noahbody Posted November 29, 2007 Report Posted November 29, 2007 A British schoolteacher has been arrested in Sudan accused of insulting Islam's Prophet, after she allowed her pupils to name a teddy bear Muhammad.Colleagues of Gillian Gibbons, 54, from Liverpool, said she made an "innocent mistake" by letting the six and seven-year-olds choose the name. Ms Gibbons was arrested after several parents made complaints. The BBC has learned the charge could lead to six months in jail, 40 lashes or a fine. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7112929.stm Crazy rings a bell. Quote
AngusThermopyle Posted November 29, 2007 Report Posted November 29, 2007 Yeah, I heard about this on the news last night. It wasn't even her suggestion to name the teddy bear, she let her students decide instead. Good way to drive off educators and keep the populace ignorant though. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
capricorn Posted November 29, 2007 Report Posted November 29, 2007 The teacher was sentenced to 15 days in jail and then deportation to the UK. No lashes so far so I suppose the Sudanese government can claim the sentence was "soft". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7119399.stm I just hope she stays safe while in custody. This will be the longest 15 days of her life. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Higgly Posted November 29, 2007 Report Posted November 29, 2007 A BBC commentator said he thought it was the Sudanese government slapping the west on the wrist for its recent sanctions and what not. I guess they couldn't find an American to stone to death. The piece included a brief interview with the Sudanese Ambassador who smirked as he said that the government could not interfere in the process of law. There was also a British Moslem cleric who expressed horror at the whole thing. If anything happens to her in confinement, I imagine the Sudanese will be very sorry. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
Borg Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 Sharia law in the finest form. Borg Quote
White Doors Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 Now the mobs are calling for her to be executed... http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2007/11/30/4697763-ap.html unreal. the Mosques work them up into a frothing rage. This religion has been hijacked by fundies, no question about that. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Drea Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 she made an "innocent mistake" by letting the six and seven-year-olds choose the name. Shouldn't these children know better by this age? After all their indoctrination since birth, they should know not to name a teddy bear after the sacred prophet! /sarcasm Stupid people, stupid religion. We should all make cute stuffed effigies of "Mohammed" and drop them from airplanes all over the middle east. We could make it laugh like tickle me Elmo Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
GostHacked Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 Shouldn't these children know better by this age? After all their indoctrination since birth, they should know not to name a teddy bear after the sacred prophet! No need for sarcasm here at all. Your question is totally valid, and those children should know better since they are grown up in the Muslim religion. The children should have been horrified. I say all those kids are just as guilty and should be punishable by Sharia Law. Yes I am going to get flack from this, but it would be hypocritical of the Sudanese government to punish the Infidel, and not the children for slandering that Mohamed prophet guy. But like all religions, the powers that be play favorites. Quote
Drea Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 Maybe, just maybe these kids are not as "indoctrinated" as we are led to believe. You are correct Gost, if they had been raised as staunch muslims they would have been horrified at the prospect of "seeing" their prophet. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
AngusThermopyle Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 Truly a sick bunch of people. Hey, where are all the moderates who should be marching in Sudan protesting this womans treatment, after all aren't the moderates the vast majority as I'm always being told? Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
M.Dancer Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 Truly a sick bunch of people. Hey, where are all the moderates who should be marching in Sudan protesting this womans treatment, after all aren't the moderates the vast majority as I'm always being told? If you were a moderate, would you stay in the Sudan? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
White Doors Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 No need for sarcasm here at all. Your question is totally valid, and those children should know better since they are grown up in the Muslim religion. The children should have been horrified. I say all those kids are just as guilty and should be punishable by Sharia Law. Yes I am going to get flack from this, but it would be hypocritical of the Sudanese government to punish the Infidel, and not the children for slandering that Mohamed prophet guy. But like all religions, the powers that be play favorites. If you knew anything about the religion, you would know that the position of the Sudanese government is alot of things, but hypocritical it is not. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Wilber Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 I wonder if this world can wait or survive until this mob drags itself out of the Middle Ages. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Riverwind Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 No need for sarcasm here at all. Your question is totally valid, and those children should know better since they are grown up in the Muslim religion. The children should have been horrified.I suspect the 'offence' is not nearly as serious as the Sudan government complains and that they are simply using the teacher to score cheap political points. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
ScottSA Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 I hope the TO police have enough police on hand to watch over the angry protests by Muslim moderates at this kind of treatment of a fellow westerner. After all, Islam is a religion of peace, not oppression, right? Quote
jawapunk Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 I'm pretty sure she did not suggest the name for the bear but the class did. She simply ok'd the name. So the kids should definitely haev known better and it is plain dumb ignorance on her part, however perhaps she should have known better as she was living and working in a strict muslim society. Quote Leg room, there is none.
AngusThermopyle Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 perhaps she should have known better I would say that anyone who goes to such a place without a sizeable and well armed force backing them up should know better. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
capricorn Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 I'm pretty sure she did not suggest the name for the bear but the class did. I wonder how many kids in her class or in the school are named Mohamed. Don't many Muslim families name their kids Mohamed? There's nothing kids like more than hearing the sound of their own name, except of course if they're being reprimanded. So it would not be surprising that the kids picked the name and the teacher accepted simply to please the kids to facilitate her lessons. I hope she is safe and away from those calling for her head. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
jawapunk Posted November 30, 2007 Report Posted November 30, 2007 I find it odd they are calling for her head now too. The law in place has some room as far as sentencing goes, it is a fine and a jail sentence or 40 lashes. If a Sudanese national had committed this crime, I am fairly sure they would not put them to death. This is as many have stated, peoples Imam's spouting hatred and creating a bigger international spectacle than it was. It was a god damned teddy bear after all. I am sure this woman will be kept safe and those that have the responsibility to do so and have sentenced her will not behead someone for such a petty reason. There is no precedent for beheading here, the law was already in place, this is just extremists blowing themselves up. Quote Leg room, there is none.
DogOnPorch Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 Where's Lord Kitchener when you need him? ----------------------------------------- If you tell the truth, you have infinite power supporting you; but if not, you have infinite power against you. ---General Charles 'Chinese' Gordon Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jefferiah Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) I'm pretty sure she did not suggest the name for the bear but the class did. She simply ok'd the name. So the kids should definitely haev known better and it is plain dumb ignorance on her part, however perhaps she should have known better as she was living and working in a strict muslim society. I don't blame the teacher of course. But neither do I blame those children. I don't think they should have known better. I don't think I would have known better. Mohammed may be the name of a so-called prophet but its also a popular Islamic name and it would seem completely natural to me for the children to name the bear Mohammed. It's a very popular name in Britain. You don't usually see a great deal of outrage over people naming their children Mohammed. And although children are not teddy bears, I don't think anyone could say that a Teddy Bear has much of a negative connotation. Nope, this smacks of a people who are deliberately looking for any ridiculous reason to demand the execution of a westerner. Edited December 1, 2007 by jefferiah Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
raz395 Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 Would anyone care if someone named a teddy bear "Jesus the Pooh"? Quote
jefferiah Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 Would anyone care if someone named a teddy bear "Jesus the Pooh"? Well there are probably some nuts who would care, but I don't think you'd see anyone arrested or any great demand for an execution. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
jbg Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 Good way to drive off educators and keep the populace ignorant though.No wonder this part of the world is plagued by illiteracy and ignorance.Is this incident pure democracy, i.e. direct rule by the people, pure savagery, or the results of Zionism depriving these people of any hope? (vote here) Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
no queenslave Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 No wonder this part of the world is plagued by illiteracy and ignorance.Is this incident pure democracy, i.e. direct rule by the people, pure savagery, or the results of Zionism depriving these people of any hope? (vote here) And if i named my pet pig moses nobody would complain. at least he got more brains than a teddy bear . Quote
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