Talby

Because Trump, if nothing else, is a genius at marketing. He deserves credit for that. He is Don Draper sans everything else 'unmarketing' that makes Don Draper cool character. He understands his target market, average americans. He embodies American culture: Tacky, garish, nouveau rich, loud, unsophisticated and celebrity. He is the American definition of success. I feel sorry for all the Americans that get "it" (there are many). I think they are embarrassed they have the orange gnome trying to sell the world a used car, as they know they will be viewed as a nation of dim wits. To find Barry cool you need to have a to have an attention span greater than that of a kitten and grade 8 vocabulary-too complicated for many.

The shale oil in the US can't be used quick enough even in a booming economy, so they need to interrupt the supply. Plus Trump is trying to parrot Regan. Meaning he wants to hand out contracts to the defense industry-already hinting at more nukes. The usual GOP "eat the poor," trickle down BS. Therefore: Demonize a oil supplying country or region or people (hence the vetting) Wait for any terrorist attack and then use 'alt facts" to connect it to the demonized subject nation to gain political support from anyone who can say "America first" and owns a foam hat. Embargo and/or bomb country or region. Iran is the likely target based on the rhetoric. Pooty will be chuft, oil/gas will be up, and Iran will ripe for helping hand from mother Russia. Good times!

I have no direct evidence only circumstantial evidence. I base the assertion on two facts: Most of the IS guys aren't foreign to the region, they are locals from Iraq, Syria and the places nearby. Nearby being anywhere people normally where sandals to work. and Guys from those areas, in general, are by our standards are broke. Most people +- 1000 km from the equator, whether the middle east or Panama, are broke , but around there prolly pretty poor This is true in non conflict zones, this is a conflict zone, so they are broke®. IS is framed in the Western world view as an organization driven by "ideals" in this case radical Islam. Ideals are a luxury, like electricity is a luxury, and a sewer system is a luxury. Things we take for granted. In my experience uneducated broke people don't have time to argue politics, assuming they understood them, they are too busy looking for their next meal. This is true for IS fighters or can collectors pushing a shopping cart in downtown Toronto. Most of them don't know where Iraq is on a map, and most probably wouldn't understand a "map" anyway. To us its a grade 3 concept, we learn in a centrally heated building before or after something we call "lunch." They don't understand national borders, nor can they read the words printed on a sign at the border. They do know how to load and fire an RPG, sharpen a knife, fix a car engine with broken tea spoon, butcher and cook anything that moves and many can live in austere conditions in a desert environment. Those are the types of skills skills IS soldiers have, and who they likely are. They aren't Iraqis, they aren't Syrians, although we would call them that, they are regional version of the Hatfields, and the McCoys who after a "meetin, mended their ways cuz the the smart man told them the koran said so, and they get $50/week to take home to help feed the clan" Long range planning like a "caliphate" isn't something people like this give a sh*t about, they are in it for the immediate benefits, not the IS RRSP and pension plans. This seems to be missed in the analysis...in the media. The media gives the impression that they are 'mostly' psychotic, and overstate the westerners in their ranks. Generally people +-1000 km from the equator have a different view of life/death than us. They grew up in places where people die young, if not from bullets & bombs, then malnutrition, child birth, disease, starvation, murder, etc. Consequently the right to 'life,' and empathy is mildly diminished and being a mean f*cker comes that much easier. Again this isn't so much an Islamist thing, although fundamentalist wing nuts can capitalize on it hence the broad brutality. Not unlike how Pol Pot did with illiterate uneducated Cambodian farm kids in 70's demonizing anything "not us" I'd guess that 50%-90% of IS fit the description I have given, the rest are starring in videos, managing the unwashed troops and a few are secretly wishing they'd never boarded a plane to fight the "jihad" Although there are perhaps just as many who still think it's a good thing, and are waiting for the day they can be the big man. But its the 50-90% that are the worker bees, and if they go on strike, switch sides, the whole IS caliphate thing is as likely as a nation state with Donald Trump as the King within central London.

Trudeau Mk II doesn't have the presence as Trudeau Mk I. He knows it and he forces it out and he comes across as disingenuous. Yes, this is a highly subjective superficial analysis....but it is that type of inane superficial BS that wins elections. However, in the same vein he will just beat Sneaky Steve. Only because Sneaky Steve has less presence. His only positive feature is Helmet Hair. Forced Trudeau Presence > Helmet Hair Which is a shame because I'm beginning to like Sneaky Steve, mainly because he is sneaky....and Helmet Hair-it didn't move during his "Titanic" photo op....that's almost worth a vote.

The sunni vs shia thing is reminiscent of the catholic vs protestant thing. "follow the shoe!" The only difference is 500 years and "christians" used to burn each other (mostly) and toss the odd person out of a window as opposed to the hacky hacky choppy choppy these guys like. Comes with territory I suspect....no wood! But if they had wood, I'd bet they'd build windows just to toss people out off. IS on the other hand is not dissimilar to Pol Pot's army of displaced kids indoctrinated and trained to hate, torture and kill. Unlike Pol Pot's crew though some of these guys are educated and have(had) a life. Which leads to me believe they aren't all what they are cooked up to be. I have trouble imaging a ex Brit, no matter how radical, or from what ethnic background, who isn't wishing he was at home watching Dr Who instead of stuck on guard duty picking sand boogers out of his nose for entertainment. Or alternately an american who isn't dreaming of some super sized processed drive through thingy with extra possessed cheese as he cuts into a big slice of goat pie for the 6th time in 7 days. The 'guy' we see on TV, isn't IS. He is the image they are marketing. The rank and file undoubtedly have a marginally greater proportion of psychotards but I suspect they have an equal or greater portion of dudes who despite their religious bent aren't as weird as they would like us to think, or our chicken little western media will latch onto and report. The bulk of them, are probably hired hands, simply out to make a buck, and will when the money is there (or not) switch teams....as long as the money is there. That is what keeps them going, not idealism. WRT to the few, who are seriously f*cked up psychos, who have cash, are quasi organized and get off on the attention being nutbar attracts, they are a problem. That's why the "west" needs to "repatriate" the ones they can to identify and locate the management, or alternatively send IS some new recruits

What if they got what they wanted, an Islamic State. They being the dudes who have otherwise been running about in Toyota Land Cruisers, intimidating, killing, enforcing rules, etc. They get their chunk of land, with extra mosques, free burkas, effigies of american guys to burn when they get angry, everything a radical Muslim nutter could ever hope for. Who is going to run the power station, manage food distribution, create water and sewage systems, etc? Many of them spent their lives banging their head off a Koran, in between chopping off heads and beating people up, what happens when they've chopped off all the heads who, for example....ran that power those plant thingies? Who is actually going to do all that stuff that doesn't involve killing, intimidating, and enforcing rules? All the smart ones are either dead or have f*cked off at the site of these assholes! "hey anyone know how to turn this on?" "no, man I'm a suicide bomber...and Akmed, he's a sniper....maybe ask, Ishmal....he electrocuted someone once he might know" And the good bit is, some of them are probably family guys. Yeh they chop off heads from 9-5, but at the end of the day, they have to bring home the halal bacon, and the wifey will be saying "how the f*ck am I supposed to cook this?" And she will be extra bitchy because she can't watch the IS version of Oprah. Did IS management think about this? All they have is a collection of unskilled psychopaths, good at praying, good at killing, scaling monkey bars, looking all cool in their balaclavas but probably not much else. Is that what these retards want, a stone age existence? One thing is universal, religious weirdos, no matter what book they follow, are so busy studying how to f*ck other peoples lives up, they never developed the skills necessary to actually get along and help in a society, even if it is a society of like minded weirdos. Point being, they will probably kill each other before anyone else has to.

The general rule is that Canadian soldiers/airmen/sailors are like any cross section of Canadian society. Not sure of the precise figure, but it hovers about 60,000 currently employed. People are modest as a general rule, so they are as well, I wouldn't be too quick to impart qualities beyond the average joey Canada. It's all case by case. The media, when it suits them likes to ignore that rule, and public often buy into it. In the 90's, before the great Afghan war, the media spin for those who remember, was to vilify anything DND....all fallout from the Somalia thingy. I recall articles about 'rapists' and "spousal abuse" most of it alleged, spun up as if they were rampant and part of the accepted culture. Then in 2002, 4 dudes got blown up by yanks, and out came the "hero' spin, the exact opposite, the CF and its members could do no wrong. The forces members were all of a sudden altruistic idealists, pure as driven snow, deserved of free coffee Timmies. It was the 'feel good' angle for about 7 years. Fortunately that is starting to whither away now as yesterdays trend. Both trends I found equally annoying, not a fan of pigeon holing you might say. And for the latter trend, I assure you there are as many in the forces that lap it up, and buy into it also, in an effort of self gratification, as there are who dismiss it for what it is. Anyone who went to Afghanistan got paid well, and knew what they were getting into, and the risks. But none of that detracts from the point- the guys who came back broken are in some cases getting screwed by the DND/Veterans Affairs/Government in a trifecta of incompetence and indifference.

That's the alternative-equally plausible from our perspective. I picked "from nothing" simply because it f*cks with our heads more.

My response above gives me an idea. Here we go, an experiment of sorts: Hey God you have 2 minutes to write "I exist" on the moon so it's visible from Earth.

1. 2. You mean that is the fundamental premise of ID. Perhaps. But I would argue the forces "arose" as there is no evidence (yet) they were "created." Splitting hairs on words, but in this thread saying the "C" word isn't cool unless you "believe" in it. When god scrawls "I created the forces" on the moon so it's visible from Earth, I will believe he(it) did it. If he can build electromagnetism from scratch he can sure as f*ck write a quick note on the moon.

From nothing! Here's my mathematical proof (it's BS but enjoy): A line, like this one, is made of individual points. A point is an infinitesimally small thing, it is a dimensionless object, yet they come together (an infinite number of them) to form a line. (check the net on what a 'point' is) Now with lines, I can make 2D and 3D objects a cube, a pyramid, cylinder, etc 3D objects out of nothing (points). Extend that argument to the physical universe-an awful lot of 'nothings' coming together to make something....hence the universe. I'm no mathematician, as any mathematician reading this will tell you-the error is that a point is not of zero dimension, but has a dimension that approaches zero, a kind of indefinite shrinking is the way I understand it. I guess the analogue of the abstract point in this idea to an actual thing in the physical universe would be a black hole, but I'm not a physicist either. Not idea how the forces of gravity, EM and strong/weak would arise...so physicists/cosmologists you still have a job tomorrow.

I understand original post sought 'details,' but I submit you won't find consistent answers from the proponents of IT. It generally boils down to the universe is a big lego set and everything in it is purposefully constructed to some degree...all macro objects live and innate are, to varying degrees, godfactured, as opposed to arising over time solely from the physical properties within our universe. It's fuel for the circular logic that helps them reconcile "nothing" in the framework of their existence and eventual demise. Which is fair, it used to give me nightmares when I was 3 and it still keeps me awake at night sometimes, and often pour another drink. It's easier to think some big friendly dude made it all, and death leads to an eternity of cookies and milk-no physics, math or having to try and count to infinity involved. Getting something from nothing requires a lot of squeezing!

My guess is the first trillionaire (by today's standards) will be the: Majority shareholder in the company that genetically modifies pigs, lettuce and tomatoes to survive a Martian night out doors. And the opens the first drive through on the colony....the tag line will be the "Best BLT in the Solar System" or, The person who patents a rapidly self replicating machine that feeds on CO2 and shits N/H/O2/O3, and can survive and reproduce on Venus. Think manufactured 'plant' with an attitude and pretty thick skin, and an adjustable life span. or The manufacturer of the surgically implanted mobile phone that encodes then transmits thoughts person to person....hands free. This would be available about the same time you could get a manufactured body to replace the old one....from what was formally the Scooter Store, only 2000 easy payments, with free shipping to Earth.

I'd go for a merger with the disunited states and Mexico-Canada + Washington + Oregon + California + Mexico. Call it what you want Canexfornica, Maxiston, etc/...online contest for the "flag" it would fly....winner gets $100. Benefits include:cheap resources meets cheap labor along the duty free axis and as a 'nation' we could make all sorts of useless crap to sell to the remaining states. We get all the weed, weather and wine-all revenue sources. Both types of fruits! Under the right management it would be economic powerhouse. If I was the CEO-I'd subcontract governance of this new nation out to the Swedes, or Germans. Subcontract defense out to the UK. The likes of MGM would become crown corporations-big screen hits to come "Beachcombers II-Relics Revenge" Trade Wars would be a reality TV show and feature BC bud against Acapulco gold. There would be no official language-market economics would drive that decision. But health, education and housing would be rights in the charter and with the tax revenues flowing in, quite doable as national benefits

This topic really pisses me off! It's truly an attack from the army ignorance on what should be untouchable. The solution to this lies in legislation. It should be law that any government funded research should be posted on-line real time. Posted to a database managed by an agency external to all those that conduct or fund the research. Everything from the methodology to the raw data collected should be available as it's recorded (including errors)...to anyone, not just the Canadian public. This allows for peer review, avoids political interference and will lead to better science and ensures politicians (the personification of everything un-sciency) and their army of martinets don't meddle with it. The cost is there whether it's all "secret" or not. I know some of you won't understand that. "It's my science, I paid for it, so I'm taking it home, so there," kinda thing...I get it, but I don't...it don't work that way. We aren't making better mascara, or having a focus group on what Dorito flavor is the best, it's sh*t like ....will our atmosphere boil away in a few years, stuff we should probably get right and share with the rest to check our work. Science at its essence relies on complete disclosure, peer review and encourages replication/confirmation of experimental findings. This 'real time' publication of results should be an international convention. But hey, I don't expect that to be idea pushed ahead by any of the short sighted retards who tend to gravitate to politics of any party in any nation, let alone this one. If they operate on a platform supported by BS, then science isn't likely their subject of choice.