jbg Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) On the occasion of July 4, US Independence Day and close to Dominion Day, I will affirmatively and strongly state that we owe a lot of our prosperity and happiness to having perhaps the best neighbors one can have; neighbors with a common culture, common history (up to 1774 that is), similar language and familial and business ties that make the relationship stronger than blood. The U.S. is a more brassily patriotic country. Tonight, my wife and I watched fireworks displays and patriotic concerts preceding them from across the country. I don't believe in any country do you hear, in so many cities and spontaneously organized (with no government input) medleys of songs such as: Yankee Doodle; She's a Grand Old Flag; G-d Bless America; Our Country T'is of Thee (plagarized from G-d Save the Queen); This Land is Your Land (authored by a committed Leftist, almost Communist); and of course The Star Spangled Banner. I am posting the lyrics of This Land is Your Land to show that the patriotism in our country runs deeply, and well across political lines: This Land Is Your Land (link to lyric provider) This land is your land This land is my land From California to the New York island; From the red wood forest to the Gulf Stream waters This land was made for you and Me. As I was walking that ribbon of highway, I saw above me that endless skyway: I saw below me that golden valley: This land was made for you and me. I've roamed and rambled and I followed my footsteps To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts; And all around me a voice was sounding: This land was made for you and me. When the sun came shining, and I was strolling, And the wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling, As the fog was lifting a voice was chanting: This land was made for you and me. As I went walking I saw a sign there And on the sign it said "No Trespassing." But on the other side it didn't say nothing, That side was made for you and me. In the shadow of the steeple I saw my people, By the relief office I seen my people; As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking Is this land made for you and me? Nobody living can ever stop me, As I go walking that freedom highway; Nobody living can ever make me turn back This land was made for you and me Edited July 5, 2008 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
gc1765 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Happy Independence Day to all you Americans... Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
jbg Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 Happy Independence Day to all you Americans...Thanks and Happy Dominion Day to all Canadians. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
maldon_road Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 I don't believe in any country do you hear, in so many cities and spontaneously organized (with no government input) Sad, ain't it, when the taxpayer has to subsidize patriotism? Quote If the men do not die well it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it.
jbg Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 Sad, ain't it, when the taxpayer has to subsidize patriotism? Do I hear "Sponsorship"? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
maldon_road Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Do I hear "Sponsorship"? It's more than that. The feds have to give money to groups to have a Canada Day celebration. At one time they gave away flags! Quote If the men do not die well it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it.
DogOnPorch Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 I kinda miss the ol' Red Jack/Ensign. (Happy late 4th jbg) ---------------------------------------------------- He comes, he comes, the Hero comes, Sound, sound your trumpets, beat your drums. From port to port let cannon roar Howe's welcome to this Western shore. ---Tory poem circa 1776 re: General Howe Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Posted July 9, 2008 I kinda miss the ol' Red Jack/Ensign. (Happy late 4th jbg)---------------------------------------------------- He comes, he comes, the Hero comes, Sound, sound your trumpets, beat your drums. From port to port let cannon roar Howe's welcome to this Western shore. ---Tory poem circa 1776 re: General Howe Now that was a real flag!!! Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
M.Dancer Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 Now that was a real flag!!! No it isn't a real flag, it's a real ensign. Suitable for ships....not for capitals, hence the necisity of getting a real national flag, but as a Canuck, I would expect you would already know that. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
jbg Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Posted July 9, 2008 No it isn't a real flag, it's a real ensign.Suitable for ships....not for capitals, hence the necisity of getting a real national flag, but as a Canuck, I would expect you would already know that. I am not a Canuck. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
DogOnPorch Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 It's a ship's flag without the coat-of-arms. As the flag of Canada it was suitable to die for/under at Dieppe, Juno, Ortona, etc. The Maple Leaf thing we have today is a PC excuse to make us feel less British/French as a nation. ------------------------------- The intensity of your desire governs the power with which the force is directed. ---Prime Minister John A. McDonald Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 (edited) No it isn't a real flag, it's a real ensign.Suitable for ships....not for capitals, hence the necisity of getting a real national flag, but as a Canuck, I would expect you would already know that. So that's why 2 provinces including Ontario still use it today. Edited July 9, 2008 by Smallc Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 So that's why 2 provinces including Ontario still use it today. No, not one Province uses the "Red Ensign"...they use a different ensign all together. The Canadian Red Ensign, a red flag with the Royal Union flag in the upper corner, was created in 1707 as the flag of the British Merchant Marine. From approximately 1870 to 1904, it was used on land and sea as Canada's flag, with the addition of a shield in the fly bearing the quartered arms of Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. Although its use on land had never been sanctioned except by public usage, in 1892 the British admiralty approved the use of the Red Ensign for Canadian use at sea. This gave rise to the name the Canadian Red Ensign. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 I am not a Canuck. Sure you're not... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
g_bambino Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 No it isn't a real flag, it's a real ensign.Suitable for ships....not for capitals, hence the necisity of getting a real national flag, but as a Canuck, I would expect you would already know that. Well, an ensign is a flag, and the Red Ensign of Canada was not a flag for any capital; it served as an unofficial national flag. Besides that, a number of colonies and Dominions used a form of ensign as their flag, either red or blue. Today, Fiji, Tuvalu, Australia, and New Zealand still use an ensign as their national flag; each state of Australia and that of Hawaii also use an ensign. Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 each state of Australia and that of Hawaii also use an ensign. Except for... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of...l_Territory.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of...n_Territory.svg Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
g_bambino Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 Except for...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of...l_Territory.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of...n_Territory.svg Territories, not states. Quote
Leafless Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 Thanks and Happy Dominion Day to all Canadians. Yes jbg, you have that right. Dominion Day an historical day with a significant tradition, unlike Canada Day, a day Anglophobes and other anti-Canadian cultures by way of state sponsorship can celebrate their disloyalty to Canada. Anyway happy Independence Day although I do have concerns relating to that day. Quote
guyser Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 Dominion Day an historical day with a significant tradition, unlike Canada Day, a day Anglophobes and other anti-Canadian cultures by way of state sponsorship can celebrate their disloyalty to Canada. Yes they celebrate their disloyalty , at least as I observed at a Canada Day celebration at the beach, waving flags , Canada flags painted on the faces, silly maple leaf hats (the country not the team) festooned boats w red and white.......Hell I even heard some people conversing in French!! Oh my, it was all a hoax, they really honestly hate Canada? Uh oh, I better keep the ol' shifty eye on those people. I mean , really, I only thought I knew them, ate with them , and all along they plot against my country. Quote
Smallc Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 Yes they celebrate their disloyalty , at least as I observed at a Canada Day celebration at the beach, waving flags , Canada flags painted on the faces, silly maple leaf hats (the country not the team) festooned boats w red and white.......Hell I even heard some people conversing in French!!Oh my, it was all a hoax, they really honestly hate Canada? Uh oh, I better keep the ol' shifty eye on those people. I mean , really, I only thought I knew them, ate with them , and all along they plot against my country. I also don't seem to know many of these Canada haters. I love my country, and I know many other people that do as well. I know some people that don't like it, but really, that's their problem. Quote
guyser Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 I also don't seem to know many of these Canada haters. I love my country, and I know many other people that do as well. I know some people that don't like it, but really, that's their problem. It would seem that those that claim "hater" are indeed the ones that hate. They also, almost to a man have some recollection of a better time when in fact what they recall did not in fact ever exist. A "hater" is one who would think the whites of this land dont make mistakes . And thats for starters. But , when dealing with small minded minions......... Quote
Leafless Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 Yes they celebrate their disloyalty , at least as I observed at a Canada Day celebration at the beach, waving flags , Canada flags painted on the faces, silly maple leaf hats (the country not the team) festooned boats w red and white.......Hell I even heard some people conversing in French!!Oh my, it was all a hoax, they really honestly hate Canada? Uh oh, I better keep the ol' shifty eye on those people. I mean , really, I only thought I knew them, ate with them , and all along they plot against my country. Do you really think all of these Canadians really know what they are celebrating? Are you aware you are in fact celebrating Canada's status as a Dominion of the British Empire. Canada Day: Courtesy of Merriam-Webster On line DictionaryMain Entry: Canada Day Function: noun Date: 1950 : July 1 observed as a legal holiday in commemoration of the proclamation of dominion status in 1867 Quote
guyser Posted July 9, 2008 Report Posted July 9, 2008 Do you really think all of these Canadians really know what they are celebrating? Sure they all know what they are celebrating. It is hate Canada Day. Thats why they put on and wave flags,plant flags all over the town, paint faces w Canada flags and eat a Canada cake. And at noon we all sing Oh Canada! You should see the hate , it is palpable. (for you leafless-Palpable (pal-pa-ble) 1. readily or plainly seen, heard, perceived, etc.; obvious; evident: a palpable lie; palpable absurdity. What else could they be celebrating? Quote
Leafless Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 What else could they be celebrating? Beats me! Maybe party time, for a reason that is not understood. On Canada Day's eve I ask myself a simple question: What does it mean to be Canadian or live in Canada? Let's compare Canada with its southern neighbor - the United States. When I was a student, I was told that the youngest among the great powers - America, has the oldest written constitution. It's true considering that the United Kingdom, the former master of American colonies, still doesn't have a written constitution. But anyway, it's an indisputable fact that the United States has a constitution that can be read and understood in less than couple of hours even more than 200 years after it was written. How many democratic countries in the world can claim to have such an old and understandable basic political document? On the other side, we have Canada that has no written constitution accepted by all the provinces. The so-called repatriated constitution of early 80s was rejected by Quebec. The later version of political compromise was also rejected by some of the provinces. Quebec refused by a popular vote to be a part of the constitution, but also by referendum the majority in that province twice refused to separate from the rest of Canada. When you ask Canadians what they know about their constitution, their smile is most often the only answer. Only a few lawyers in Ottawa know what this constitution is all about, some say, but is this enough for keeping alive the fire of rights and liberties? http://www.ired.com/news/mkt/can-day.htm Quote
jbg Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Posted July 10, 2008 Anyway happy Independence Day although I do have concerns relating to that day.Thanks.Please share your "concerns". Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.