Army Guy

Your right i did volunteer, and while you were hiding in moms basement or in the tree in the backyard, many like me were over helping others that could not help themselves....i know that is despicable... and reprehensible to guys like you , because you can not fathom a world that does not have you in the center of it...it's OK .....what we did over there was for all Canadians, including the little dudes just like you eyeball.....thanks for your tax dollars, they were well spent.... Way to go eyeball, you were paying attention to all those stories.....but you have nothing to worry about, it's not you that lives with those nightmares is it....it's those soldiers that you hate so much....you know the ones that can't get the help they need....don't worry they are still getting bent over the table by our government, In your mind we are responsible for everything that happened in the conflict, like we did not have enough to worry about like surviving the next day, or wondering how many of your friends or comrades were going to die that day..... Your right there were some soldiers that did nothing....and they're were soldiers that did do something...it was a soldier that reported it to the media, it was soldiers that took matters into their own hands and assaulted a police station, arresting then later ordered to release those that were known for those activities....never read that in the papers did ya....maybe if the media left the camp....there are lots of things that never made the media...but who cares, your concern is not with our soldiers .....it is with yourself and your own disability to be so selfish....If it was not for guys like us eyeball you would not have anything to complain about ....except that damn squirrel that keeps steeling your nuts....what ever helps you sleep at night....

I read everything you said, that because they were not conscripted they do not rate any of your concern. but they also do not qualify for care under the same benefits as regular Canadians do, such as work mans comp, or even provincial health care until the prescribe time has elapsed.....

Well it seems i can't call you an idiot or for that matter any other name, we have rules and we can not be calling member names.....at least according to my number one fan... not sure of your last nationality but here in Canada the things you suggest our military of being capable of would be like saying the leafs are capable of winning this years Cup...plausible but very unlikely.....

Been reading scary stories under your bed again.....When has our nations military posed a threat to the Canadian people.....drum role please.....never... Perhaps you can provide a source that would explain all of these fears you have about our military...

Your interesting fact is only partly correct .......your 100 % correct in stating that our military along with RCMP and all other governmental depts does not work directly for the people of Canada, .....most come under command of the PM with exception of DND, it works directly for the Governor General technical.....this is a safe guard built in to the system so if the elected government would ever declare the Canadian people an enemy it could not order our military to take action on the Canadian people with out royal assent..........it would need direct approval via the crown ( Queen)or Governor General....* note that this has never happened, and the crown has never override the PM orders to date. Sorry but there is no conspiracy theory here......maybe they did not have that on your citizens test did they Mini eyeball.... Perhaps eyeballs little brother can tell us when the last time the Crown has issued orders that the PM disagreed with....wait a minute Never....and while the Militaries boss is the Governor General they( military) have always followed commands issued by the PM, With one exception during the Cuban missile crisis Canadian Navy dismissed orders from the PM , and instead maintained the block aid around the Island of Cuba..... you can look that up in goggle if you'd like.....

Not sure what caused all this anger towards the military, maybe some army guy stole your girl friend, or maybe your boy friend never know these days, and all that experience has left a bad taste in your month..... It must piss you right off that a soldier forced to retire because of being medical or mentally released, still leave you in the dust when it comes to being the best person for the job....man that has got to hurt, getting your boy friend stolen then losing a job to a military girl that was a much better candidate than you....what did you say you studied again, assistance manger at McDonald's.

So what your saying is all public servants should be conscripted , in order to get your attention, in other words what your saying is unless conscripted, we the public service can go pound salt....people like military, police, fire fighters, well you know the list.....we are not worth the shit on your boots....and yet our employer seems to agree with you. that they are free to use it's citizens for any purpose at all , and when they are no longer able to be useful they are discarded, with no compensation.....how does that work in your world Eyeballs, can you do that legally....are are employees protected....i wonder did they get conscripted, why are you able to plug into benefits and yet military persons not..... See here is the thing eyeballs, our government is elected by the Canadian people, we have also excepted that we will accept those election results and work with them....that means you and me....Now if you don't like the elected government then you can use your freedoms given to you by the government to voice your disconcern...raise enough concern and you will gain support for your cause.....or you can sit in your lofty tree, complaining and whining that you really never ever took up a cause, instead your content to let others do the dirty work for you....

but to do and die.....I get it....i have written my MP already several times....they do respond, but nothing concrete.....but perhaps enough of us will complain and something will get done....one can always hope....

your right we were cast aside because we did not rate ....it pissed a lot of soldiers off when Omar khadr thing was going on.....how a terrorist was going to be treated better by our government than our very own soldiers....His family was well looked after.....while our soldiers had to beg for medical help....our VAC treating us like beggars in the streets....offering ridiculously low pay outs....I remember one of my comrades , who had been blown up by a IED on a donkey, and lost his testicle, it had been removed by a piece of donkey bone.....the VAC offered him 1200.00 because some bean counter had said that is what one testy is worth....he redress it.....resubmitted it for a another review....on the second review they offered him 1600.00 that was their final offer.....( review panels are made up of various members of the Vac staff, and a medical officer, it is set up like a court proceeding , a lawyer is present, you and your lawyer is present....the entire time no one has a clue what it is like to serve or be in combat.....kind of hard to explain to them what it is like when they have no clue.....It was never the same review board they only sat for that one day....never to come back.... If you got them in the morning it was pay day sort of ...late in the afternoon, it was nothing but head bobing and yawns).....he told the review panel to stick their 1600 up their asses....of course they phone our commanding officer to complain he then charged him with behavior unbecoming a soldier, they charged him 800. 00....so today he lives with that constant memory and pain of having gone to afghanistan 4 times and paid the government for the honor of getting one of his nuts blown off for 800.00 dollars. and while all this was going on their was talk of our government going to pay out omar a huge multi million dollar pay out....for being on the other side....all of this was pumped over seas for our viewing pleasure....kind of hard to keep moral up when our own citizens are demanding huge pay outs for terrorists, and nothing for our own troops.... I can remember the running dark humoured joke at the time was to ask around camp how we could get a job working for the taliban because they paid more....the Canadian government paid out more....or when the politicians would have a dog and pony show, and a soldier would ask when are we getting new equipment ....and the politicians would come back with there is no more funding for that....(That was code for not enough soldiers have died yet).and wonder why they would get heckled there is no more money because your paying out terrorist, or giving it out to Canada's number one family the Khadrs.....ya those guys were very popular with our troops.....

Our Afghanistan mission described by our US allieds.....sobering if you think about it, our soldiers giving everything we had while our government collected all the praise, and political points it needed without spending a dime more than they had to....., while Canada and it's government starved us for troops and equipment.....both major political parties did this.....not just the liberals....i mean the liberals we expected it...the Cons well they broke what little trust i had in our political system, i never seen it coming, but just like the liberals they bent us over the table....and smacked our asses like a bad porno..... https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2012/06/22/us_military_thought_canadian_efforts_fell_short_in_kandahar.html

This is not a new problem, it dates back as far as i can remember, they fact that our soldiers are caught in the middle between the Military and minister, and the VAC and it's minister is telling....and this has made headlines over and over again.....But it still has not left a mark on it's citizens....another telling point on where our Military stands with everyone.....Stories like being losing homes, going bankrupt......or not receiving any compensation for any wounds received while on duty....a fact now that 75% of those released from the military have not identified with any wounds.....How can that be ?..... OK i get it, our members are not very popular amoung'st the rest of the citizens, that we don't place very high on the priority list of things to do.....i also get it that their voice is not heard in the great scheme of things....So who are these people, they are Canadian citizens like you and me, they are our sons and daughters, they come in all races, colors, creeds, and religions, they are the people that we have gone to school with, shared a beer with, we have even called them best friends. They have paid taxes, and still do,....what makes them different is they signed the dotted line to serve our government , our nation what ever that entails, night or day they answer a higher calling, so that we as ordinary citizens can rest assured we are under they protection night and day....and for this service....they ask you for nothing except to have their back.....to which we say...ya, ya....and slap them in the face with this..... Losing there homes..... suffering with mental and physical wounds suffered while on duty for us....what is sad, is we are good with that......we are not embarrassed, we do not hang our head in shame.....we read about their plight and move on to the next story........maybe we should take 5 minutes write our MP a small paragraph about why this is wrong.....one day this may be our sons and daughters we are talking about....we need to make this right....we need to tell our government Hey listen to us....

This time it is not the military generals but the National Post taking a swipe at the liberal government......and of course Canadians....And here i thought it was just me.....i guess not.... http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/national-post-view-the-liberals-should-put-the-militarys-need-ahead-of-short-term-political-oh-who-are-we-kidding

Until the entire world gets this wrapped around their minds , nothing is going to stop climate change....and if we think that a Canadian carbon tax will start or stop anything that is sad really......

Well said Rue......Why do we continually need to tax ourselves more for the bad choices of others...a 20 % tax on sugar products because we have an obesity problem, last time i checked obesity was a choice put to much in without the effort to burn it off and poof your a fat bastard....some have said WOW 10 bil the first year, is what we could earn.....is the tax just a way to put money into the governments coffers...or is it to tackle the issue of obesity....which as far as i can tell has not even been mentioned..... we live in a nation where eating healthy cost a lot more than it does to eat junk....who created that nightmare....can it be reversed by our government, and when taxing junk puts basic food out of reach of lower income earners what then.....what do we force them to eat then....and what if they don't get skinney, do we start rounding them up, give them to the military as big soft bouncing targets....do we let the police take care of them, arrest them for being to round, send them to new Federal Fat camps prison, to work off there big bouncing bodies.... where does it stop, do we have to tax all behavior that we don't like....like bad children, so now we pay a bad child tax, disco music, so now we all pay a disco tax, a bad liberal idea , so now we pay a bad liberal tax..... When did we feel the need to take away freedoms and choices in order to pad the governments coffers...

There is a an paved airstrip in yellowknife with military air force presence, meaning refueling assets etc....along with other airstrips in the north that can be used year round and could be used as FOB's for jet aircraft. CFS Alert is one, there are others.

Yes it would but there are plenty of situations when stealth is not the prime consideration.

My source takes it's data from DND, not the US navy.....and is is for the A and B model....the ones currently serving.... yours are for C, D, E, F..... One question yours also includes the use of 3 drop tanks.....the F-35 is clean, only internal fuel, is your going to compare then please do apples with apples.... because the F-35 is capable of also using drop tanks as well to increase it's stats.... http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-to-double-attack-range-of-f-35-stealth-fighter-1001068513

Are you saying that the super hornet has more range than the F-35...because that is not what both companies are advertising, nor is the Canadian airforce stats for it's aircraft.... CF-18 stats are is 330 km on a combat radius, and a 3330 km ferry range no wpns F-35 stats are 1407 km combat radius air to air config and 1158 kms for interdiction mission.....with a ferry range of 2220 km on internal fuel no wpns.... Note that these numbers would increase if the added external fuel tanks.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_CF-18_Hornet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II You mention the twin engine safety model, one that at one time was true and played a role in our choice of the F-18, however safety ratings on single engine aircraft have improved dramatically to the point they are better or on par with twin engine safety records....Having multi engines does not mean your that much safer over the artic...infact many multi engine aircraft have met their fate in the arctic, including aircraft with 4 engines.....

How does all of that justify a Canadian citizen to take up arms , and fight again'st the coalition that Canada was a part of.....point of order that this coalition was formed and authorized by the UN

Did he swear to an oath.....or does that mean nothing, did he sign said oath.....

We already debunked this article in another post but nice try.....Still waiting on your answer to my question.....above ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force NATO took the lead of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan on 11 August 2003. Mandated by the United Nations, ISAF’s primary objective was to enable the Afghan government to provide effective security across the country and develop new Afghan security forces to ensure Afghanistan would never again become a safe haven for terrorists. From 2011, responsibility for security was gradually transitioned to Afghan forces, which took the lead for security operations across the country by summer 2013. The transition process was completed and Afghan forces assumed full security responsibility at the end of 2014, when the ISAF mission was completed. A new, smaller non-combat mission (“Resolute Support”) was launched on 1 January 2015 to provide further training, advice and assistance to the Afghan security forces and institutions http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_69366.htm

It's OK Moonlight , i don't want you defending our military either, you might get a rash, or be confused with some one that gives a shit....

Yes , yes i can.....So i'll ask you again....Is there a nation out there that has brought any evidence to the inter national courts.....or the UN that has resulted in any charges being laid again'st any nation that took part............Has there been any group come forward, with proof....and individual bring proof to the courts/ UN.....You seem to have all the answers why do you not bring all this proof you have to the courts.....Just asking because i'm being flippant..... I know i am a monster in your eyes for taking part in an illegal conflict, .....But wait a min...i was part of the ISAF mission , which was sanctioned by the UN, in fact they created the entire program....So the answer to how many did i lose in the illegal conflict ....none.....

So being young is now an excuse, .... It does show that he was serious about becoming Canadian, when he buys a plane ticket to Afghanistan to fight Canadians OHHH YAAA, bring it on baby........nothing shows loyalty more for your new country than gunning down a few Canadian soldiers, and coming back to suck on the Canadian teat for the rest of his life....life is good.....I'm sure he will be a marvelous addition to the liberal terrorism training cell.....I think i'm going to cry.....wait a minute.....i am having a moment of clarity.....I'll put this douche bag on the flight , no questions asked, in fact i'll escort him the entire trip......He was a terrorist.....end of story.....But that does not matter.....i wonder if it matter to Canadian civilians that had their heads cut off by other other muslim terrorist, who's only crime was being a Canadian, think they got any compassion, think they screamed any less when it was done slowly to induce maximum pain....Some say that is between him and his maker....true enough but that does not mean i have to like it.... Canada will not deport any criminals back to any muslim country due to lack of human rights violations....nor will we ship him out to face charges in muslim countries for the same reason....People don't last long in afghan prisons, or for that matter any muslim prison....because they are the kind and friendly type of prisons........Liberals don't want that on their minds when they go to sleep.....

You mean like we do for native americans......