Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

Leafless · February 23, 2008

Shaking her head in disbelief

And why is that?

You know that the Libs especially MUST protect extreme Liberalism which is premised on inclusion, pluralism and religious neutrality.

How else are they going to achieve this when they know very well Christianity trumps any type of normal government control by having a superior unitary and rational foundation on which traditional customs and moral rules of society are based and followed by the majority of the population.

Edited February 23, 2008 by Leafless

Drea · February 23, 2008

And why is that?
You know that the Libs especially MUST protect extreme Liberalism which is premised on inclusion, pluralism and religious neutrality.

How else are they going to achieve this when they know very well Christianity trumps any type of normal government control by having a superior unitary and rational foundation on which traditional customs and moral rules of society are based and followed by the majority of the population.

You might wanna clarify which "sect" of Christianity corners the market on morals...

Sects of Christianity

Which one of these is the "right" one -- the "one true path" to "god"?

Leafless · February 23, 2008

You might wanna clarify which "sect" of Christianity corners the market on morals...

I really don't know and don't really care as what matters are the primary religions Canada evolved on, greatly contributing to what Canada is to-day.

It is common knowledge religious traditions, morals, certain laws are derived from Christianity.

Relating to Canada the Catholic and Protestant religions vastly out number all others and are the primary DENOMINATIONS the country was built on and accounts for 21,591,755 followers.

The other other nine religions in Canada total 3,147,180.

Canadians with no religious affiliation total 4,900,090.

http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/demo30b.htm

Which one of these is the "right" one -- the "one true path" to "god"?

Does it matter?

A persons faith is their private business.

Drea · February 24, 2008

A persons faith is their private business.

Christianity trumps any type of normal government

Which is it Leafless?

Religion should not be the business of government. It is a private matter between the believer and his/her particular belief. These beliefs have nothing to do with the laws of society which should remain secular regardless of the "faith" of the population.

Shady · February 24, 2008

I found the list quite funny. It's basically the stereotypes that atheists and agnostics have of religious people. What was also funny about it, was the mention of the denying existence, or the laughing or mocking of religious beliefs. In otherwords, the behavior of atheists and agnostics on a regular basis. Also the part about them having a much deeper knowledge of the Bible was pretty funny too.

Leafless · February 24, 2008

Which is it Leafless?
Religion should not be the business of government. It is a private matter between the believer and his/her particular belief. These beliefs have nothing to do with the laws of society which should remain secular regardless of the "faith" of the population.

Go and run for office in the U.S. as an atheist and see what happens to you.

United States
In the United States, there is widespread disapproval of atheists. For example, according to motherjones.com, 52% of Americans claim they would not vote for a well-qualified atheist for president.[9] More recently a 2007 Gallup poll produced nearly identical results.[10] A 2006 study at the University of Minnesota showed atheists to be the most mistrusted minority among Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists

Oleg Bach · February 24, 2008

Go and run for office in the U.S. as an atheist and see what happens to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists

There are no top ten signs your a fundamentalist Christian - there is only one sign - that would be to you really understand and grasp the cosmic principles of logic that is contained in the doctrine - that's it! - Fundies can be identified easily - in the one single fact that they do NOT understand Christianity and just make things up as they go along - I would safely say that Christ would drop kick the average fundie into hell....and I just love this term - not anti-christ but anti-christism - all fundies and most mainstream chruches do the exact opposite to what the Christ suggested - which makes them all anti-christist.....funny - they are all waiting for the anti-christ to arrive - it's like waiting for yourself....ironic!

Rue · February 25, 2008

There are no top ten signs your a fundamentalist Christian - there is only one sign - that would be to you really understand and grasp the cosmic principles of logic that is contained in the doctrine - that's it! - Fundies can be identified easily - in the one single fact that they do NOT understand Christianity and just make things up as they go along - I would safely say that Christ would drop kick the average fundie into hell....and I just love this term - not anti-christ but anti-christism - all fundies and most mainstream chruches do the exact opposite to what the Christ suggested - which makes them all anti-christist.....funny - they are all waiting for the anti-christ to arrive - it's like waiting for yourself....ironic!

Bang on. Guess we are both anti-anti christists which to them means we are anti-Christs but I am not anti-Christ. Never met the man. Probably would have given him a hard time with the walking on water shtik pointing to the rocks just below the surface but other then that I probably would have gotten a long just fine with him and his wife Mary M. But I wash my own feet thank you.

Hydraboss · February 27, 2008

Rue, you may qualify to be a saint.

Your three miracles:

Walked under water

Cured a ham

Made a blind man deaf

You should look into this further (I hear the sainthood 401k is to die for).

Rue · March 1, 2008

Rue, you may qualify to be a saint.
Your three miracles:

Walked under water

Cured a ham

Made a blind man deaf

You should look into this further (I hear the sainthood 401k is to die for).

Hah! I am a stain not a saint, just move the t in the word.. All kidding aside I love the guy's philosophy just not the idiot old men who proceeded him and rewrote it to suit their own idiot political needs.

I just find most religions get taken over by men who don't wash or shave and are always angry about something and usually have a problem with orgasms.

I think a Saint should look like Messlia Auf Der Maur the bass guitarist. Bonny Raitt would work. Either that or Lauryn Hill but with dreadlocks.

Edited March 1, 2008 by Rue

jbg · March 2, 2008

I am not a Christian, fundamentalist or otherwise, but I'll take a stab at a few of these.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

There is a difference between slaughters that G-d ordered, on an episodic basis, to the ongoing prospective slaughters seemingly countenanced by Islam.

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

Here we agree, to an extent. I find the Mariolatrist view of the Immaculate Conception to be almost risible.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

Many now believe that Jews are the Chosen People. That is not consistent with believing they face a future in hell.

BubberMiley · March 2, 2008

Go and run for office in the U.S. as an atheist and see what happens to you.

THe U.S. also has a constitution that separates church and state. Anyone who would call for the church to control government would be considered anti-American.

maldon_road · March 2, 2008

Many now believe that Jews are the Chosen People. That is not consistent with believing they face a future in hell.

"There goes your Semite, Hugh. Different God, different mountain top".

from "Chariots of Fire".

jbg · March 2, 2008

THe U.S. also has a constitution that separates church and state. Anyone who would call for the church to control government would be considered anti-American.

Actually, our Constitution says nothing about "separating Church and State". It prohibits the government "establishment" of a religion and from proscribing the free exercise of religion. That is a huge difference.

BubberMiley · March 3, 2008

Actually, our Constitution says nothing about "separating Church and State". It prohibits the government "establishment" of a religion and from proscribing the free exercise of religion. That is a huge difference.

Jefferson coined the phrase "separation of church and state," and I think the First Amendment captures that concept in the passage you refer to: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…".

How is it a huge difference?

Edited March 3, 2008 by BubberMiley

jbg · March 3, 2008

Jefferson coined the phrase "separation of church and state," and I think the First Amendment captures that concept in the passage you refer to: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…".
How is it a huge difference?

The First Amendment does not ban the use of the G-d on currency, the display of the Ten Commandments in courthouses nor other symbolic displays of religion in public life.

BubberMiley · March 3, 2008

The First Amendment does not ban the use of the G-d on currency, the display of the Ten Commandments in courthouses nor other symbolic displays of religion in public life.

That's a matter of interpretation and a lengthy argument. Some would say it certainly does.

bush_cheney2004 · March 3, 2008

Jefferson coined the phrase "separation of church and state," and I think the First Amendment captures that concept in the passage you refer to: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…".
How is it a huge difference?

Jefferson wrote of "building a wall of separation between church and state" in 1802, long after the First Amendment existed.

jbg · March 3, 2008

That's a matter of interpretation and a lengthy argument. Some would say it certainly does.

I respectfully disagree with you on that. Every morning, in school we used to say:

I pledge allegiance, to the flag,

Of the United States of America,

And to this Republic, for which it stands,

One Nation, under G-d, indivisible,

With liberty and justice for all.

BubberMiley · March 3, 2008

I respectfully disagree with you on that. Every morning, in school we used to say:
I pledge allegiance, to the flag,

Of the United States of America,

And to this Republic, for which it stands,

One Nation, under G-d, indivisible,

With liberty and justice for all.

There is a also a huge distinction between saying "In God we trust" and "In Christ we trust." One could easily interpret the concept of "God" as the creator in whatever form it is, and that is clearly distinct from religion and the church. Although many believe that excludes atheists.

maldon_road · March 3, 2008

There is a also a huge distinction between saying "In God we trust" and "In Christ we trust." One could easily interpret the concept of "God" as the creator in whatever form it is, and that is clearly distinct from religion and the church. Although many believe that excludes atheists.

And that is why the "Lord's Prayer" is considered so innocuous, religiously speaking. Its concept of God is generic.

Edited March 3, 2008 by maldon_road

charter.rights · March 7, 2008

The Lord's Prayer is a Christian act. It was delivered to the people by Jesus at the Sermon on the Mount and forms the basis of Christian affirmation. It is not "innocuous."

maldon_road · March 7, 2008

The Lord's Prayer is a Christian act. It was delivered to the people by Jesus at the Sermon on the Mount and forms the basis of Christian affirmation. It is not "innocuous."

Its reference is to the Lord - a generic term.

Leafless · March 7, 2008

Its reference is to the Lord - a generic term.

How wrong you are.

If there is anything Christian it is the Lord's Prayer also known as the Our Father or Pater noster.

The Lord's Prayer,[1] also known as the Our Father or Pater noster is probably the best-known prayer in Christianity. On Easter Sunday 2007 it was estimated that 2 billion Protestant, Catholic, and Eastern Orthodox Christians read, recited, or sang the short prayer in hundreds of languages in houses of worship of all shapes and sizes.[2] Although many theological differences and various modes and manners of worship divide Christians, according to Fuller Seminary professor Clayton Schmit "there is a sense of solidarity in knowing that Christians around the globe are praying together…, and these words always unite us."[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Prayer

Have you never heard of Sister Janet Mead singing the Lord's Prayer, a popular hit in the 70's.

http://www.hardrushmusic.com/sister_janet_mead.html