Ontario Loyalist Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Another embarassment for the Conservatives as one of their candidates had to quit because she had several criminal convictions. Interestingly, she appears to be a feminist, too. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story...ax.html?ref=rss Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The post a title of the thread are misleading. First, she is not a crook, she hasn't stolen anything, she was convicted of uttering threats. Secondly, acccording to the article she doesn't have several convictions, she has two. CBC News has learned that Luke was convicted of uttering threats in July 2006 and sentenced to 18 months probation. In June 2007, she was convicted of breaching an undertaking and fined $50. She also got an additional nine months probation. Breaching an undrtaking can means several things, most likely she had an order to stay away from the person whom she uttered threats. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Another embarassment for the Conservatives as one of their candidates had to quit because she had several criminal convictions. Interestingly, she appears to be a feminist, too. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story...ax.html?ref=rss Reminds me again of the old Reform days. Once in a while a bad apple would be discovered on their candidates list. Reform would boot them out, even choosing once when the writ had already been dropped to go with NO candidate rather than a crook or a racist! The Liberals of course had the same thing happen a few times but chose instead to just wave their hands and say" Well, what can we do?". They tended to make their bad apples party leaders! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I don't really see how this means much of anything. She wasn't allowed to run. She was booted out of the party. The conservatives didn't want a convicted criminal in their ranks. What's the deal? I suppose, according to Ontario Loyalist, that Stephen Harper hand-picked her knowing that she had a criminal record because he wants as many criminals in his cabinet as possible. He himself is obviously evil and that would just be a smart thing to do. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Honestly, if this happened to another party, many people here would be howling with delight and derision. Just goes to show you... Well, whether she ran or not, she certainly was crooked and was elected as the riding's candidate... Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermo Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I don't really see how this means much of anything. She wasn't allowed to run. She was booted out of the party. The conservatives didn't want a convicted criminal in their ranks. What's the deal?I suppose, according to Ontario Loyalist, that Stephen Harper hand-picked her knowing that she had a criminal record because he wants as many criminals in his cabinet as possible. He himself is obviously evil and that would just be a smart thing to do. While I agree this isn't exactly a scandal by an means... I do always find it interesting when we see Harper/the Cons - who went into the last election posing as the champions of an open and democratic way of governing - hand picking candidates, often against the will of the local riding associations without a vote or even discussion. This sort of thing can be expected when you subvert the democratic system and have a just few people making decisions like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Honestly, if this happened to another party, many people here would be howling with delight and derision. Just goes to show you...Well, whether she ran or not, she certainly was crooked and was elected as the riding's candidate... Yes. A lot of people have double standards. Still doesn't mean it's right nor does it mean that this is a particularly noteworthy issue. The conservatives are having trouble fielding candidates in Novia Scotia. The riding in question is currently held by the NDP. They likely hand picked this candidate because nobody else wanted to run in a riding they would almost certainly lose. Turns out she was a bad apple. Now they have to probably pick a new one unless someone steps up. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 While I agree this isn't exactly a scandal by an means... I do always find it interesting when we see Harper/the Cons - who went into the last election posing as the champions of an open and democratic way of governing - hand picking candidates, often against the will of the local riding associations without a vote or even discussion. This sort of thing can be expected when you subvert the democratic system and have a just few people making decisions like this. You're right, of course. This is yet another example of how the new Tory Party abandoned a Reform/Alliance principle of free and open nominations at the riding level in favour of HQ calling the shots. However, since the other parties have ALWAYS appointed their candidates and made a total farce out of the idea of folks in a riding picking their own candidates for nomination, this also leaves me without an attractive alternative. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 You're right, of course. This is yet another example of how the new Tory Party abandoned a Reform/Alliance principle of free and open nominations at the riding level in favour of HQ calling the shots.However, since the other parties have ALWAYS appointed their candidates and made a total farce out of the idea of folks in a riding picking their own candidates for nomination, this also leaves me without an attractive alternative. That's not entirely true of any the parties. Most candidates are selected at the riding level and when one is parachuted in there is usually a big stink like when Ruby Dhalla or ingnatief was placed by Martin. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 That's not entirely true of any the parties. Most candidates are selected at the riding level and when one is parachuted in there is usually a big stink like when Ruby Dhalla or ingnatief was placed by Martin. Well, that's the OFFICIAL line! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Isn't the title of this thread a little slanderous? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Isn't the title of this thread a little slanderous? Are you serious? There's nothing slanderous about calling a criminal a "crook". Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Doors Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 was elected as the riding's candidate... Wrong again, she wasn't elected, she was acclaimed. I know you are way over there in Ontario and can't give two craps about the rest of the country and this interests you only because you hate the dreaded CONS, but at least get your facts straight will ya? Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Director of a women's empowerment organization, convicted of uttering threats... This sounds like it might be a domestic abuse issue rather her being a criminal offense as we might typically think. Records don't always mean what they appear to say. I know a guy who is on a sexual offender registry. His crime? Peeing on the side of a building while drunk when he was 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 good ridance to bad rubbish, the conservatives accountability comes back, they railroaded trash out of the party. How is that a bad thing. Looks pretty accountable to me. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 This sounds like it might be a domestic abuse issue rather her being a criminal offense as we might typically think. Oh, please; yes, let's make excuses for her. Why? Because she's a woman? Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) ... Edited September 11, 2008 by Cameron Quote Economic Left/Right: 3.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26 I want to earn money and keep the majority of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visionseeker Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) Director of a women's empowerment organization, convicted of uttering threats...This sounds like it might be a domestic abuse issue rather her being a criminal offense as we might typically think. Records don't always mean what they appear to say. I know a guy who is on a sexual offender registry. His crime? Peeing on the side of a building while drunk when he was 19. I call bull sh!t! No police officer goes through the myriad of paper work involved in a sexual offense charge (and meets with the crown attorney) for a simple matter of urinating in public. It would be a career limiting move in the extreme. Edited September 11, 2008 by Visionseeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGreenthumb Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I call bull sh!t!No police officer goes through the myriad of paper work involved in a sexual offense charge (and meets with the crown attorney) for a simple matter of urinating in public. It would be a career limiting move in the extreme. I call bullshit too. The police are much too busy investigating and busting people for growing, possessing smoking, or selling cannabis to other adults who want it that they would never have time to bust a drunken dumbass from pissing on the side of someones building. That may have been his excuse for why he pulled out his weiner in front of some woman or child who complained to the police about it, but like Harper's excuses for calling an election it was just BS. We ran into some drunken idiots like that the last time we stayed in a local hotel. They were drunk and standing at the top of the water slide exposing themselves to the young girls when they got to the top, including my 6 year old daughter. Never fails to amaze me how conservatives think drunkeness excuses ANY behavior, yet seek to punish people for using cannabis which is not known to lead to any of the stupid obnoxious behavior that drunks commonly display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefferiah Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) deleted Edited September 11, 2008 by jefferiah Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefferiah Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Isn't the title of this thread a little slanderous? Maybe, but we have to give it points for the alliteration. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Maybe, but we have to give it points for the alliteration. If only Capricorn could have copied it Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 If only Capricorn could have copied it Thanks for the tip Dancer. Shoot. I could have titled my Dhaliwal thread: "Liberal lobbies for lowlife" or "Grit Gaga for Gangsta". So many opportunities, so little time. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I call bull sh!t!No police officer goes through the myriad of paper work involved in a sexual offense charge (and meets with the crown attorney) for a simple matter of urinating in public. I only know what he told me. Supposedly happened in Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Honestly, if this happened to another party, many people here would be howling with delight and derision. Just goes to show you... Irony Alert! Quote The government should do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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