Obama Steps In It Again

[Shady]

Ohio Coal Association Says Obama Remarks Make It Clear: Obama Ticket Not Supportive of Coal

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov 03, 2008 /PRNewswire--USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association (OCA), today issued the following statement in response to just-released remarks from Senator Barack Obama about the nation's coal industry.

"Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America's coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it.

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Not only tens of thousands of American jobs, but tens of thousands of UNIONIZED, MANUFACTURING jobs. Again, Obama slips up, and tells us the truth about his real plans for the country.

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[bush_cheney2004]

Excellent! I think Mr. Dion could join an Obama cabinet and give us a Carbon Tax to boot.

[Liam]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na...0,6104195.story

"'That tape' is excerpted from a Jan. 17 San Francisco Chronicle editorial board interview with the Illinois senator.

The remarks posted on YouTube include a pledge by Obama to create a cap-and-trade system, under which polluters must buy credits to offset their emissions. Such an aggressive policy, he said, would spur the development of technology that uses cleaner sources of power.

"So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted," Obama said.

Palin did not mention remarks Obama made elsewhere in the interview about coal's role in the nation's energy future.

"But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion," he said. ". . . If we set rigorous standards for the allowable emissions, we can allow the market to determine, and technology and entrepreneurs to pursue, what's the best approach to take."

The Obama campaign called the tape "wildly edited" to take the candidate's remarks out of context."

The quote mas made in January. Someone decided to splice it up and post it to YouTube and a coal industry lobbyist (and Palin) now act like this is new or controversial.

[guyser]

The quote mas made in January. Someone decided to splice it up and post it to YouTube and a coal industry lobbyist (and Palin) now act like this is new or controversial.

Desparation.......will we hear the "He is Muslim and Black" line today ?

[Shakeyhands]

Desparation.......will we hear the "He is Muslim and Black" line today ?

Oh probably, but we'll most likely hear him refered to as President-Elect tomorrow night.

[Liam]

Oh, and by the way, when Obama said that building more coal plants would end up bankrupting the coal industry, he was referring to costs associated with a market-based cap-and-trade system of controlling greenhouse emissions. Does anyone care to guess which other party's nominee supports a similar cap-and-trade system to reduce greenhouse gas emissions? Anyone?

Seriously, I am beginning to think the current GOP should never be in charge of the military because none of 'em can shoot straight anymore.

[Liam]

Desparation.......will we hear the "He is Muslim and Black" line today ?

My favorite are the whispers that Obama fathered not one, but two black babies.

[Hcheh]

GOP supporters: *cricket*

[Shady]

Desparation.......will we hear the "He is Muslim and Black" line today ?

Again, another perfect example of how you cannot criticize the Messiah on actual government policy, without it being turned into some kind of racist attack. I'll almost be glad when fuckface wins the election, serves his 4 or 8 years, and then gets the hell away, so that we can go back to actually debating policy and legislation without the McCarthyism.

[Riverwind]

"But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion," he said. ". . . If we set rigorous standards for the allowable emissions, we can allow the market to determine, and technology and entrepreneurs to pursue, what's the best approach to take."

This does not alter the meaning of his explicit statements on bankrupting coal plants nor does it alter his assertion (correct) that GHG regulations will cause electricity prices to skyrocket. It won't likely affect the outcome of tomorrow's election since most people have likely made up their minds but it does demonstrate Obama's habit of telling different audiences what they want to hear without any thought to how he will meet the impossible expectations he creates as a result.

[guyser]

Again, another perfect example of how you cannot criticize the Messiah on actual government policy, without it being turned into some kind of racist attack. I'll almost be glad when fuckface wins the election, serves his 4 or 8 years, and then gets the hell away, so that we can go back to actually debating policy and legislation without the McCarthyism.

My my such a leap. McCarthyism?

Who was it that started this thread with outright obfuscation?

But for you I offer this...

McCarthyism:

Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs was often greatly exaggerated.

You might want to edit your post, you know, to get rid of the embarassing stuff.

[Kitchener]

Again, another perfect example of how you cannot criticize the Messiah on actual government policy, without it being turned into some kind of racist attack. I'll almost be glad when fuckface wins the election, serves his 4 or 8 years, and then gets the hell away, so that we can go back to actually debating policy and legislation without the McCarthyism.

Yes, it'll be great to get back to the last eight years of hysterical shrieks of "Islamofascism!" "Terrurrrrism!" and "Don't Cut and Run!". Obama's sure wrecked that policy-driven public discourse that America's enjoyed under its current administration.

[Liam]

Again, another perfect example of how you cannot criticize the Messiah on actual government policy, without it being turned into some kind of racist attack.

Hold on... trying to... lift file of articles... by rightwingers... who turned any... criticism of Bush policy... into... hating... America

[Liam]

This does not alter the meaning of his explicit statements on bankrupting coal plants nor does it alter his assertion (correct) that GHG regulations will cause electricity prices to skyrocket. It won't likely affect the outcome of tomorrow's election since most people have likely made up their minds but it does demonstrate Obama's habit of telling different audiences what they want to hear without any thought to how he will meet the impossible expectations he creates as a result.

It could also be used as another example of Sarah Palin's attacking Obama for espousing a policy that is remarkably similar to McCain's own position.

[BubberMiley]

I'll almost be glad when fuckface wins the election,

With these few words, you showed what you are made of. Thanks for doing your (very, very) small part towards electing Obama throughout this campaign.

[sharkman]

Well, the fur is flying in this thread!

This is a legitimate concern, however. Obama wants to charge(tax) the coal industry into recession. Anyone want to guess what this will do to the price of electricity in the States, since a large chunk of the supply comes from coal? Goodbye tax refund.

[jdobbin]

With these few words, you showed what you are made of. Thanks for doing your (very, very) small part towards electing Obama throughout this campaign.

Hard to believe the anger is some people.

[peter_puck]

My favorite are the whispers that Obama fathered not one, but two black babies.

:-). First post that made me laugh in a long time