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If the Muslims had come out clearly and unequivocally against the 911 attacks and similar attacks throughout the world, without mumbling about opposing "all kinds of terror, including Zionism", people would feel different. If the Muslim community were exposing wrongdoers, rather than setting up "charities" that funnel money to Hamas, same story.

Either they are for or us against us. If they live among us, they must be for us or, as some Australian leader said, "clear out".

If it's us or them, I choose us.

all usual BS aside...................

I'll repeat:

The truth is this would not have even been posted here, had the bus driver been wearing a toque and scarf on a chilly morning.

Just the simple truth

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Most Muslim nations expressed support, Iraq and the Palestinians being the exception.
With qualifications and equivocations, yes.
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With qualifications and equivocations, yes.

Maybe weeks or months later, but initially it was unreserved sympathy.

RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS

If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us

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If the Muslims had come out clearly and unequivocally against the 911 attacks and similar attacks throughout the world, without mumbling about opposing "all kinds of terror, including Zionism", people would feel different. If the Muslim community were exposing wrongdoers, rather than setting up "charities" that funnel money to Hamas, same story.

It was the Moslem community who turned in the guys who were going to bomb the CN Tower.

"We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).

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It was the Moslem community who turned in the guys who were going to bomb the CN Tower.

Hardly the community...it was a single man: Mubin Shaikh. The same fellow who wanted Sharia Law/Courts introduced in Ontario. The same fellow that said the Taliban weren't all that bad. The same fellow that is up on charges for assaulting two 12 year old girls and his own aunt. The same man that wanted $300,000 from the RCMP for his role in handing over the Canadian terror suspects. Hey...why not? He blames his cocaine habit on CSIS. We should help the poor guy out.

Edit: there was a second paid informer as well: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/10/13/second-person.html

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The accused are innocent until proven guilty, but if they are proven guilty after given due process then this is a wakeup call, especially for Muslim leaders.

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Hardly the community...it was a single man: Mubin Shaikh. The same fellow who wanted Sharia Law/Courts introduced in Ontario. The same fellow that said the Taliban weren't all that bad. The same fellow that is up on charges for assaulting two 12 year old girls and his own aunt. The same man that wanted $300,000 from the RCMP for his role in handing over the Canadian terror suspects. Hey...why not? He blames his cocaine habit on CSIS. We should help the poor guy out.

Edit: there was a second paid informer as well: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/10/13/second-person.html

Yes and so? Do you mean to say, therefore the muslim community is behind the terrorists? Again, making sweeping generalizations about large group[s of people living in every country of the world, is foolish.

Note from the article too- ""He really felt, as a loyal Muslim Canadian, like he owed Canada something, to give back to it," said a close friend and former business associate who, for security reasons, can't be named. "And it's not surprising to see that he did that for the cause of Canada."

So it proves there are indeed muslims out there who don't want to bomb your house, Dog.

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Hardly the community...it was a single man: Mubin Shaikh. The same fellow who wanted Sharia Law/Courts introduced in Ontario. The same fellow that said the Taliban weren't all that bad. The same fellow that is up on charges for assaulting two 12 year old girls and his own aunt. The same man that wanted $300,000 from the RCMP for his role in handing over the Canadian terror suspects. Hey...why not? He blames his cocaine habit on CSIS. We should help the poor guy out.

Edit: there was a second paid informer as well: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/10/13/second-person.html

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The accused are innocent until proven guilty, but if they are proven guilty after given due process then this is a wakeup call, especially for Muslim leaders.

---Husain Patel, the Canadian Council of Muslim Theologians

Did you see the CBC special where he was interviewed? He's freaking insane, the Muslim community is terrified of him. He preaches moderation, I don't think so. He's run moderate Muslims out of business and he screams into the camera I speak for all Muslims. Meanwhile a true moderate is in hiding because his business was distroyed and he was threatened with death threats-he taped the threats. Did CSIS do a voice comparision of the voice on the tape? Nope but it sound alot like that mad convert. Their secret weapon on terror is an evil tastard that needs to be placed in jail for the good of the Muslim Community.

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Yes and so? Do you mean to say, therefore the muslim community is behind the terrorists? Again, making sweeping generalizations about large group[s of people living in every country of the world, is foolish.

Do you mean to say? Higgly says the community...I say it's one or two guys...you make 'sweeping statements' about what that all means. If you want to support a criminal, by all means. Don't let me stop you.

So it proves there are indeed muslims out there who don't want to bomb your house, Dog.

Straw Man...nowhere did I mention Muslims blowing me up nor did I state I'm in fear of Muslims doing so. But nice try.

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