What % of non-whites are assimilated into Canadian culture?

[Guest American Woman]

Another socialist liberal making SERIOUS unfounded allegations with NO PROOF.

Thanks for pointing out you are a TROLL.

And what part of " I'm definitely not accusing Leafless of anything" would be a "SERIOUS unfounded allegation?" I could get insulting back at'cha here, but I have no need/desire to do so. Guess that must be part of my 'love all' "socialist liberal" nature.

I will however, point out that the only one making any allegations here is you: Thanks for pointing out you are a TROLL.

Edited February 29, 2008 by American Woman

[guyser]

I have no problem with non-Whites who have assimilated into Canadian culture and never did.

Huh? Never did what?

But I do think it is irresponsible of government to burden and I will say it, INVASION of the WHITE ENCLAVE, with immigrants who have no concept of living in a modern society.

Invasion of what white enclave ? All of Canada or your little neighbourhood?

Examples can range from creating disease and insect infested living conditions to direct abuse of mainly rental dwellings and private property causing significant damage, to imported customs that that are totally unacceptable including cultural links that result in assaults, rapes etc.

Glad to understand that no whites "create disease and insect infested conditions. Whitey is clean clean clean.

Naw...no whitey ever destroyed a rental property, or raped, or assaulted.

Does this mean if we got rid of all but whitey our society would be utopian ? Well then, lets get cracking commandant.

[xul]

I really can't believe how xenophobic this forum has become....

I appreciate the way that the administrators of this forum deals with such posts. Before coming here, I have watched several Canada political forums and did not find any discussions on those forum. I though they were just avoiding the debate not facing it.

Some people disagree immigration policy, dislike immigrants or worry about their "upper" culture was downgraded by newcomers, these men exist in reality. They would not change their mind or the way of thought if any authority muffled their expression. So let them to express what they thought and rouse arguement is a correct way. Even people could not persuade each other, they at least could understand the standpoint of others to avoid fatal collisions in real live.

Edited March 1, 2008 by xul

[Oleg Bach]

Go ahead tell us if it should and why?

The question really is should Canada increase the strength and numbers of the origional tribe - the anglos and the eastern European stock...that would be fine if we were superiour - and you would rather have the superiour breed as a majority in order to maintain greatness..but - I am having second thoughts on the so-called superiourity of the white race. The fact that the only guys partaking in the adventure in Afghanistan are white - that shows a one sided loyalty to our elite by the blue collar white guys that join up and die - talk about selling out your own tribe to die for fun in profit in this fabricated war...so maybe we have failed - race suicide seems to have taken over our huge extended famil - we abort our young - we offer the Order Of Canada to some creepy inbreed doctor for faciltating the killing and culling of or our tribe - and we send our best stock to be blown up like road kill in a place where the Americans had no buisness nor the Russians and certainly not up - we are inferiour - maybe we should roll over and die - seem that all those that are converting to gayness are all white also - we are a mess - maybe God is punishing us for being the real Nazi pigs.

[Leafless]

Does this mean if we got rid of all but whitey our society would be utopian ? Well then, lets get cracking commandant.

Our Whitey society is as Utopian as your going to get anywhere on this planet.

[Leafless]

And what part of " I'm definitely not accusing Leafless of anything" would be a "SERIOUS unfounded allegation?"

I quoted what you said, and it is plain and clear what you are alleging in in the form of an insulting insinuation.

Go to hell American woman!

[xul]

Huh? Never did what?

I think he meant he would never have problem with immigrants whom had entirely been "assimilated" into Canada cultural but I guess he just thought that those immigrants who disagreed or partly disagreed his point of view had not been "assimilated" into Canada culture.

And I suppose he did not aware that those his so-called "socialist liberal" culture is also a part of Canadan culture---this is partly why the culture are called "multiculture" by Canada politicians. And he also did not aware several hundreds years ago, before any non-white gene was "multied" into "Canada culture", those pure white guys also killed each other in North America, first british immigrants made war with French immigrants, then 13 colonies of pure British rebelled British King and the War lasted several years, meanwhile "pure whites" who speak English, French, German, Spanish, Russia, etc., killed each other in the war in Europe. The degree of these kind of conflicts were far "up" than any cultural conflict exist in Canada. And I don't think a British king might share more "culture" with a British poor sailor than a Russian tsar at that time.

Edited March 1, 2008 by xul

[Guest American Woman]

I quoted what you said, and it is plain and clear what you are alleging in in the form of an insulting insinuation.

Go to hell American woman!

Once again, as I clearly stated in my first post, I was in no way accusing you of anything. That was plain and clear, and your claim that I was alleging anything or making insulting insinuations is way off base. I was clearly posting about the issue of cowards and bullies and the internet. Rue had made comments that I was resonding to; comments which had nothing to do with you personally. I can't make it any more clear than that. Now if you insist in seeing something that isn't there, that's your problem; but as I clearly stated, I have no desire to start anything and I have no desire to continue along this line with you.

[Guest American Woman]

I think he meant he would never have problem with immigrants whom had entirely been "assimilated" into Canada cultural but I guess he just thought that those immigrants who disagreed or partly disagreed his point of view had not been "assimilated" into Canada culture.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

"Whites" are actually the minority in the world, and soon they will be in North America too, according to studies/statistics that I've read. In fact, whites are supposidly going to be in the minority in the U.S. by 2050, and I think that scares the bejeezus out of some people.

[Argus]

Nice choice of words.

Merely impolite, not untrue.

[Argus]

I think you hit the nail on the head.

"Whites" are actually the minority in the world, and soon they will be in North America too, according to studies/statistics that I've read. In fact, whites are supposidly going to be in the minority in the U.S. by 2050, and I think that scares the bejeezus out of some people.

Given current cultural traits and trends it ought to.

[Argus]

Is "white" a culture or a skin-pigmentation?

I think almost everyone's real concern is with culture, with the behavior, attitudes and cultural beliefs of visible minorities, most of whom are immigrants or the children of immigrants.

How would you and other women feel about us bringing over 25 million Saudis, Afghanis, Iranians, Pakistanis and Yemenis to live here? An absurd idea perhaps, but what would that do to the cultural landscape? You wouldn't be able to go outside without your burqua without being attacked by the religious police. You wouldn't be allowed to drive a car. You would be the property of your husband or father forever.

Are we likely to bring over 25 million Muslims? Of course not. Bringing over only 12 million would cause less cultural upheaval, but it would still be there.

But of course, we have, to date, only brought over about 2 million. On the other hand, we are bringing in more every year, and they are having a lot of kids. Do people actually believe that these people, as they become voters, will not influence the political and cultural landscape?

Ah, but they'll all be Canadians, by then, right? Before their numbers get to be that high their daughters will be wearing bikinis on the beach and their sons will be drunken wastrels just like ours.

But what if they aren't? What if they cling to their (by our standards) extreme religious conservatism, and keep sending their kids "home" to find a proper mate so that the next generation will be frozen in the same cultural value set?

[Guest American Woman]

Ah, but they'll all be Canadians, by then, right? Before their numbers get to be that high their daughters will be wearing bikinis on the beach and their sons will be drunken wastrels just like ours.

But what if they aren't? What if they cling to their (by our standards) extreme religious conservatism, and keep sending their kids "home" to find a proper mate so that the next generation will be frozen in the same cultural value set?

Evidently Germany is concerned about that: Germans to put Muslims through loyalty test

Muslims intent on becoming German citizens will have to undergo a rigorous cultural test to gauge their views on subjects ranging from bigamy to homosexuality.

Believed to be the first test of its kind in Europe, the southern state of Baden-Württemberg has created the two-hour oral exam to test the loyalty of Muslims towards Germany.

The state interior ministry said the test would be used to filter out Muslims who were unsuited for life in Germany. Those who answered "correctly" but later acted against expected behaviour, such as wife-beating, could have their citizenship removed.

[Leafless]

I think you hit the nail on the head.

"Whites" are actually the minority in the world, and soon they will be in North America too, according to studies/statistics that I've read. In fact, whites are supposidly going to be in the minority in the U.S. by 2050, and I think that scares the bejeezus out of some people.

By 2050, more than likely the only people left on the planet will be Whites.

[Leafless]

And I suppose he did not aware that those his so-called "socialist liberal" culture is also a part of Canadan culture---this is partly why the culture are called "multiculture" by Canada politicians.

Liberalism is a political belief system and not cultural in the least.

And he also did not aware several hundreds years ago, before any non-white gene was "multied" into "Canada culture", those pure white guys also killed each other in North America, first british immigrants made war with French immigrants, then 13 colonies of pure British rebelled British King and the War lasted several years, meanwhile "pure whites" who speak English, French, German, Spanish, Russia, etc., killed each other in the war in Europe.

So what.

Wars has been around since the beginning of mankind.

Are you saying non-Whites never battled in conflicts relating to killings?

The degree of these kind of conflicts were far "up" than any cultural conflict exist in Canada.

What we currently have are not conflicts at the moment but is the 'invitation to serious conflict' created by incompetent government in Canada, relating to a minority French culture dominating the interest of the English majority culture. The federal government actually advances the costly interest of this useless minority French language in a racial discriminatory way against the English speaking population of Canada. This in turn overshadows other major interest important Canadian society advancing as a modern progressive country.

Other potential major cultural conflicts have been promoted by basic corporate greed by forcing government to agree to its foreign anti-White sub-cultural conditions forcing large scale ethnic immigration with its many incompatible foreign cultures into the majority White population.

Edited March 2, 2008 by Leafless

[Rue]

I was not aware that Rue is a psychologist. I think you maybe went too far if there wasn't some reason I could not see. I have just read OneNoShine's earlier posts I think I entirely misunderstanded his purpose and should appologize to him for I had ever thought that he was the what kind of man I supposed him to be, though I still insists what I said literally.

But I agree the upper part what you said. If the purpose of the topic is merely a challenge to Leafless, OneNoShine should tell us his intent and do more to face Leafless on himself.

Uh yah I am. Lol. But I wa snot talking about this particular person. Just what fuels SOME bigoted people in general. I also classify myself as mentally ill. Not too worry though. I keep myself locked up in a padded place. And Leafless Americangal was responding to my generalities which are not directed at any one person.

My attitude on people who like to define people by stereotypes is to try explain why they feel the need to. I am the first to admit and concede behaviour theories are only that theories.

I have one for why I like Americanwoman. She would not burn a cross on my lawn and knows what the word putz means. You gentiles can be o.k. You just need to stop using mayonaisse amduse mustard and more rye and darkbreads and stop with the butter and ham white bread sandwitches. That is disgusting. Its as bad as those hams with the hair nets.

Edited March 1, 2008 by Rue

[eyeball]

But of course, we have, to date, only brought over about 2 million. On the other hand, we are bringing in more every year, and they are having a lot of kids. Do people actually believe that these people, as they become voters, will not influence the political and cultural landscape?

Most of these tend to hold strong conservative religious beliefs. I'm more nervous about the ideological effect they will have as voters. I do not believe these people will have the same progressive values that helped lift this country up out of the dark ages of ignorance and superstition.

[cybercoma]

How would you and other women feel about us bringing over 25 million Saudis, Afghanis, Iranians, Pakistanis and Yemenis to live here? An absurd idea perhaps, but what would that do to the cultural landscape? You wouldn't be able to go outside without your burqua without being attacked by the religious police. You wouldn't be allowed to drive a car. You would be the property of your husband or father forever.

Are we likely to bring over 25 million Muslims? Of course not. Bringing over only 12 million would cause less cultural upheaval, but it would still be there.

Are you kidding me.

You use an example, which you admit is never going to happen and is an absurd idea at best, then you go on to make wild assumptions about the results of this example in order to illustrate that this is what's happening in Canada EXCEPT NOT (I think you say, to a lesser degree).

Give me a break.

[guyser]

Our Whitey society is as Utopian as your going to get anywhere on this planet.

Then what are you whining about ?

Oh you want it more whitey and more utopian.

[xul]

Liberalism is a political belief system and not cultural in the least.

I meant the guys of your so-call socialist liberals are not share the same culture with you though most of them are white guys, if you do not only define the concept of culture as food or suit something.

And do you think you would share more same parts of culture with a pothead white guy or a white criminal more then a non-white immigrant like me?

I think I can understand that your real concern is that the bad part of the culture of some immigrants coming from developing country would downgrade the good part of culture of Canadian.

I didn't mean the culture of developing country are absolutely "down" and I don't think everyone who lives in developing country would have the same culture with his countrymen just as not every white Canadian would have the same culture, but I agree most developing country have more bad parts of culture than most develop country. I think this is why these country (include China) are called developing countries. If someone though the criterian is merely depended on the salary or welfare something, I have no doubt that Saudi Arabia will be considered the most developed country in the world.

But your post, literally, seems associated culture with skin color, I think it is wrong. For one, Senator Obama's culture is more same with Senator Clinton's than some Aferican dictators even about food and suit, I guess.

What we currently have are not conflicts at the moment but is the 'invitation to serious conflict' created by incompetent government in Canada, relating to a minority French culture dominating the interest of the English majority culture.

The federal government actually advances the costly interest of this useless minority French language in a racial discriminatory way against the English speaking population of Canada. This in turn overshadows other major interest important Canadian society advancing as a modern progressive country.

I'm not sure I'm the qualified guy here to judge the argue between British and French original Canadian. But I think you would consider this from a historic point of view. In my comprehension of Canadian history, French Canadian keeping their culture and language is a convention between British government and them in hundreds years ago. If Canadian English speaking majority tried to change this convention, Canada would face serious separatism problem far more than today.

China government also do same things funding minority area. In Tibet, each traffic sign was wirten with Tibet words and China government funds each temple to buy lama's loyalty, recently they built a railway for them, cost tens billion of dollars----just for it is not too expensive than facing lama rioting.

Edited March 2, 2008 by xul

[Leafless]

I can't make it any more clear than that. Now if you insist in seeing something that isn't there, that's your problem; but as I clearly stated, I have no desire to start anything and I have no desire to continue along this line with you.

This is what you post in reference when Rue said Leafless is not a coward.

I'm not trying to start anything here, and I'm definitely not accusing Leafless of anything, but I do think it's important to point out that many cowards and bullies do use the internet to "say exactly what they think," etc. for the very reason that the internet provides them protection that 'real life' doesn't.

No sense in denying it.

You were alleging by way of an insulting insinuation that ' IOW Leafless could very well be a coward or bully', "for the very reason that the internet provides them protection that real life doesn't".

[BubberMiley]

You were alleging by way of an insulting insinuation that ' IOW Leafless could very well be a coward or bully', "for the very reason that the internet provides them protection that real life doesn't".

Would you agree that someone who threatens physical violence anonymously over the Internet is the definition of a coward?

[jbg]

Both parents are European.

That's what Leafless wants, he tip toes around it and says "White English Culture" what he really means is he wants no non-whites in Canada even as a minority/assimilated. He's just covering it up with words just like the BNP.

For him, Jews are "non-whites".

[jbg]

Why? Because to be racist in this country you have to be white.

I agree. I am no white supremacist but I am tired of the West/Anglosphere having to be huggy-huggy, brotherly, inclusive and dilute its culture and work ethic, while other peoples, such as Muslims, can declar large chunks of the earth part of an "ummah" either off-limits to all others, or open to others only under conditions of servitude, known as "dhimmitude".

[Leafless]

I'm not sure I'm the qualified guy here to judge the argue between British and French original Canadian. But I think you would consider this from a historic point of view. In my comprehension of Canadian history, French Canadian keeping their culture and language is a convention between British government and them in hundreds years ago.

You must understand that the only part of culture Quebec really wants is the French language and no one really cares except Quebec, who uses language as a political lever to extract federal dollars and as a cheap power grab relating to political power.

Quebec has abused Charter rights by discriminating against English speaking Canadians in Quebec. The federal government also discriminates against English speaking Canadians especially relating to job advancement in the federal public service on the basis of language despite the fact both languages have equal rights and privileges according to the Charter Sec.15-(1).

Understanding that the minority French is an obsolete language relating to the majority English language, which is the de facto language of commerce in Canada, makes no sense for the federal government to support this minority obsolete language nationally.

If Canadian English speaking majority tried to change this convention, Canada would face serious separatism problem far more than today.

It is not the responsibility of English speaking Canadians to rectify this problem but is the responsibility of our dysfunctional government who cannot settle this issue due to conflicting ideologies within national federal parties especially with Quebec MP's who traditionally mainly reside within the Liberal party of Canada.

Many Canadians would like it if Quebec separated.

China government also do same things funding minority area. In Tibet, each traffic sign was wirten with Tibet words and China government funds each temple to buy lama's loyalty, recently they built a railway for them, cost tens billion of dollars----just for it is not too expensive than facing lama rioting.

If you are happy with continual blackmail, good for you!