Conservative attack ads

[waldo]

CBC is a Liberal politically correct organization which protects Liberal ideologies.

What is a "Liberal" ideology "protected" by the CBC?

Imaginary or visionary theorization.

I see. So, then, according to you, nobody other than those in the Liberal Party has imagination or vision. Interesting...

Liberals: imaginative visionary // Conservatives: mundane conventionalist

[Leafless]

I see. So, then, according to you, nobody other than those in the Liberal Party has imagination or vision. Interesting...

The quest for Canada has always been between Liberal/Quebec and Conservative/ROC.

The illusionist Liberals have created a place for minority Quebec basically out of thin air both in and out of Quebec.

Quebec interest now controls important parts of Canada by way of a Liberal controlled socialist media, politically correct socialist CBC, corrupt socialist cultural policies that now run, control or manipulate, for example, Ottawa hospitals, Ottawa municipal bilingual policy, basis for Ottawa jobs relating to bilingualism including the federal public service, the movement of federal entities to Quebec, and has the province of Ontario delivering 215 French services.

[Smallc]

The quest for Canada has always been between Liberal/Quebec and Conservative/ROC.

Oh you are so full of it. Most of Canada is liberal in social values and slightly conservative in fiscal values (in that they don't like to spend more than they have). You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Oleg Bach]

Oh you are so full of it. Most of Canada is liberal in social values and slightly conservative in fiscal values (in that they don't like to spend more than they have). You have no idea what you're talking about.

Canada is quietly conservative - and we just pretend to be liberally minded so we don't get persecuted.

[g_bambino]

The quest for Canada has always been between Liberal/Quebec and Conservative/ROC.

Absolutely irrelevant. By your own earlier words, you feel that only those in the Liberal Party have imagination and vision. You also advocate fascist communication techniques. Another insight into the frightening mind of Leafless.

[Leafless]

Absolutely irrelevant. By your own earlier words, you feel that only those in the Liberal Party have imagination and vision.

What I said was 'Imaginary or visionary theorization'.

Imaginary=Not based on fact; unreal

visionary= Not practical or realizable; speculative

Are these not the fantasies the Liberals utilized to shape or influence and control Canadian society?

[Leafless]

Canada is quietly conservative - and we just pretend to be liberally minded so we don't get persecuted.

Yes, those Liberal fascist can be mean spirited and vicious.

[Leafless]

Oh you are so full of it. Most of Canada is liberal in social values and slightly conservative in fiscal values (in that they don't like to spend more than they have). You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yes, I know all about Liberal socialist fascism.

And so do the Conservatives who are trapped in the Liberal fascist web.

[g_bambino]

What I said was 'Imaginary or visionary theorization'.

I know what you said.

Liberals: imaginative visionary // Conservatives: mundane conventionalist

Others do too, it seems.

[Leafless]

I know what you said.

Others do too, it seems.

Then it looks like we agree that nothing short of a revolution is the only remedy to Canada's political impasse.

[g_bambino]

Then it looks like we agree that nothing short of a revolution is the only remedy to Canada's political impasse.

I said I know what you said, not that I agree with it. Hell, I don't even think your second claim makes sense or is in any way based in reality. And your first - who wants The Democratic People's Broadcaster pumping out government propaganda? No thanks.

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Edited June 7, 2009 by g_bambino

[Leafless]

And your first - who wants The Democratic People's Broadcaster pumping out government propaganda? No thanks.

What is wrong with wide spread discussion and debate?

So what exactly are you saying, that you prefer a totalitarian state?

[g_bambino]

What is wrong with wide spread discussion and debate?

Absolutely nothing, in my opinion. What I don't know, however, is why you dislike it and would rather have our state broadcaster be a mouthpiece for government propaganda.

[Leafless]

Absolutely nothing, in my opinion. What I don't know, however, is why you dislike it and would rather have our state broadcaster be a mouthpiece for government propaganda.

I detest the CBC as a state broadcaster being a mouthpiece for Liberal social fascist.

The Conservatives are NOT a fascist government.

It is totally vice versa.

As a matter of fact the Conservatives have never been able to counter the left's visionary policies with equally powerful ideas consistent with individual initiative and voluntary associations.

Liberal socialist fascism has destroyed Canada's White English speaking culture that was freely created with civil liberties, individual initiatives and voluntary associations.

[g_bambino]

I detest the CBC as a state broadcaster being a mouthpiece for Liberal social fascist.

In case you didn't notice, Leafless, the present government is a Conservative one. You want the CBC to air Conservative attack ads. That means you want the CBC to be the state mouthpiece for government propaganda. That is facist. Ergo, you support fascism. Easy-peasy.

[Leafless]

In case you didn't notice, Leafless, the present government is a Conservative one. You want the CBC to air Conservative attack ads.

Absolutely!

Politics has always been about one political party lashing out against the another.

That is the nature of politics.

The Liberals in the past did lash out at the Conservatives utilizing a series of (attack) ads:

A barrage of new Liberal attack ads take direct aim at Conservative Leader Stephen Harper.

A dozen 30-second advertisements intended for television were posted on the Liberal website Tuesday afternoon, with every ad clearly targeting the Tory leader's policies.

One of the ads however, suggesting Harper would put military personnel in Canadian cities, was later pulled, with the Liberal Party saying the ad had been circulated in error.

The commercials are some of the most negative yet, suggesting Harper is anti-Atlantic Canada, hides an agenda similar to former Ontario premier Mike Harris and that his rise to leadership was bankrolled by rich American right-wingers.

The new ads each feature unflattering close-ups of Harper's face, are accompanied by war-like drumming, and end with the newly-minted Liberal campaign slogan, "Choose Your Canada."

A female announcer challenges his credibility in a number of areas. Perhaps the most far-flung of the ads suggests conservative U.S. donors played a key role in Harper's career.

The ads also:

Attack Harper's comments to an American think-tank in Montreal when he called the U.S. a light and inspiration to Canadians and the world;

Claim Harper will either have to raise taxes or run a deficit to pay for his campaign promises;

Claim Harper and Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe have a close relationship that will not benefit national unity;

Claim that Harper once said Liberal ridings in the west of Canada are either dominated by recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada;

Report comments Harper made to an American audience, advising them not to feel bad for Canada's unemployed, who receive "generous social assistance and unemployment assistance," and that Canada is content to become a second-tier social country;

Quote a U.S. newspaper editorial that described Harper as the most pro-U.S. leader in the western world.

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That means you want the CBC to be the state mouthpiece for government propaganda. That is facist. Ergo, you support fascism. Easy-peasy.

With political commercials set aside, CBC has always been a mouthpiece for socialist government propaganda.

Now that is fascism.

Lashing out at other political parties by way of political ads is simply a part of politics and has nothing to do with fascism.

Edited June 8, 2009 by Leafless

[g_bambino]

With political commercials set aside, CBC has always been a mouthpiece for socialist government propaganda.

Yes, you've made it clear that you think so. You've also made it clear - but now appear to be attempting a back-peddle - that you're upset the CBC is a socialist government propaganda mouthpiece rather than a neo-conservative government propaganda mouthpiece. This all ultimately means that a) you somehow believe the CBC to be presently dormant, and you supoprt fascism, as long as it's your brand of it.

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Edited June 9, 2009 by g_bambino

[Leafless]

Yes, you've made it clear that you think so. You've also made it clear - but now appear to be attempting a back-peddle - that you're upset the CBC is a socialist government propaganda mouthpiece rather than a neo-conservative government propaganda mouthpiece.

Who is upset and who is back-peddling?

The CBC is paid for by ALL taxpayers in Canada and the CBC's job is to report (read) the news rather than customize it for a socialist audience.

This all ultimately means that a) you somehow believe the CBC to be presently dormant,

I do not.

The CBC is a (Liberal) socialist broadcaster (news and associated political programing) and and I resent that because it should be a politically NEUTRAL, non-biased broadcaster.

Airing paid political advertising relating to national political parties has nothing to do with fascism.

Other television broadcasters support paid political advertising. The CBC can do the same either for the Conservatives or the Liberals.

and you supoprt fascism, as long as it's your brand of it.

The only national political party that supports fascism and who have implemented fascist policies are the federal Liberals.

[waldo]

The CBC is a (Liberal) socialist broadcaster (news and associated political programing) and and I resent that because it should be a politically NEUTRAL, non-biased broadcaster.

outside of a recognized election campaign cycle, what could be more politically NEUTRAL than for the CBC to apply a stated advertising policy equitably as affects all recognized political parties? No single party is being favoured by the CBC advertising policy... just because it's a policy that doesn't align with your stated objections, that doesn't allow you to call into question the established neutrality of the CBC.

[Dave_ON]

The CBC is a (Liberal) socialist broadcaster (news and associated political programing) and and I resent that because it should be a politically NEUTRAL, non-biased broadcaster.

The only national political party that supports fascism and who have implemented fascist policies are the federal Liberals.

So which are they? Are the Socialist or are the Facist? They can't be both the two are mutually exclusive by definition. Socialism on the extreme left of the political scale and Facism on the extreme right.

[Oleg Bach]

So which are they? Are the Socialist or are the Facist? They can't be both the two are mutually exclusive by definition. Socialism on the extreme left of the political scale and Facism on the extreme right.

Socialism is Facism - a kind of new capitalism cloaked in clever phoney benevolence - what do you call a super lefty that lives in fine condo and has a horse in the country? Why a captiatlist pretending to be a socialist - which = facist....do you think the elite in old Germany who promoted national socialism (Nazi) - went without their luxury? Not very likely!

[Oleg Bach]

So which are they? Are the Socialist or are the Facist? They can't be both the two are mutually exclusive by definition. Socialism on the extreme left of the political scale and Facism on the extreme right.

Socialism is Facism - a kind of new capitalism cloaked in clever phoney benevolence - what do you call a super lefty that lives in fine condo and has a horse in the country? Why a captiatlist pretending to be a socialist - which = facist....do you think the elite in old Germany who promoted national socialism (Nazi) - went without their luxury? Not very likely!

[g_bambino]

I do not.

Oh, but Leafless, you do.

You think the CBC is run by the Liberal government. But, as you've acknowledged, there is no Liberal government. With no Liberal government to run the CBC, you must therefore believe the CBC to be dormant.

You complain that the CBC is a propaganda distributor for Liberal governments. You complain that the CBC won't be a propaganda distributor for a Conservative government. State broadcasters airing government propaganda is the domain of fascist states. Ergo, you support the use of fascist tactics so long as it is by a Conservative government.

It's rather amazing, but not surprising, that your own thinking baffles you.

[g_bambino]

No single party is being favoured by the CBC advertising policy... just because it's a policy that doesn't align with your stated objections, that doesn't allow you to call into question the established neutrality of the CBC.

That's already been explained to Leafless a few times, but, unfortunately, it still fails to register with him.

[Leafless]

outside of a recognized election campaign cycle, what could be more politically NEUTRAL than for the CBC to apply a stated advertising policy equitably as affects all recognized political parties? No single party is being favoured by the CBC advertising policy... just because it's a policy that doesn't align with your stated objections, that doesn't allow you to call into question the established neutrality of the CBC.

The CBC policy relating to a supposed neutral political advertising policy only proves that because of the existence of such a self imposed rule makes it a fascist organization.

CORRECTION.......a LEFT-WING fascist Liberal organization.