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do tell of all these decapitations, stoning and cliff throwings as opposed to hangings. do you have numbers to support your b.s.?

ahmadinejad is an idiot and his denial of the holocaust should be scorned and condemned. also, his comment about israel being fake country is quite stupid, since, well the country of israel exists. at the same time, many including me agree, that the holocaust has been used to extort sympathy and to excuse and justify atrocious actions by israel. the zionist ideology is a problem since it justifies human rights violations in order to achieve its goals.

? do you have anything to say about your team's embracing of a terrorist group and israel's sponsorship of terrorism?

symbiotic fanaticism: giuliani says U.S.-designated terror group MEK--which has killed americans, celebrated 9/11, holds own members hostage, and plotted with '93 WTC bomber ramzi yousef to bomb iranian mosque--should be Time's "person of the year" because they're working with mossad to kill iranian nuclear scientists.

that's b.s. because israel has repeatedly offered all iranian jews major incentives to move to israel but they chose not to. many wealthy iranians left iran after the revolution and during the iran/iraq war.

here is another example of hypocrisy and double standards. of course, there is israel's nuclear weapons program, which seems to be above criticism. that aside, report after report is confirming that israel is sponsoring a terrorist group to commit terrorism inside iran. what's astonishing are right wing groups, both in the u.s. and canada who are now openly showing their support for the terrorist group, MEK. An editorial in Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post said on Friday that the MEK deserves a Nobel Peace Prize: Let’s be frank: Were the MeK to play the critical role in derailing an Iranian bomb, it would be far more deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize than a certain president of the United States we could mention. And Commentary’s Jonathan Tobin justified the MEK’s action and Israel’s alleged role in financing, arming and training the group: To those who say it is immoral to use those who have employed terrorism, the only reply can be that it would be far worse for Israel’s government to allow such scruples to prevent them from carrying out actions that might stop the Iranians from going nuclear. Noticeably, the MEK’s defenders chose not to address the NBC report’s other major disclosure. The MEK reportedly worked with Ramzi Yousef, the terrorist behind the first attack on the World Trade Center, to bomb an Iranian shrine, killing at least 26 people. link gotta love it. guiliani, mr. 911, is also praising a terrorist group who was behind the first attack on the WTC.

you sure are a man of integrity bill. did you know that she was talking about 9 million canadian voters? *edit* someone posted the video. have a look. it starts from 2:55 the howling and screaming from people who are so consumed with team cheering is an interesting look at what's wrong with the political atmosphere. imagine if a conservative had made an error in a speech. would wild bill be writing a long paragraph asking them to 'resign in shame!' ?

good thread

the arabs in israel are better off than iranians in iran. what's your point? the government in iran is pretty shitty. no kidding. the picture that you try to paint is that the iranian government is somehow against jews and they want to ethnically cleanse the earth from jews and that's why we should attack iran. the problem that you have is that the iranian government has not shown any aggression towards jews. their beef is with the government of israel and u.s. so what? we all know there is discrimination in iran towards many different groups and their dislike for freedom of speech. what does that have anything to do with your chicken little cries about the iranian government wanting to kill jews around the world?

bush? cheney? wolfowitz? rumsfeld? feith? scooter libby? bolton? elliot abrams? woolsey? richard perle? which one of these guys have children serving in the military?

that to me sounds like he doesn't accept the state of israel. i have yet to see anything from him or ahmadinejad calling for the genocide of jewish people. ? can you for once surprise me and not go into your turrets mode? "your beloved terrorist.. blah blah blah.." stfu already.

hello? regime? yes. the zionist regime should be removed just like the khamenei regime should be removed. this should be done by their own people.

so peeves, why haven't you change the title of this thread? the ayatollah didn't say israel could be wiped in 9 minutes. you're refusing to correct something that you know is false. isn't knowingly spreading misinformation against forum rules?

he's obviously wrong as according to the video YOU posted and as according to more facts about iranian jews. anyone with opposing views to the regime has to keep a low profile. it's not a jew thing. if the government had something against jewish people, then the jews would have left iran like they could have all this time. especially with the incentive that israel has offered them. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/13/iran.israel Iran's Jews have given the country a loyalty pledge in the face of cash offers aimed at encouraging them to move to Israel, the arch-enemy of its Islamic rulers. The incentives - ranging from £5,000 a person to £30,000 for families - were offered from a special fund established by wealthy expatriate Jews in an effort to prompt a mass migration to Israel among Iran's 25,000-strong Jewish community. The offers were made with Israel's official blessing and were additional to the usual state packages it provides to Jews emigrating from the diaspora. However, the Society of Iranian Jews dismissed them as "immature political enticements" and said their national identity was not for sale. "The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradable for any amount of money," the society said in a statement. "Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran's Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews." The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv reported that the incentives had been doubled after offers of £2,500 a head failed to attract any Iranian Jews to leave for Israel. Iran's sole Jewish MP, Morris Motamed, said the offers were insulting and put the country's Jews under pressure to prove their loyalty. "It suggests the Iranian Jew can be encouraged to emigrate by money," he said. "Iran's Jews have always been free to emigrate and three-quarters of them did so after the revolution but 70% of those went to America, not Israel."

so why is no one saying anything about the lie the OP has put up as the topic? there is plenty of crappy things the iranian government could be called on, but the desperate attempt by people like peeves to try to make it look like that the iranian government is out to kill jews is pure fantasy. this is not the first time that peeves has posted misinformation in order to do his part to beat on the war drums. i can't think of many worst things than those who advocate for wars and use lies and deceit while doing it.

agree with what? did you even watch the video? wow. the video proves the opposite of what he says. the video shows that the jews in iran are not persecuted based on their religion.

i don't believe you. because what you say about iran and its views on jews is false. fact remains that there are over 25,000 jews in iran and even though they've had a chance to migrate to israel, they haven't. despite all the incentives that israel would have given them. fact remains that there is a jewish representative in the iranian parliament. fact remains that the jews in iran are free to practice their faith. fact remains that your statement: all in virulent hatred for israel and specifically Jews is nothing but misinformation.

that web site has NO homepage and the article is from 2001. we don't even know who wrote that article and how true it is. you are truly desperate. maybe the mossad and cia will use your links to try to justify an attack!

buddy. the ayatollah didn't say it. some other idiot wrote it on a site that supposedly has ties to the ayatollah. wasn't it you who posted an article from 2001 from some site that doesn't even have a homepage? is this how desperate you are to sell b.s.?

why not? he was Top-tier on Most Corrupt Member of Congress list 2 years running it sticks just fine.

so is peeves going to change the topic of this thread since the ayatollah never made a comment about wiping israel in 9 minutes? i mean wtf? peeves posts lies over and over again.

guess who has the second highest population of jews in the middle east? guess which capital city has over 20 synagogues and a jewish representative in the government? reality is different than the chicken little scenario the zionists try to pitch.

iran's ayatollah doesn't say such a thing. why are you posting lies?

any time the UN or the EU or anyone for that matter, criticize israel, the zionist crowd repeats the predictable comments such as "the UN is anti-israel". however, they're quick to change their stance on the UN when UN's actions works in favour of their narrative.

i agree with most of what you say about the other three but disagree with your description of santorum. he's just another salesman who has little integrity. unless you can imagine your co-workers or neighbours making millions from lobby groups, then he has you fooled. most of his earnings after he lost his seat came from lobby/special interest groups. he's right up there with newt as the ultimate 'washington insider'. link Shaping legislation to serve his corporate donors' interests helped fill Santorum's campaign coffers as a member of Congress. Selling his access and influence as a former member of Congress, while staying just this side of the law, has paid well for Santorum. The New York Times noted that, like Gingrich, Santorum has become a multimillionaire by peddling his influence to big corporations. Don't let the sweater vests and coal-miner's-grandson routine fool you. Santorum pocketed $6 million in six years, based on his Washington insider status, according to a Bloomberg article oh and Rick Santorum: Top-tier on Most Corrupt Member of Congress list 2 years running link