

Did you catch that? What was that... a backward "B" on his cheek?

[Mr.Canada]

Theres no link. It was on TV. I did search the AC360 website to find a transcript, couldn't find it.

Where does it say we have to provide links for everything we post... and why would I want to lie.

Tire slashing is not a rare occurence, happened a few times.

Edit- I did find a link to an incident-

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=307949

I provided a linkm, of course people here will bury it as not good enough. Seems like nothing is.

[Sir Bandelot]

I provided a linkm, of course people here will bury it as not good enough. Seems like nothing is.

I don't doubt your claim Mr. Canada. The voter intimidation occured on both sides, but I suspect they were isolated incidents and most people voted without any problems.

Theres some immature haters here, with nothing better to do than snipe everyone else. Probably because, their life sucks in other ways, so this is how they get some kind of false sense of superiority. Thats often the case with bullies, who like to point out other peoples defects to deflect attention from their own. I guess you've probably figured that out.

As a kid, I could never tolerate bullies, even if it was someone else they were bullying, I felt compelled to do something about it.

Edited November 6, 2008 by Sir Bandelot

[Kitch]

If you're going to post something of such importance, at least provide a link so people don't think you're making it up.

At any rate, I haven't heard of the Black Panther story today, it got buried by the MSM. Also buried was what the Dow Jones did today in direct response to B.O's win. Get used to it folks, the MSM will see and hear no evil where B.O. is concerned.

What kind of animal is the Dow Jones? I didn't know it could respond to such stimuli.

So, either the "MSM" buried the story, or, it exaggerated the story... well, here's an article quoting the same FOX reporter as saying that there were two men standing outside the polling station but that there were no incidents.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081104/0...ing-station.htm

Here's a video of the police arriving. The two guys weren't standing directly in front of the door, as the 'witness' in the FOX report said. They were standing a good distance from the door. Not to say that they weren't trying to intimidate anybody... but if they were, it was simply through their presence.

http://www.electionjournal.org/2008/11/04/...-polling-place/

AND another that hints at the possibility of the "MSM" over-blowing the story. So, which is it? I suspect that one's decision as to whether the story was buried or exaggerated will be directly related to their political ideology/chosen candidate.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1...lown.html?cat=9

[charter.rights]

What kind of animal is the Dow Jones? I didn't know it could respond to such stimuli.

So, either the "MSM" buried the story, or, it exaggerated the story... well, here's an article quoting the same FOX reporter as saying that there were two men standing outside the polling station but that there were no incidents.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081104/0...ing-station.htm

Here's a video of the police arriving. The two guys weren't standing directly in front of the door, as the 'witness' in the FOX report said. They were standing a good distance from the door. Not to say that they weren't trying to intimidate anybody... but if they were, it was simply through their presence.

http://www.electionjournal.org/2008/11/04/...-polling-place/

AND another that hints at the possibility of the "MSM" over-blowing the story. So, which is it? I suspect that one's decision as to whether the story was buried or exaggerated will be directly related to their political ideology/chosen candidate.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1...lown.html?cat=9

Now is the time that the Republicans will complain and add their excuses for losing the election. Blame everyone but themselves. McCain just didn't have what it takes to overcome 8 years of living in the Bush.

[kimmy]

Here's a video of the police arriving. The two guys weren't standing directly in front of the door, as the 'witness' in the FOX report said. They were standing a good distance from the door. Not to say that they weren't trying to intimidate anybody... but if they were, it was simply through their presence.

There WERE standing directly in front of the door, as the first link shows. It's right there in the video. There's the dudes. There's the door. They're 10 feet in front of the door. Are you going to tell us that they're not "directly" in front of the door because they were 10 feet in front of it instead of 2 feet?

It's two men dressed in the uniforms of a well-known paramilitary organization, carrying night-sticks. Trying to rationalize it as anything other than an attempt at intimidation is pure crap.

-k

[JB Globe]

There WERE standing directly in front of the door, as the first link shows. It's right there in the video. There's the dudes. There's the door. They're 10 feet in front of the door. Are you going to tell us that they're not "directly" in front of the door because they were 10 feet in front of it instead of 2 feet?

It's two men dressed in the uniforms of a well-known paramilitary organization, carrying night-sticks. Trying to rationalize it as anything other than an attempt at intimidation is pure crap.

-k

Even if what you're saying is true - what does it prove? That the Black Panthers decided to act on their own and intimidate McCain voters? I don't see how you can link this to Obama anymore than you can if the remnants of the KKK decided to use whatever influence they have left to intimidate people into voting McCain.

[Kitch]

There WERE standing directly in front of the door, as the first link shows. It's right there in the video. There's the dudes. There's the door. They're 10 feet in front of the door. Are you going to tell us that they're not "directly" in front of the door because they were 10 feet in front of it instead of 2 feet?

It's two men dressed in the uniforms of a well-known paramilitary organization, carrying night-sticks. Trying to rationalize it as anything other than an attempt at intimidation is pure crap.

-k

Did you stop reading my post half way Kimmy?

People could have, and presumably did, walk around these guys. Maybe some were intimidated. I didn't say that they were justified in being there... just that the story was exaggerated.

[kimmy]

Even if what you're saying is true - what does it prove? That the Black Panthers decided to act on their own and intimidate McCain voters? I don't see how you can link this to Obama anymore than you can if the remnants of the KKK decided to use whatever influence they have left to intimidate people into voting McCain.

First off, I didn't attempt to make any link with Obama. I don't believe in the slightest that these two knuckleheads had anything to do with the Obama campaign.

Secondly, if KKK members were stationed outside of a polling station, you can bet that a lot of people would be talking about it, a lot of people would claim it tainted the election results, and some people would no doubt be claiming it as somehow demonstrates something about Republican supporters as a group.

Did you stop reading my post half way Kimmy?

No, I just quoted the part that seemed like a pathetic attempt to rationalize what was going on. Hey, just a couple of dudes chilling on the street. People could just walk around them... if people are scared of armed men in paramilitary uniform, that's their own problem.

People could have, and presumably did, walk around these guys. Maybe some were intimidated. I didn't say that they were justified in being there... just that the story was exaggerated.

The same could be said in the above-mentioned scenario of KKK members outside a polling station. Hey, people can just go past them, right? If somebody doesn't want to come face to face with Klansmen on their way to vote, that's their own problem, right?

The same could be said of banana-republic elections where people have to walk past El Presidente's stormtroopers to cast their votes. Hey, people can just go past them, right? If somebody doesn't want to come face to face with El Presidente's thugs on their way to vote, that's their own problem, right?

There's no evidence that these men prevented anyone from voting, and as for whether anyone saw these armed men and chose to not even approach the station, one can only guess.

This person, a Republican poll observer, claims that the men did act in an intimidating manner when he approached the poll:

"We got a phone call that there was intimidation going on. I walked up to the door, two gentlemen in Black Panther garb, one brandishing a nightstick, standing in front of the door. They closed ranks as I walked up. I am a veteran; that does not scare me. I went inside and found poll-watchers, they said they had been here for an hour — I went inside and found poll-watchers, they said that they had said not to let people outside because black people are going to win no matter what. At that point, I spoke to him, we would not get into a fistfight, I said, and I called the police."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1..._voters_in.html

The man's political affiliation obviously invites the suggestion that his account is biased. However, the Panthers' confrontational attitude toward the student with the video camera suggests that they were not exactly just a couple of guys standing around relaxing.

-k

[Oleg Bach]

The blacks have been falselyb empowered and Obama knows it - what a user! He will have no loyalty to what is not even his real extended clan. Obama will take the power and use it....If it means destroying segments of useless, violent and un-rehabilitatable blacks, He will do it. The Black panther leadership has mature and will do anything for money - I would assume that whites could have drafted them to destablize the situation...money talks...Idealogy if of the young and strong....I wonder if the Panthers brought their walkers?

[Kitch]

No, I just quoted the part that seemed like a pathetic attempt to rationalize what was going on. Hey, just a couple of dudes chilling on the street. People could just walk around them... if people are scared of armed men in paramilitary uniform, that's their own problem.

The same could be said in the above-mentioned scenario of KKK members outside a polling station. Hey, people can just go past them, right? If somebody doesn't want to come face to face with Klansmen on their way to vote, that's their own problem, right?

The same could be said of banana-republic elections where people have to walk past El Presidente's stormtroopers to cast their votes. Hey, people can just go past them, right? If somebody doesn't want to come face to face with El Presidente's thugs on their way to vote, that's their own problem, right?

There's no evidence that these men prevented anyone from voting, and as for whether anyone saw these armed men and chose to not even approach the station, one can only guess.

This person, a Republican poll observer, claims that the men did act in an intimidating manner when he approached the poll:

"We got a phone call that there was intimidation going on. I walked up to the door, two gentlemen in Black Panther garb, one brandishing a nightstick, standing in front of the door. They closed ranks as I walked up. I am a veteran; that does not scare me. I went inside and found poll-watchers, they said they had been here for an hour — I went inside and found poll-watchers, they said that they had said not to let people outside because black people are going to win no matter what. At that point, I spoke to him, we would not get into a fistfight, I said, and I called the police."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1..._voters_in.html

The man's political affiliation obviously invites the suggestion that his account is biased. However, the Panthers' confrontational attitude toward the student with the video camera suggests that they were not exactly just a couple of guys standing around relaxing.

-k

You're going on and on, seemingly for no reason. I never said that they were just two dudes hanging out. I'm really not that slanted in my opinions to recognize what these two clowns were doing there. What I AM trying to say is that the original poster of this story and a few people that I've heard/seen talk about it have over exaggerated.

The dude you quoted was a voter, not a poll-watcher. I saw the video that he was in from which your quote was taken... but that's irrelevant.

I'm sure the story would be viewed the same way by people on the opposite side if it was KKK members standing in front of a polling station trying to intimidate voters. But if all they were doing was standing there, then it's not that interesting. As this story isn't THAT interesting.

I have in no way tried to justify their presence, only point out the sensationalization by a few people.

By the way, I don't know what, exactly, you're referring to with the phrase "bannana republic elections" but I assume you're talking about latin American 'elections'. I REALLY don't think you're trying to compare what happens down in those countries to what happened in America... are you?

[kimmy]

I'm sure the story would be viewed the same way by people on the opposite side if it was KKK members standing in front of a polling station trying to intimidate voters. But if all they were doing was standing there, then it's not that interesting. As this story isn't THAT interesting.

You really can't grasp it, can you.

Uniformed, armed goons in front of a polling station don't have to be "doing" anything to be an issue. Their mere presence is unacceptable. Their mere presence *is* the story.

By the way, I don't know what, exactly, you're referring to with the phrase "bannana republic elections" but I assume you're talking about latin American 'elections'. I REALLY don't think you're trying to compare what happens down in those countries to what happened in America... are you?

I mention banana republic elections as an example of why real democracies don't let armed thugs stand in front of polling stations.

If the student who videotaped the Black Panthers, and the person who called the police, and the police who responded to the call were all of the same view as you, then yes, America would be a lot like a banana republic. But fortunately it turns out that America is still a country where thugs in front of polling stations *is* considered an issue.

-k

[Kitch]

You really can't grasp it, can you.

Uniformed, armed goons in front of a polling station don't have to be "doing" anything to be an issue. Their mere presence is unacceptable. Their mere presence *is* the story.

I mention banana republic elections as an example of why real democracies don't let armed thugs stand in front of polling stations.

If the student who videotaped the Black Panthers, and the person who called the police, and the police who responded to the call were all of the same view as you, then yes, America would be a lot like a banana republic. But fortunately it turns out that America is still a country where thugs in front of polling stations *is* considered an issue.

-k

For real? I'm not the one who can't grasp anything that's been discussed here.

I never said, nor do I think, that this was not an 'issue'. Of course these guys shouldn't have been standing there, AS I SAID, in an attempt to intimidate voters. But the fact is that the police were called and the one with the weapon was taken away. And the guy who wasn't taken away, well, I don't know what to say about that.

Do you think that the police should have forced the other guy to leave too?

I hope that it's clear now that I'm not saying that 1. this is not an issue or 2. these guys were justified in just hanging out. Again, you seem to be trying to make a bigger deal out of this than it really was. I think the news coverage was appropriate. Do you disagree? Do you really think that, IN THE END, this event could lead to 'real' problems such as in Latin America?

[kimmy]

Do you really think that, IN THE END, this event could lead to 'real' problems such as in Latin America?

Not unless people decide that this sort of thing isn't really a big deal.

-k