Obama a marxist, a racist and an anti-semite?

[bush_cheney2004]

That's not the point. The point is that he can say that and still get elected but could a white man say that we should kill all blacks and still get elected?

Obama never said such a thing AFAIK, but yes, "white men" have gotten elected after expressing such sentiments or having such associations (Example: Senator Robert Byrd and the Klan, now the longest serving US Senator for almost 50 years).

No because of reverse racism and double standards. Blacks can say whatever they want but if whites used the exact same language but changed the races their political career would be over. There are 2 sets of rules.

Not really...the "rules" only matter if the context of "power" are understood. Kill "whitey" is not a new idea, but has only been advocated by fringe political elements and/or individuals over the years. Today, neither version are politically viable.

American pop culture already did the Civil Rights and "All in the Family" thing over 30 years ago...not nearly as squeamish about such things. I don't know that Canada (which also has the same racially motivated elements) had any parallel in domestic media or social consciousness, and some may view Obama with a very dated perspective, just like some Americans, regardless of their race.

He is going to win and I cannot wait to see how many anti white laws he passes. I'm sure that many will make excuses for it and just say well ' we deserve it for the past'. Perhaps he'll get assassinated. Look what happened to Kennedy who was far less controversial. They need another civil war.

Don't hold your breath waiting for "anti-white" laws. Hell, Obama isn't really "black" anyway. We might see the Reparations clowns come back for another go at it, but "white people" needn't worry, especially those in the Great White North.

Edited October 26, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[Guest American Woman]

QUOTE= Mr. Canada: Perhaps he'll get assassinated for the good of the country.

Yes I forgot. We have the thought police up here. That statement isn't against the law SirBandelot. You really should study the law.

You might want to look into the law yourself:

Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act prohibits the communication by means of a telecommunication undertaking (including the Internet) of messages that are likely to expose a person to hatred or contempt on the basis of:

* race

*national or ethnic origin

*colour

link

Your message certainly exposes Obama to hatred and contempt, saying that because he's black he's going to pass laws against white people, and that it would be "for the good of the country" if he were assassinated.

I see you were 'smart' enough to edit your post in spite of your 'protestations' regarding the hate message it contained.

[Mr.Canada]

You might want to look into the law yourself:

Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act prohibits the communication by means of a telecommunication undertaking (including the Internet) of messages that are likely to expose a person to hatred or contempt on the basis of:

* race

*national or ethnic origin

*colour

link

Your message certainly exposes Obama to hatred and contempt, saying that because he's black he's going to pass laws against white people, and that it would be "for the good of the country" if he were assassinated.

I see you were 'smart' enough to edit your post in spite of your 'protestations' regarding the hate message it contained.

It has nothing to do with race but his policies and what his mentor has been teaching him for 20 years. Just like Kennedy. Pres Kennedy's assassination had nothing to do with his race but policy.

It contains no hate, just reality. There are some crazy people in the US.

Do me a favour and grow up.

Edited October 26, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[Mr.Canada]

Non partisan FACTS from the video.

1. His name Barrack Hussein Obama - Three Muslim names.

2. Next to nothing known about his past.

3. Born to a Muslim from Kenya.

4. Attended a Muslim school in Jakarta.

5. Over 100 times in the house Hussein Obama has not voted yes or no just present.

6. Large Cuban flag with a portrait of mass murderer Che Guevara hangs in his office.

7. Refuses to wear American flag pin on his lapel.

8. Refuses to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem.

9. Anti-American statements from his wife during campaign.

10. Stated Rev. Jeremiah Wright is his mentor for over 20 years.

11. Condemns a white man for making off colour remarks but doesn't do the same for his Mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

12. Hussein Obama's Mentor for over 20 years preaches Black Liberation Theology and Liberation Theology which are based on Marxist ideals and originated Fidel Castro's Cuba.

13.Hussein Obama's Mentor Rev. Jeremiah Wright also holds James Cone's books in high regard. Dr. Cone teaches that Gods that are not for black people but for white people they'd better kill them. Also Black power which states that Blacks should kill their white oppressors by any means necessary.

14. Black Liberation theology teaches that all white people are racists.

15. Husein Obamas Mentor Rev Jeremiah Wright also teaches that Israel is a dirty word and Jews are like whites and opressors of black people. Supports and has travelled with Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam hate monger. He has been tought this doctrine for over 20 years.

16. Hussein Obama has stated that he will lift the ban on terrorist leaders and will sit down with them face to face.

Stick to the facts please.

[Guest American Woman]

It has nothing to do with race but his policies and what his mentor has been teaching him for 20 years. Just like Kennedy. Pres Kennedy's assassination had nothing to do with his race but policy.

Do me a favour and grow up.

You said he was going to pass "anti white laws" because he's black. That has everything to do with race. Do me a favor and fuck off. We don't need you posting your hatred towards our candidates from Canada.

[stignasty]

Non partisan FACTS from the video.

"Let's connect the dots."

You know, if you want to use things like the flag pin and the middle name to rationalize your own beliefs, that's fine, Just don't expect everyone else to be swayed.

Biker gangs commit crimes.

Biker gangs ride Harleys.

People who drive Harleys are criminals.

It's called logical fallacy.

Here are some facts.

Stockwell Day's father had ties to a western separatist group. (Link)

Stephen Harper appointed Stockwell Day to cabinet.

Stephen Harper has been seen in a cowboy hat and leather vest.

Stephen Harper once wrote an article entitled “Separation, Alberta-style: It is time to seek a new relationship with Canada”

Let's connect the dots:

Stephen Harper is a Western Separatist and cowboy bondage fanatic!!!! (cue dramatic music)

[Mr.Canada]

You said he was going to pass "anti white laws" because he's black. That has everything to do with race. Do me a favor and fuck off. We don't need you posting your hatred towards our candidates from Canada.

That's really constructive language. You don't seem to mind stating things about our PM so give me a break.

After 20 years of Mentoring from Rev. Jeremiah Wright that includes Black Liberation Theology, Liberation Theology and Dr. James COne you expect that he will be impartial?

LOL.

Edited October 26, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[bush_cheney2004]

It contains no hate, just reality. There are some crazy people in the US.

True...but all US presidents (and candidates) face this threat. Not just Obama.

[Mr.Canada]

True...but all US presidents (and candidates) face this threat. Not just Obama.

Finally someone gets it.

Thank you sir.

[stignasty]

"Let's connect the dots."

You know, if you want to use things like the flag pin and the middle name to rationalize your own beliefs, that's fine, Just don't expect everyone else to be swayed.

Biker gangs commit crimes.

Biker gangs ride Harleys.

People who drive Harleys are criminals.

It's called logical fallacy.

Here are some facts.

Stockwell Day's father had ties to a western separatist group. (Link)

Stephen Harper appointed Stockwell Day to cabinet.

Stephen Harper has been seen in a cowboy hat and leather vest.

Stephen Harper once wrote an article entitled “Separation, Alberta-style: It is time to seek a new relationship with Canada”

Let's connect the dots:

Stephen Harper is a Western Separatist and cowboy bondage fanatic!!!! (cue dramatic music)

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[Mr.Canada]

http://www.ehmac.ca/gallery/uploads/1213/Rodeoclown.jpeg

A lot of people in Alberta wear cowboy hats. If you've ever lived there with your eyes open you'd know that.

Since when does what someone looks like decide the person they are. We aren't allowed to do that with immigrants or criminals but it's ok for you to profile Albertans?

Edited October 26, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[Guest American Woman]

You don't seem to mind stating things about our PM so give me a break.

Once again, fuck off. I never once so much as remotely insinuated that it would be "for the good of the country" if he were "assassinated." I never even used the word "assassination" in regards to Harper. So yeah, I don't mind stating things about your PM and I don't mind your "stating" things about our candidates. What I DO mind is your saying that Obama's going to pass anti-white laws and therefore it would be "for the good of the country" if he were assassinated.

Then you went on to say:

It contains no hate, just reality.

Now you're saying it's "reality" that it would be "for the good of the country" if he were assassinated.

You really don't know when to put a cork in it, do you? You were wrong in what you said, but instead of admitting it, you are doing a pathetic song and dance that anyone with any sense at all can see right through.

[stignasty]

A lot of people in Alberta wear cowboy hats. If you've ever lived there with your eyes open you'd know that.

Since when does what someone looks like decide the person they are. We aren't allowed to do that with immigrants or criminals but it's ok for you to profile Albertans?

Actually, I posted that in the hope that you might actually read the previous post...

This Albertan (born and raised) will try it one more time.

"Let's connect the dots."

You know, if you want to use things like the flag pin and the middle name to rationalize your own beliefs, that's fine, Just don't expect everyone else to be swayed.

Biker gangs commit crimes.

Biker gangs ride Harleys.

People who drive Harleys are criminals.

It's called logical fallacy.

Here are some facts.

Stockwell Day's father had ties to a western separatist group. (Link)

Stephen Harper appointed Stockwell Day to cabinet.

Stephen Harper has been seen in a cowboy hat and leather vest.

Stephen Harper once wrote an article entitled “Separation, Alberta-style: It is time to seek a new relationship with Canada”

Let's connect the dots:

Stephen Harper is a Western Separatist and cowboy bondage fanatic!!!! (cue dramatic music)

[Oleg Bach]

"Bondage fanatic" ? I thought that I was the resident dramatist- not bad....don't give up your day job. Alberta is a seperatist province - as is Quebec - Ontario is to confused and of a multi-mental culture - to be seperate from anything - Toronto being the independent liberal city state does not have the common sense to seperate anything - They are still working on the good and evil factor and are drowning in moral realativism - with gun shots as theme music.

[kimmy]

Easy. He's run as open a campaign in terms of policy as anyone. You're just not paying close attention.

In terms of Afghanistan, move troops out of Iraq and into Afghanistan to beat the Taliban once and for all.

Are you sure? Obama's own speeches make it clear that his Afghanistan policy involves demanding a larger commitment from other NATO countries. As a Canadian, are you of the belief that our commitment there isn't sufficient?

Will hearing that we need to do more be easier to swallow if it comes from a Nice Guy president?

In terms of trade, he's rather protectionist, giving tax breaks to companies that keep jobs in the U.S. and punishing those who move them out.

That's not a trade policy, it's a sound bite.

The actual trade policy articulated on his official site includes planks like

"Fight for fair trade: Obama and Biden will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs."

(hmm. what leverage might they employ to cause that to happen?)

"Amend NAFTA: Obama and Biden believe that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. They will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers."

(hmm. what leverage might they employ to cause that to happen?)

(hmm. isn't this what his campaign assured our representatives wasn't part of the plan at all?)

And yes, other things including the one you mentioned. Still, you missed the two most important parts for Canada.

That's what their official site says. Looking around at other stuff around the net, one finds things like this: http://worldtradelaw.typepad.com/ielpblog/...e-of-the-t.html

where the Obama representative (Lael Brainard, cited as potentially Obama's trade honcho) adds ideas like pressuring China regarding their currency (hmm. what leverage might they employ to cause that to happen?)

Even if you've done your homework on this (which seems iffy...), I find myself skeptical that most of the Canadians who support him so enthusiastically have done the same. I can picture thousands of unemployed Ontario and Quebec factory workers clutching their severance pay sobbing "...but I thought he was a Nice Guy.. :( "

-k

[kimmy]

By the way, this idea that once Obama gets elected he's going to turn into some kind of Black Power vigilante taking revenge for 250 years of injustice is just the most irrational, paranoid thing ever. Like, get real.

However, I have heard rumours (friend of a friend, no names...) that the FBI is already preparing for trouble with white supremacists in the event that Obama gets elected.

As Drea mentions, whichever candidate wins, there will be some people who will be extremely upset. You can bet that US law and order is going to be very prepared for a wide range of possibilities on Nov 4.

-k

[Pliny]

Are you sure? Obama's own speeches make it clear that his Afghanistan policy involves demanding a larger commitment from other NATO countries. As a Canadian, are you of the belief that our commitment there isn't sufficient?

.................................................................

-k

Very nice post Kimmy. It is an illustration of the interventionist governmental engineering typical of socialist politicians.

The video presented is obviously slanted but one thing about the Obama campaign that is vague is, not that Obama is a leftist, but how far left he is, resulting in videos such as this which suggests his position is pretty far left.

I, quite frankly, think he is really a bit timid about admitting how far left he is and some statements like "I want to spread the wealth around" just slip out now and then.

Refusing to wear a lapel flag pin and not putting his hand over his heart at the playing of the National Anthem is symbolic and will cost him some votes. I think it should cost him a lot of votes. If he doesn't respect American tradition, he is definitely for change, but is he interested in change that redefines America as a socialist state rather than a country of freedom and liberty and independence. He obviously doesn't feel strongly that America is a country of freedom and liberty and independence as he is not upholding it's symbolic gestures. I believe he is more about the socialist concept of egalitarianism, forcing equality by law instead of under the law.

America needs change, in my opinion, but more of a reversion than a progression of it's political direction. Obama is about acceleration of it's progression toward the nanny state. I like Sarah Palin.

[Pliny]

Actually, I posted that in the hope that you might actually read the previous post...

This Albertan (born and raised) will try it one more time.

"Let's connect the dots."

You know, if you want to use things like the flag pin and the middle name to rationalize your own beliefs, that's fine, Just don't expect everyone else to be swayed.

Biker gangs commit crimes.

Biker gangs ride Harleys.

People who drive Harleys are criminals.

It's called logical fallacy.

Here are some facts.

Stockwell Day's father had ties to a western separatist group. (Link)

Stephen Harper appointed Stockwell Day to cabinet.

Stephen Harper has been seen in a cowboy hat and leather vest.

Stephen Harper once wrote an article entitled “Separation, Alberta-style: It is time to seek a new relationship with Canada”

Let's connect the dots:

Stephen Harper is a Western Separatist and cowboy bondage fanatic!!!! (cue dramatic music)

That was all done by you lefties when Harper became leader and some still believe it to this day. Funny you illustrate it as being nonsensical here on this thread. Did you say the same to your colleagues back then?

[Oleg Bach]

Rightism in nature is the natural flow and creates a smooth and livable world...I just hope that the conservative right remembers that they are supposed to be right and just...maybe the extreme right has become the sinister left? Sinastra or sinister literally means left...Dexter is right of course..as the ancients said the wages of sinisterism is death - conservatism was supposed to conserve and preserve life...forget that breed of privateers and prirates that are called neo-cons - where are the real conservatives when you need them???

[GostHacked]

Mr. Canada... I put in replies that take down some of the points in your video. Do you want to address that or just keep up the drive-by-postings. Once we discuss those already debunked articles, (like debunked during the debates for the Dem nod. Then we can close this thread.

Edited October 26, 2008 by GostHacked

[Mr.Canada]

Mr. Canada... I put in replies that take down some of the points in your video. Do you want to address that or just keep up the drive-by-postings. Once we discuss those already debunked articles, (like debunked during the debates for the Dem nod. Then we can close this thread.

Ok great so you agree that Hussein Obama has been mentored by a racist, Marxist ideology for 20 years and continues to this day. He is in Rev. Jeremiah Wrights "church" today. The same man that said "God Damn America". This man is mentoring the future President of the United States. You don't see a problem with that?

[Guest American Woman]

Mr. Canada... I put in replies that take down some of the points in your video. Do you want to address that or just keep up the drive-by-postings. Once we discuss those already debunked articles, (like debunked during the debates for the Dem nod. Then we can close this thread.

I did too. Seems they go unnoticed. It's obvious that his intent is to just re-post the same post over ... and over .... and over.

[Mr.Canada]

I did too. Seems they go unnoticed. It's obvious that his intent is to just re-post the same post over ... and over .... and over.

Run down my List of Facts and type next to them which ones are true and which points are false. We will stick to the points you conceive as false after you admit in plain English which points are true. If you have the guts.

[Oleg Bach]

Ok great so you agree that Hussein Obama has been mentored by a racist, Marxist ideology for 20 years and continues to this day. He is in Rev. Jeremiah Wrights "church" today. The same man that said "God Damn America". This man is mentoring the future President of the United States. You don't see a problem with that?

Hate to admit it but just about all that REV> Wright said was true.. The car companies run by cold hearted steel blue eyed whites - the oil companies - the banks - and so on - big deal - lets get on with it...Looks like we are all stuck in the same boat and pointing fingers will only poke holes in that boat...I don't give a damn if Obama is a racist - as long as he is a loyal racist - but he like Oprah will sell out his own family - if he is just - no problem - if he is just a front for the the white cruel fat cats - then that will harm us further - Justice will prevail - as it says at Osgoode Hall in Toronto " Let right prevail" - sadly not one lawyer or judge has looked at that herald on the wall for decades - time to wake up.

[Guest American Woman]

Run down my List of Facts and type next to them which ones are true and which points are false. We will stick to the points you conceive as false after you admit in plain English which points are true. If you have the guts.

Run through my posts refuting points in your list and respond to what I've said. If you have the guts. That's generally how it's done-- when posters aren't simply interested in re-posting the same post ad naseum.